This happened like two weeks ago.
Is this just being reported?
Suspicion started months ago when he pulled out of Boulder after already being there, and then his exit from Roth for “personal reasons”.
Yeah, it was super vague…not like he was busy moving house or something legit like that.
This happened like two weeks ago.
Is this just being reported?
Suspicion started months ago when he pulled out of Boulder after already being there, and then his exit from Roth for “personal reasons”.
Yeah, it was super vague…not like he was busy moving house or something legit like that.
Give me the reference to moving house. Seen this example a few times now, so must be referring to someone specifically
Testing methods improving. 90% of these guys are on the hot sauce and they’re actually catching a couple now. Lol.
Testing methods improving. 90% of these guys are on the hot sauce and they’re actually catching a couple now. Lol.
The best part of this is watching the pros seem outraged. If you comment outrage, you can be suspected of doing it yourself… right??
well, we’ll always have Paris
Bwahahaha comment of the year!!
(For those not getting it. “Casablanca†reference)
I was going to say:
“Fuck your testing, boy!â€
It was sort of a joke.
Sam Laidlow withdrew from races right around the time there were doping allegations, citing “personal reasons” and “moving house”
https://triathlonmagazine.ca/news/sam-laidlow-pulls-out-of-pto-european-open/
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I’m shocked
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This is being shared and it comes from his coach (the Doctor):
"Informarles sobre la situación actual de nuestro atleta, quien recientemente fue sometido a una prueba antidopaje en la cual se encontró una fracción muy baja de clomifeno en su orina. Para brindar un contexto adecuado, es importante destacar que los valores normales de clomifeno cuando se utiliza como sustancia dopante suelen oscilar entre 6 a 9 ng/mL. Sin embargo, el resultado de nuestro atleta mostró un valor de 0.416 ng/mL, considerablemente por debajo de los rangos tÃpicamente asociados con el dopaje.
En estos momentos, estamos en un proceso de juicio para confirmar que la presencia de clomifeno se debe a una intoxicación alimentaria por consumo de huevo. Este riesgo está bien documentado en la Agencia Mundial Antidopaje (WADA), que reconoce la posibilidad de que los alimentos puedan ser la fuente de contaminantes. Incluso en la pagina oficial de la WADA existe un articulo de investigación con esta sustancia y la intoxicación por huevo.
La WADA ha otorgado el beneficio de la duda, ya que si no hubiera condenado a tomas por 4 años de suspensión considerando plausible la hipótesis de una intoxicación alimentaria. No obstante, estamos en la fase crucial de reunir y presentar las evidencias necesarias para confirmar esta hipótesis. Existe mucha contaminación de carne, pollo y huevo y hay casos ya de clembuterol que se han solucionado por contaminación alimentaria.
Es importante subrayar que todos los demás valores hormonales de nuestro atleta, incluyendo los niveles de testosterona, ( cuando tomas estas sustancias con fines de dopaje se elevan los valores de testosterona y otros hormonales se desajustan ) se encuentran dentro de los rangos normales, lo que forma parte de las aclaraciones que estamos proporcionando en este proceso. me es importante compartirles esto para que de primera mano y sin otros rumores sepan la situación actual por la que esta pasando tomas.
Agradecemos su comprensión y apoyo mientras continuamos trabajando para resolver esta situación de manera justa y transparente."
In English:
"Please be advised of the current situation of our athlete, who recently underwent an anti-doping test in which a very low fraction of clomiphene was found in his urine. To provide proper context, it is important to note that normal values ​​for clomiphene when used as a doping substance typically range from 6 to 9 ng/mL. However, our athlete’s result showed a value of 0.416 ng/mL, considerably below the ranges typically associated with doping.
At this time, we are in the process of a trial to confirm that the presence of clomiphene is due to food poisoning from egg consumption. This risk is well documented by the World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA), which recognizes the possibility that food may be the source of contaminants. Even on the official WADA website there is a research article with this substance and egg poisoning.
