I mean how can you argue against a movie and "the internets"? It's air tight!

They made Cheney seem like a moderate. That is an incredible accomplishment in the history of politics.

Holy. Shit.

That depth is deeper than the deepest hole.

holy crap.....what has happened to this country. What a bunch of nutjobs, thanks TFG.

Every clip I saw was worse than the one prior, that is a nice summary.

There was only one candidate on that stage that could complete a high school equivalency test and that was also the only one with any understanding of the magnitude of the job to which they are hope to be elected.

We are a non-serious country with far, far too many swept up in the movement lead by the orange ass clown.

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The Democrats in WY need to make sure there is a sane person as their Rep.

If they are going to elect people like that we may need to revoke their ability to have two Senators representing just over a half million people. The founding fathers did not intend for us to elect the dumbest people possible as Senators. Maybe we can get Roger Goodell to step in with a multi-year suspension.

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Obviously edited to make it appear horrific, but yeah, it ain't good.

I don't like Cheney's chances against Hageman and the rest of them are just making fools of themselves.

I'm hoping (but not expecting) that Papa Dick has some clout to turn this thing around in my home State by Aug 16.

I just watched her closing statement. It was fantastic.

Hopefully someone here will post that statement as it needs to be heard by the entire GOP. Sadly 99% of the GOP is too far gone at this point.

Not just some of the internets, all the internets.

Watch the debate for the sole Congressional Rep for WY in it's entirety. It's not much better.


Hageman goes full Hunter Biden in the first 40 secs of her opening statement.

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So much for it all to be about editing.

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That nutter is the front runner???

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That nutter is the front runner???

Hageman? Yep. And fully endorsed by the tiny handed Cheeto.

She's clearly had some brain damage (the same that afflicted most of the GOP) since 2016 when she referred to him as the "weakest candidate" and "somebody who is racist and xenophobic."

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Dang it. The blonde woman between Cheney and Hageman is Belinsky. I was so hoping that her name was Lewinski because I was going to say that she blew it.

It is this shit that that making me a believer in EricMPro, these people are just blind idiot followers with an invisible hand guiding them down the stupid drain.

Wyoming is a beautiful state with a lot of great people, and an unreasonable number of idiots. Their schools are funding by fossil fuels, mostly coal, which is basically a dead industry and not helping the education system, they will be much worse off in 10 years.

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Ok, this is where I say I'm tired and tired and tired of allowing deplorable people to cry and moan about being called deplorable. We need to call the childish horseshit what it is. Stop pandering to this childish horseshit.

If I were in that debate I would have said "sorry honey, but Sunday school and OANN doesn't make you qualified to represent Wyoming".

I think these kind of people are rampant, nation wide, it just so happens that Wyoming has so few people that these quacks can make their way through the system.

Let's all be glad they only get one seat...

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You know Cheney was dying to just tell all of them to go to hell. I watched around an hour of it as I was working today. That was not a serious discussion among sane adults.

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Wow. That was painful. Most High school JV speech and debate kids would outperform these men and women. Sometimes I feel like there should be some sort of test people have to pass to be able to run for office. Mix in some math, history, civics, and common sense

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If there were some form of test based on these yahoos, the GOP would have a tough time fielding any candidates. Another case in point is Herschel Walker down in Georgia.

Missed that and had to delete my post. I'd say no fucking way Liz Cheney does not get the nomination but then MTG, Boebert, Gaetz and a few others are solid reminders that there are a lot of fuckwits.

Unless Cheney can find some remedy for her severe case of TDS, she will lose easily.

Walker behind in polls despite celebrity.

That is really hilarious. People who take issue with armed insurrection need to chillax, amirite? 😂

He's just suffering from CDS, or Constitutional Derangement Syndrome.

There are a few posters on here that I feel so sorry for regarding their denial problems. But if they are happy, that's what is important, right?

Thank you for offering a case in point immediately after my post.

The twitter description says it all:


"This wasn't SNL on a Thursday night.

