Congrats! What is your quit plan?

having used nicotine replacement therapy in the past, i don't believe it to be effective. i need to get the crap out of my system, not just change the delivery method.

the plan is cold turkey, keeping busy, determination and support - tanker and i are doing this together. we're both sick of it, we've talked about why we have reverted to smoking in the past, and we're going to try to keep in mind that anger is the addiction talking, not us actually wanting to kill each other ;) we've also discussed that the words "i want a smoke" are strictly off-limits!

i am MUCH stronger mentally than i was the last time i quit (2004), and i will be focusing on the positives: how far i have made it without a smoke at the time of a craving, how much better i will feel once i have conquered the habit, the money we will save, even little things like having a nice clean car and never having to clean up a spilled ashtray..

cheers!

-mistress k

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That's awesome. Even if you weren't successful in the past, it always teaches you something about what needs to be done differently now. If you need any help/advice, I am an addictions counsellor so ask away!

thanks, i really appreciate that! i've fallen into the "just one" trap in the past, but i'm trying to keep it solidly in my mind that it isn't ONE cigarette, it's starting the whole withdrawal process over again. noone would ever think it's ok to give a junkie "just one" more hit of heroin, and i have to treat smokes the same way.

fortunately, since i don't drink anymore, one of my main triggers is gone. i will have to be vigilant of stress and anger getting the better of me, but my plan is to use diversions - go for a short walk, deep breaths, do some jumping jacks, belt out some stupid song, whatever it takes! sooner or later the cravings will fade..

cheers!

-mistress k

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EXCELLENT!

I look forward to your insane FB posts in the near future ;-)

Just kidding, I know you can do it!

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thanks! i can virtually guarantee at least a few laughable status updates, though i make no promises about them being coherent..

i just hope none of my clients drop in unexpectedly while i'm drowning out a craving by hollering the oscar meyer weiner song in my office!

cheers!

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good on ya!!!!

say hello to my little friend "obesity".

say hello to my little friends called "calorie tracking" and "healthy eating" - 2 habits i'm NOT quitting.

my first day as a non-smoker will actually be 2 years less 1 day after the first workout and changes in nutritional intake that led to me dropping 30lbs :)

cheers!

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Ignore Damien, you are going to do awesome. I used to smoke and look back on that time in my life as a huge waste. I don't have a lot of regrets but that was a big one. I hope it goes easy for you, but if it doesn't, use the womens for support. We are here for you!

but still, you might wanna say "hello". Don't get caught off guard when the weight starts creeping up and to keep it down, you training performance suffers due to poor nutrition cycle etc.

be careful. I wish you well, though. I was once a smoker, worse than you. Kicked the muthafucking habit in the butt and the face, but it left me fat.

thanks for that trailbait! :)

damien, with twice-daily weigh-ins (morning weight logged daily with trend line), weekly measurements, and rather carefully calculated calorie intake (based on BMR, TDEE and calories burned per HRM plus minor adjustments for current trend), i think it's safe to say i'm on top of it. i do know to expect that my metabolism will slow a bit without the constant stimulant but i've never turned to snacking to deal with cravings when i have quit in the past. i hold out hope that not ingesting poison daily will lead to better recovery and increased training capacity, which would carry dual benefits of burning more calories and increasing performance!

cheers!

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Good for you! I quit 13 or 14 years ago and it was a bitch but totally worth it. I tried many many times but for some reason this one stuck.

What worked for me was changing the environment whenever I craving would hit. Get up and walk around, leave the room, whever it takes. And stay away from booze and bars!!!

If you need any help, encouragement, harassment let me know! I've been there!

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"In order to keep a true perspective on one's importance, everyone should have a dog that worships him and a cat that will ignore him." - Dereke Bruce

Just adding a post to offer my encouragement and support! You can do it!

Best of luck to you!!!!

If cold turkey doesn't work I have one word for you. Zyban. I used it and it worked like a charm.