This was Wyoming's Republican primary debate."

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I think 90% of the routine posters on this site could have done a better job in this debate with 10 minutes prep work than these folks did. Honestly, what are they smoking in Wyoming if they think any of these candidates are better than Cheney? I'm no fan of hers, but her defense of her constitutional duty has been top notch.

I don’t think you know what the word “derangement” means if you think it is associated with Cheney with regards to TFG.

Bless your heart. She understands her oath.

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My sarcasm meter is routinely inaccurate in the LR, but I think the thing to which you are referring used to be called a high school diploma.

That's the thing. The GOP is now full of people that don't give a crap about the Constitution. They don't even care about democracy, they call it a republic. Guess what? A republic can exist without democracy.

I have a cousin who posted how great it is that Herschel Walker was the GOP candidate for senate in Georgia, she was serious.These people are this crazy.

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So because Cheney isn't one of the (many, apparently) pieces of shit who still support the lead piece of shit Trump, she has TDS? She'd likely welcome that diagnosis.

I think the pendulum has swung the other way. TDS is now the best description for those who think that he is innocent and the best president ever, because only a deranged person would think that.

When you find yourself in a position where people can’t distinguish your posts from a propaganda bot, it’s time to reevaluate.

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I could be wrong, I don’t think I am, but that poster is trying to be a propaganda bot. “To trigger the libs.” One day people will just stop responding. Maybe. Hopefully.

See, this is why us moderate Republicans won’t vote for a Democrat. We keep getting called names. First, we are deplorables. Now, we are pieces of shit. If you would just stop with the attacks and run a centrist candidate, we’d consider a vote for a (D) or even an (R) based in the inner-Keiper belt reality. Instead, you are forcing us to vote for brain-dead candidates, who live their lives contrary to every moral we claim to hold dear. You’ve left us with no choice.

I think it would have been fun to be in that debate, but just keep ramping up the nuttery, you ask about Jan 6th oh yeah stolen election, bidden hunter laptop, podophiles eating babies in the backroom of a pizza joint. You ask about Ukraine, Biden hunter getting paid, lead the Russians to invade as they saw US president with the aid of his son taking over Ukraine. Vaccines, oh boy, tracking devices, devils tools, derived from abortions actually creating the virus.

Oh it could have been epic.

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That used to be my conversations with people around here. They love to talk about it. So I’d pepper them with questions to see how deep it would go. One of my old managers was off the charts delusional. Now, I can’t do it. It makes me sad thinking about it right now.

But then you would have to figure out what to do once you've won the election.

we have a recent case study in this from 2016-2020. As I recall, it didn't work so well.

The Democrats? Are you joking? Trump took Wyoming with about 70% of the vote. Dems aren’t winning Wyoming.

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I didn't realize until now that Wyoming only has a single Rep. So there's no urban vs. rural split.

And looking at the party enrollment numbers, 70% is weak performance.

196,170 registered GOP vs. 45,881 registered Democrats (source). A straight party-line vote would be about 80%. Possibly poor GOP turnout. Or maybe all the independents (of which there a good number) vote for Biden.

Not far over a 1/4 M total registered voters is hard to fathom for me as a Californian. I think my *neighorhood* has more registered voters than that.

And yet they get two Senators. Good system.

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Yes. The Democrats. As in every last one voting for Cheney. (Holy shit I can't believe I said that).

But keep it quiet. Because the nutters, I mean the fine members of the GOP in Wyoming will turn against her even more if they find out.

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She’s going to lose. And she’s going to lose bigly. Have you even read you’re own signature? You’re country is fucked. That’s not hyperbole.

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We aren't so far behind. Really we are just slightly higher up in the vortex that's quickly circling the toilet.

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This is ground zero for the RINO vs ROGO or FROGO battles to come.

Maurice

Rogo?

Frogo?

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ROGO

Republicans on glue often, a “soft” ROGO is a republican on glue occasionally.

FROGO is fake republican on glue often/occasionally….like Trump, don jr, Rudy, linden, Sydney Powell etc are FROGO’s.

I thought these terms were a common rebuttal down there against being called a RINO????

I heard it on Twitter/social media months ago and thought it was amusing.

Maurice

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This debate really was filled with a bunch of arm-pit farters and then there was Liz Cheney, the only serious person up there.

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I am not familiar, when you say, 'on glue', do you mean like glue sniffing? Or, something else?

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She is going to lose.
Maybe not.
She won the roadside sign count that I just conducted. I am pleased to report that no Trump signs were seen.
She could still run as an independent in Nov.
The apocalypse is not upon us yet.

There's a guy down the road from us whom I only know of because he tried to cheat my wife's brother (veterinarian) on a cattle deal. He's had Trump signs up on his property entrance gate since I moved down there in October 2020. One of those was a post-election sign from the Trump org. that read "He won and we know it!".

I noticed this week his Trump signs are all gone. I don't know if this was his own doing or if someone got tired of looking at it, but it's not the kind of neighborhood where people are inclined to mess with other people's property, so I'm guessing he took them down.

Maybe the tide is starting to turn? We can hope.

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By roadside do you mean on peoples private property or on public property?

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 There was a National forest for a good bit and there were no signs of any campaign support there. My guess would be private ownership was where signs were seen. Why do you ask?

I don't know how it works down there but here any candidate can put up signs on public property. So having the most signs doesn't mean anything. However, having the most signs on private properties does mean something.

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Maybe the tide is turning. I'll take anything to support that sentiment.

On one of my bike routes there has been a house with a Trump sign with Duct tape over Pence's name since the election. I noticed yesterday that it's gone. One of my MAGA FB, "friends" has been posting a lot of stuff about Desantis lately.

Hmmmm....

https://forum.slowtwitch.com/...eSantis%3F_P7766746/

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I was in Minnesota for about a month working a hail storm. Quite a few people there would make the comment that they really liked Desantis when they discovered that I am from Florida either after seeing my tag, my area code or my beautifully tanned body.

They desantis? Can you clarify?

Yes, they desantis. It is a dance move where you constantly move to the right.

j/k - I had typed something, changed it but forgot to correct the wording.

They commented that they really liked Desantis.

I thought perhaps Desantis suddenly went woke and wanted to use they as a gender neutral pronoun

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I feel like I have started seeing less and less Trump signs as well. However there is one relatively new one handing from a person’s apartment balcony that I see every day I ride to work. It says “Trump Won. Democrats Cheat”

While the sign itself isn’t really out of place in these parts. There are two things that made me laugh each time I see it. (1) right next to it is a sign that says ‘turn off the news and love your neighbor’ and (2) the apartment complex is a HUD low-income, rent assistance housing complex. This is a program that Trump tried ro make cuts to every year he was in office. In his last year in office I think he was looking at cutting the HUf budget by $9.6 billion. So if Trump had his way this guy and his family would be homeless and he wouldn’t have a nice balcony in which to hang his big-ass trump flag

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It’s being reported that Joe Rogan has declined offers to host him on his podcast, saying “I don’t want to help him.”

I hope that’s true. Rogan, given his reach, demographic and influence, is the exactly the kind of guy who can help turn the tide with very little personal or professional consequence.

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Given his history of guests, it’s a bit of a weird stand to take at this point, although he’s been relatively consistent about Trump. The reasoning is off to me. Also, I think his demographic has also shifted a bit. You can’t go from supporting Bernie to Desantis and expect to keep the same listeners.

This piece from the article has me a bit confused. Any idea who he may be talking about?
Rogan gave his candid impression about the former president, describing him as "such a polarizing figure that so many people felt like they could abandon their own ethics and morals and principles just to attack him and anybody who supports him because he is an existential threat to democracy itself."