How did day one go?

Sending you good vibes!

DON'T GIVE UP! It is worth it...

I quite smoking (maybe) 10 years ago. I do not know what the real trigger was. but I stopped cold turkey and it was very very easy for me actually. I stopped while my wife was still smoking and it did not bother me a bit.

do not know if it makes sense but: imagine all the money that went into smoke!!! so put that money you use to buy cigarettes now that you stop in a place/jar and see that money grows and go buy some nice stuff that you will actually use.

Fred.

thanks a bunch guys! :) especially nice to hear from those who have gone through it.

it's our typical saturday morning, which usually means a few smokes before we even roll out of bed. i've had a habit-based urge to light up about every 30 seconds since i woke up, but it hasn't gotten to a real craving yet. there's definitely a sense of something missing, but nothing aggro happening...kind of liberating, actually!

jen, no worries about bars - we seldom go to them anyway, and i don't drink except on special occasions. i do agree that change of scenery is a good tool, and one i plan to use!

M~, i've thought about zyban, but i've heard some interesting side effect stories - one friend of ours had psychotic episodes from it (sitting alone in his car screaming at himself at the top of his lungs), and others have had morphia-type dreams. i've also heard about something called chantix, but don't even know if it's available in canada. i'm really going to give this an honest shot on my own first, though, because i truly believe i'm done with it. just need to get that message through to the body and subconscious now!

fred, the money is going to help pay some credit cards whose balances have crept up over the winter...which coincidentally will help reduce my stress level, and remove one more piece of the smoking trigger puzzle! i don't get to see a big jar with an ever-increasing amount of cash, but i'll get to sleep a little easier at night, which is even better :)

going to get out the door for a nice relaxing trail ride with tanker - it's a beautiful day, and while we're out on the bikes we can keep ourselves from "the bad thoughts", while getting some fresher air than we have in years!

really appreciate the support here - you guys rock!

cheers!

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One thing that set me off what anger that something had absolute control over my life. It pissed me off that I was scrounging around for change to buy my next pack. I hated feeling worried when I was down to less than 5 smokes.

I used the Nicotine patch to help with the physical cravings but the habit was really tough for me.

Think about putting the cash you would spend on a pack of smokes somewhere visible, like a jar, to remind you visually how much $$ you've spent over the years. Every time you think about buying another pack, put the cash in the jar. When you would normally buy one, put the cash in the jar. After a week or two, empty it, deposit it and start over. Sometimes a physical reminder really helps.

I'm crossing my fingers for you and Tanker!

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"In order to keep a true perspective on one's importance, everyone should have a dog that worships him and a cat that will ignore him." - Dereke Bruce

that cigarette would have tasted so good on that morning trail ride.

jen, we'd always buy our smokes for the week at once (thursday nights when i get paid), and pay debit - so the cash was never really visible. it's not really about the money, either - i totally agree with the anger over something i can't control, though!

damien, it wouldn't have tasted like much - i've had a head cold for the last few days, and have barely even noticed when i'm smoking (can hardly taste anything at all). what i DID notice was how much easier the 9% grade hill from the end of the trail to home was this afternoon after NOT smoking all day! :)

shutting everything down for earth hour, then going for a run..

cheers!

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just think after your cold is gone, the cigarette would be a treat. early morning smoke..mmm.

good work.

Ignore damien, he's an ass.

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when I saw this I was happy as I remember way back reading one of your race reports and you mentioned IN A RACE REPORT that you had a smoke before the race and I was like...WTF? I mean, not to judge on the smoking before but you said that you did so. I know someone who is 330 marathon runner who brings smokes in a fanny pack so she can smoke at races. I also know an ultra runner who smokes and runs with a nic patch so he doenst loose time stopping for a smoke and right after that is the first thing he does...
I hope you do it,.
who is this ahole damien? weird.

after my cold is gone, i'll have been long enough without a smoke that an early morning cigarette would probably taste like one of damien's posts - pretty shitty, and utterly pointless!

biggest urge yesterday was while making dinner after my run, but the food was delicious without my sense of taste being weakened by smoke, even though i'm still stuffed up! :)

off to the pool..

cheers!