Over the long weekend, I went for a motorcycle ride up into SE Wisconsin (Kenosha Co). Been a while since I was up that way, but I recall seeing all kinds of Trump signs/banners/flags. This time, I was quite pleasantly surprised to count only 2 - one was a ~3'x5' generic sign, and the other was a Trump 2024 flag with "Take America Back Again" on it (TABA?). Seems like sort of a 'shoot yourself in the foot' kind of slogan, given 1/6 and the exponentially growing pile of evidence against the bloated POS.

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I think it would be naive to think anything has changed. The only place these people went is back into hiding. Those signs will be back up if Trump gets through unscathed and runs again. Total exoneration.

I wonder which one was jharris' place.

Sadly, I think that you are right. Those signs will come back out if he announces another run.

There is a local hardware place nearby that has Trump 2024 signs along his fence. He used to have Impeach Biden and a number of other signs and placards. I have been debating on whether or not to quit doing business with them since they support trump after Jan 6.

Well that certainly got under his onion skin-thin orange peel. Hard to know if this is real or satire, the line is all but invisible to me lately.

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That's satire. This is real.

Dang, she missed a great opportunity to plug none of that would have been possible if Jesus was aborted. I picture her sitting down with her book of Mad Words and throwing darts at trigger words to fill in the blanks. Great strategy, apparently.

Pretty sure it's not real but with Marge one never can tell reality from bat shit crazy.

The return trip allowed for a more thorough yet still meaningless analysis. I saw more pronghorns than all campaign signs. I saw more cattle than houses and people combined. All of the "Cheney for Wyoming" signs I did see were all within the city limits of Laramie on front lawns. Laramie is home to the University of Wyoming. I saw only one competitor's sign. It was along the interstate highway just outside of Cheyenne, it was a full billboard Dump Cheney sign by Hagemen that included reference to being paid for by a PAC with Trump strings.

I attended the Saratoga, Wy 4 July parade and the only politics on display there was for all of the local candidates. It seems the locals there don't even know or care of this coming federal election.

I assume that you drove through Centennial to Saratoga? How does that area look after the fire 2 years ago?

My wife and I drove through there and she fell in love with it. It saddened us to learn that it had been hit by the fire.

The fire was south of there. Nothing along 130 was affected as I recall. (I was through there last year).

Thanks. That's good, well for that area at least.

yes ,it is as 307 reports. I saw no evidence of recent fire damage along rt 130. It does look like the pine trees are suffering disease though. Next time through you should stop in Encampment, another very small once mining town and farm village of original homesteaders, and visit the town's museum. It is staffed with local youth who provide a guided tour through it. For a small town their not so little museum of assorted buildings is quite impressive.

Thank you for the suggestion. I will remember that for the next time I am in that area. It looks like it would make for a fun side trip.

Voting turnout seemed to be quite good this morning. Hoping for an unlikely comeback win for Cheney.

It wouldn't completely shock me to see Cheney do well based on what I see locally. Unfortunately, I think the more rural areas of the state will be heavily weighted Trump/Hageman.

Predicting Trump/Hageman but holding out hope for Cheney.

I'm in a really weird state rooting for a Cheney.

But I would bet she loses at least 60/40

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She's going to get crushed.

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Each time an anti-Trump GOP candidate loses big it illustrates over and over how misguided Republicans are in thinking Trump doesn't still own the GOP. They are going to have to do something to take back the party. It isn't just automagically going to happen on its own.

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I'm beginning to think that we are much more fucked than I thought.

I believe that they are praying, very quietly, that the criminal Justice system takes him down. All the wanna-be Presidents would love that, but all of them will run for office on the “Trump was railroaded/political prisoner” crap for years to come. Some would run for President with “I’ll pardon Trump” as a campaign promise. Maybe they all would. I see that as a “Raise your hand if…” question in a primary debate and anyone who wouldn’t pardon him is doomed.

You are probably correct. Sadly, had they done the right thing and convicted him on either of his impeachments, there would have been some short term blowback but his influence would decline and the base would come back. It's not like they're going to vote for Democrats.