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When you have the urge, find your man and have a good kiss or more... Take your mind off of the bad urge and enjoy the good urge

What Damien is doing is nothing compared to what the addiction will be doing to you over the next few weeks (and years).

Best of luck. If I hear the screaming over here on the west side of Cambridge, I know who it's coming from...
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that's a great idea steveandbarb! :)

still just habit-based urges right now - no actual desire to have a smoke. even if i get to the point i *think* i want one, i'm keeping it locked in my mind that CIGARETTES DO NOT SOLVE PROBLEMS.

going for a walk with my honey before the rain sets in..

cheers!

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walk with the loved one plus sharing a cigarette is a great bonding experience. Smoking and walking will solve a lot of problems.

good grief, is that honestly the best you've got? i'm disappointed in you...2/10 at best.

cheers!

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I quit cold turkey about 27 years ago. Remember, you're not a smoker trying to quit. You're a nonsmoker.

keep me updated and I will try to get a score of 10/10 someday. Hope you had a good pooper.

i've termed myself an ex-smoker :)

went out to get groceries and saw a fellow lighting up when we were on our way home. the idea didn't appeal - no desire to have one.

all ashtrays have been packed away since yesterday morning. threw out a couple of empty packs tanker had been saving (he was collecting tax stamps from different states we've visited) - only thing left is a lighter or two around the house for candles & lighting bonfires in the backyard.

cheers!

-mistress k

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Damien as in Lucifer? You're too funny but you're not helping anything other than my abs! :)

As an on and off smoker for near twenty years now, I understand how many times and how easily one can take it back up but I do believe that change takes time and growth and support so whatever it was that made you take it back up back then, well, you said it yourself, you are not that same person any longer and in true ST fashion you have all the support you need right here this time around, the last time.

There is a book by Mike Magnuson, a proffessor and a cylist, that was a two pack a day smoker and heavy drinker and weighed in at around 400 lbs who at the age of 39 changed his life entirely by riding his bike, quitting cold tukey and riding centuries, dropping something like 200 lbs and dropping the local cat 1's within a year or two. The book is called Heft on Wheels and I'd recommend you spend some time reading his story as I have a feeling you will be awestruck at what is really possible and he talks with detail about his thoughts on smoking and drinking and his prior life which is what I connected with. Whenever you might feel the need to spark up, read a chapter instead and you'll see. It helped me on the right track for sure.

Just a suggestion and either way, hats off to you Missy and remember, Anything is Possible.

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Whenever you might feel the need to spark up, read a chapter instead and you'll see. It helped me on the right track for sure.

Just a suggestion and either way, hats off to you Missy and remember, Anything is Possible.

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feel the need to spark up, then spark up and puff it away. One other guy suggested kiss and fuck. I would say spark, kiss, and fuck away. Nothing like two ashtrays fucking and kissing.

thanks for the suggestion! i must admit i'm not much of a reader of inspirational stories, but i will certainly keep it in mind. still haven't felt like lighting up yet, which i think is due to having broken mental associations with it, and tanker agreed this morning that he hadn't really had any cravings either...perhaps a feeling that "something is missing", but no actual urge to have a smoke.

first day back at work, but noone in my office smokes (boss used to), so no real triggers here except stress...and i can always go for a walk instead :)

pfft..."ashtray" only applies to people who smoke. I DON'T, and neither does tanker! :)

cheers!

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If you haven't already, check out the book "The Easy Way to Stop Smoking" by Allen Carr. It can be a bit cheesy, but the mental tricks and mindframe the book helps you with are worth it. It's a positive approach to quitting.

Not to be a Debbie downer, but the cravings never completely go away. What happens is that they become fewer and farther apart AND you become much better at managing them. Know that this IS do-able. And seeing yourself as an ex-smoker is the right frame of mind.

once nicotine is out of your system (under 12 hours from now, at most), cravings are all psychological - if you say they "never go away", that means there is still a mental connection between an activity/feeling and smoking for you.

i do not associate smoking with comfort anymore.

i do not believe it will bring stress relief.

i do not think it will make pain go away.

i do not believe it will increase a feeling of pleasure.

so, why would i crave one? the answer: i don't!

i bit my nails for 10 years - i'd have the urge to do so 20 times a day or more. one day, about 9 years ago, i stopped. i've never bit my nails again since, and don't ever get the urge to do so. i broke the psychological "need" to bite them, just like i no longer have a "need" to have a cigarette.

cheers!

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Hey, I'm just sharing my personal experience--and the collective experiences of many nicotine addicts (yes, that's what we are). At some point the bravado goes away and you hit a weak point--what's your plan then? It's very hard to differentiate between psychological and physical cravings--the mind has a powerful effect on the body--and though it may be mental, it manifests itself in physical ways.

While this is a site for smokeless tobacco users www.killthecan.org there are smokers on there who join for the support.

I don't want to get in an argument, but share what has worked for me. It's a good thing you're doing so keep up the good work!

i appreciate your encouragement, and i'm not trying to argue, but i do believe that different people can have different experiences with quitting. yes, i know i'm an addict, which is why i know i can't succumb to the "just one more" trap. one puff will start the withdrawal all over again, or just drag me back in.

my plan when having a "weak moment" is to remember exactly what i said in my last post: a smoke won't make it better, it will only add more problems, and "just one" will always be too many.

example: i was wrestling with moving that ungodly beast, the conti trainer tire, from one wheel to another yesterday afternoon. it was a frustrating task, and ordinarily i'd go through 2-3 smokes in the time it took me to unhook the bike from the trainer, pull the wheel, remove the tire & tube, move both to the new wheel, put a new tube and my road tire back on the original wheel and put the new wheel on the bike, then hook the bike back up to the trainer.

i swore a bit, and the thought occurred that i'd usually have a smoke when getting frustrated. instead, i put the wheel down, had a sip of water, then went back at at. key point: the thought was that i USED to have a smoke, not that i WANTED a smoke. it wasn't a craving, just a habit-urge, and that was under 48hrs smoke-free. that's what i mean by breaking the association, and i don't think it's "bravado".

i also don't think it would be a healthy thing for me to get involved in that forum - i'm not having cravings, so i don't think i particularly want to read about people that are, or are dealing with them through another form of nicotine delivery. i'm just done with the junk..

cheers!

-mistress k

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You are totally right, everyone is different. And so is their quit.

Best of luck.

I bite my nails... it's an anti anxiety thing. Would LOVE to stop that.

Great job with the not smoking :-)

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thanks! i wish i could tell you how i stopped biting my nails - i just decided one day i wouldn't do it anymore, and it stuck. hoping i've achieved the same mindset here!

1 more hour until the max time it takes to get nicotine out of the human body (72hrs). still no cravings, still feeling positive, and had a nice run, little spin, and swim this evening. time to make some dinner and head to bed to end day 3 :)

cheers!

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It's all mental now. :) And you seem pretty strong there so you will have no problems. :)
If I can offer some advice. It is critical for the next couple of months (at least it was for me), to break all those habit-inducing activities where it is too easy to smoke. For me, it was giving up camping and going out to the bars for a year. I didn't do either because I knew it would be too easy to get sucked back in. I also had to stop hanging around smokers for a while as well. Some of them were really supportive while others wanted me back smoking.
Sounds like you guys are doing a fantastic job. Keep it up!

M~

thanks! barely even having thoughts about smokes at this point :)

i don't really have any particular habit-inducing activities that i can avoid - i used to have a smoke after every workout, and i did have a habit-urge after my run last night, but still no desire to smoke. i'd also typically have a couple while making dinner, and the habit-urge was pretty strong while doing so on sunday, but it was mostly just my hands being used to doing a million things at once. actually kind of relaxing to have one less thing to juggle..

i don't go to bars at all, because i don't drink anymore (i spent st. paddy's at the pool - sent tanker to the pub ;) ...i won't be camping until july, the week after muskoka long course...i also won't be at any motorcycle rallies until civic holiday weekend, and didn't have any cravings just taking my moto out for a ride on saturday. that one was important - the last time i quit was fall of 2004, and it was starting to ride motorcycles in spring of '05 that got me smoking again...but it looks like i've broken the adrenaline-association as well. i just haven't felt that i wanted one at any point, and the "something's missing" sensation is starting to go away as well.

i'm proud of tanker right now, though - he had a really rough day yesterday, but managed to tough it out without caving! :)

cheers!

-mistress k

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I bit my nails for 15 yrs. I finally quit by trimming my nails each morning with nail clippers. Whenever I'd put a nail in my mouth, the smoothly trimmed nails reminded me not to bite them. When they were ragged from biting, it was easier to absent-mindedly chew on them.

I'm kind of a germophobe, so looking back, I can't believe I ever bit them. Disgusting.

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I smoked as a teenager, up to half a pack a day at one point. Back in those days if you didn't smoke in high school then you just weren't cool. Quit at age 20 and never looked back. I remember it being very hard to quit. My secret was to not have that very first smoke in the morning and extend it through the day. For the first couple of years I even missed not smoking after dinner of if drinking/partying (Yeah I did a lot of that in my youth).

until about 2 months ago i was closer to a pack a day...cut out a couple here and there through my workday, and stopped having one before we'd even leave the house (waited until we were in the car)...probably about 3/4 of a pack per day up until friday.

it's been eerily easy so far...and i can't say that i really miss it..

cheers!

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My boyfriend's mother got a spot on her lungs. While she was in the hospital having the lobe removed, we cleaned her house and furniture with his steam cleaner, cleaned the drapes etc... The tank just kept filling up with gray water. Cleaned the carpet 3x! She said that the lack of the cigarette smell in the house really helped to curb her cravings. It is much more pleasant when non-smokers visit now as well.

the very first morning, tanker rounded up all the ashtrays in the house, dumped them out and washed them thoroughly. they got packed into a box to be donated to value village or goodwill, and when the garbage went out to the curb on monday night, the last of the ash was gone from the house.

i haven't really noticed any odors since then, though i am looking forward to the beautiful weather they're predicting for this weekend so we can open the windows and air out the house! 3 kitties can make things pretty stale all on their own after a long winter..

eventually we'll get around to washing the tar off the walls and windows, and the carpet has needed a steam cleaning for awhile (we throw some pretty rowdy parties)...the car also needs a good interior scrubbing!

cheers!

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I gotta say that this thread has me not smoking either, two days now and not an urge. I have puffed on two swisher sweets throughout the days, (normal, get your head out of the gutter or rather out of the clouds), one yesterday and one today but not eight to ten cigs per day. Thanks Missy!

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good for you! :) i will mention that the cigarello still puts nicotine into your bloodstream, so the addiction cycle does continue...tanker had to give away his last 2 backwoods to ensure he wouldn't fall into the cigar trap (he's worse than most people as he inhales the smoke from them like a cigarette)..

definitely a good step forward, though! :D

cheers!

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You're doing a good thing & inspiring others. You're doing it a really strong way, too. See? Stubborn can sometimes really be a good thing! In all seriousness though, I'm super impressed & proud of you.

My mom quit using Chantix 3 or 4 years ago - <6wks & she was done, but it started with her mentally being "ready" like you were. Since has turned into a militant anti-smoking chick, hates the sight, the smell, the whole deal. Dad still smokes...makes for some entertaining moments. But she doesn't "want" or crave anymore - she got to the same point you did, she was just sick of the act & of being controlled. He hasn't decided he wants to yet & doesn't know if he ever will. Drives her nuts, but he annoys her too so it's all even. Good on you two for doing it together.

Use the annoying ones on here as motivation. I know it's not important to you (another great sign) but it's good for any seriously weak moments. Prove them all wrong. I don't think you'll need my words of encouragement though....

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thanks for that! whether i need it or not, i do appreciate the encouragement :)

one of the best things i've ever experienced in my entire life was being able to tell my mum and dad yesterday, when they came out to our place to take us out for easter lunch, that "i was going to buy you some easter flowers, but thought you might like this present better"...then said that we'd smoked the last cigarette we ever intend to 8 days previously. the look on their faces was something i'll treasure forever! :D

cheers!

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Wow, you are doing so great! I had a mini meltdown about 2 weeks after quitting so if that happens to you just know you can get through it and that any discomfort or distress is temporary. Congratulations to you on kicking butts!

thanks a bunch! :)

i think the closest i've had to a craving was friday - i met tanker at a tim hortons at the halfway point of my first outdoor ride of the year on my TT bike (had only had the MTB outside), and a gentleman was standing right by us outside having a smoke while tanker drank his coffee and i sipped on water. we talked about it later, and we both had a moment of "hmm.." there, but we both recognized it for what it was; the habit of having a smoke after something that gets your blood pumping (tanker was on his motorcycle), and nothing more.

in getting the bike ready for the first outdoor ride, i finally remembered one of the last things i needed to do to confirm myself as a non-smoker - i took the mini bic out of my bento box! yep, i used to stop for a smoke quite often on training rides of 30km or more, so i kept a lighter on the bike and would tuck a couple of loose cigarettes in there under my gel flask.

must've dropped a ton of weight by getting rid of that lighter, because my average speed on the 2 rides i put in friday & saturday was about 5km/hr faster than last year despite nasty winds ;)

cheers!

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must've dropped a ton of weight by getting rid of that lighter, because my average speed on the 2 rides i put in friday & saturday was about 5km/hr faster than last year despite nasty winds ;)

Or your lung capacity has improved. You're going to crush some PR's this summer with those happy lungs! :)

i was being a tiny bit facetious there! it's partly increased lung capacity, and hugely due to the work i put in on the trainer over the winter - i only did <1,300km of cycling for the whole of 2009, but had 1,000km in the books (95% of that on the trainer) by march 31st of 2010.

the only thing that torques me is that i'll never know how much i would have improved with just putting in the additional training...but i'd rather not know and be a non-smoker than start smoking again to find out ;)

cheers!

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My Dad quit with the help of sunflower seeds...lots of them. In fact he still eats them when he is driving to help him stay alert.

i'm definitely happy not having used any kind of replacement when i quit - haven't gained a single pound, and barely even think about smoking anymore. did have a small urge after a 5k i did for fun with a friend on saturday, but that's just because i was used to having one after a race.

since i took 10sec off my 5k PR (which was set on a steep downhill point-to-point course - this one was flat) on almost no run training after 2 weeks as a non-smoker, i certainly think i've got plenty of motivation to stay smoke-free ;)

cheers!

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1 year anniversary yesterday. "celebrated" with a swim and 16 mile trail run :)

cheers!

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Happy anniversary!

Good on ya! Congrats!

9 more years, I think, and your lungs will be completely healed with no sign of smoke damage. Good for you!

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Congrats! inspiring for the rest of us. how did Tanker make out?

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thanks guys :)

tanker was actually the one who reminded me that sunday was our 1 year "quitterversary"! he didn't even kill anyone ;)

cheers!

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Congrats. Great job on recognizing what you had to do and doing it.