WADA has given the benefit of the doubt, otherwise it would have sentenced Tomas to a 4-year suspension, considering the hypothesis of food poisoning to be plausible. However, we are in the crucial phase of gathering and presenting the necessary evidence to confirm this hypothesis. There is a lot of contamination of meat, chicken and eggs and there are already cases of clenbuterol that have been solved due to food contamination.
It is important to emphasize that all the other hormonal values ​​of our athlete, including testosterone levels (when you take these substances for doping purposes, testosterone levels rise and other hormonal levels become unbalanced) are within normal ranges, which is part of the clarifications we are providing in this process. It is important for me to share this with you so that you know firsthand and without other rumors the current situation that Tomas is going through.
We appreciate your understanding and support as we continue to work to resolve this situation in a fair and transparent manner."
Seems like that guy knows a lot about doping
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Seems like that guy knows a lot about doping
I’ll reiterate what I said earlier: this guy is known for his knowledge of how to cycle PEDs and what medications he has to use to cover it up. Last year one of this athletes that does MTB was banned for failing to update his whereabouts 3 times. This is not new for this coach.
Ugh, that reply is horrendous. He’s basically saying the amount of residue is a trace amount because he didn’t cycle off it as fast as he thought he would.
It’s evidence that points to higher prior higher levels which came from doping.
The idea of being too dumb to cycle off, is always a fine line, I assume. If a doctor tells you this will be out of your system in 4 weeks, you don’t imagine that it will still have trace amounts in 5 weeks. I doubt anyone is putting a needle in their thigh the night before kind of thing. They just aren’t calibrating their doping by testing themselves regularly for doping.
I’ve often wondered if that’s why some athletes pull out before an event. They do a last minute doping test of themselves and when they test positive, suddenly they are sick or have other life circumstances. I won’t mention the house one as that unfairly calls out Laidlow. The countryside in France isn’t an easy place to move house. I’m sure it was a real headache.
I think you’re overestimating how easy it is to do a self “dope” test… It’s not exactly an over the counter drug test or something a normal lab can do.
I agree that the doc’s comments make Tomas look guilty AF.
Ugh, that reply is horrendous. He’s basically saying the amount of residue is a trace amount because he didn’t cycle off it as fast as he thought he would.
It’s evidence that points to higher prior higher levels which came from doping.
The idea of being too dumb to cycle off, is always a fine line, I assume. If a doctor tells you this will be out of your system in 4 weeks, you don’t imagine that it will still have trace amounts in 5 weeks. I doubt anyone is putting a needle in their thigh the night before kind of thing. They just aren’t calibrating their doping by testing themselves regularly for doping.
I’ve often wondered if that’s why some athletes pull out before an event. They do a last minute doping test of themselves and when they test positive, suddenly they are sick or have other life circumstances. I won’t mention the house one as that unfairly calls out Laidlow. The countryside in France isn’t an easy place to move house. I’m sure it was a real headache.
i’ve definitely heard people speculate that there’s a category of something like “the gentleman’s DNS.” when you’ve recently tested positive or near enough to positive that you’re persona-non-grata in a competition, but nobody wants to actually go through the whole ordeal of reporting a positive.
remember that many sports self-police this, and they essentially face some messed-up incentives. let’s say that someone like michael phelps or usain bolt tests positive at the height of their powers. way too many people are way too invested in them to want it to go public. so nike/NBC/IOC/some agents and lawyers sit down with the federation and say, “maybe now would be a good time for our athlete to take 6 months off for some knee surgery, eh?”
is this how it goes? no idea. but it seems plausible. it also fits with some patterns of voluntary scratches/elective surgeries, and with the fact that the sacrificial lambs are often bulgarian weightlifters or something, but not usually american wheaties-box types. remember that lance and marion jones weren’t really busted by positive tests, after all.
I won’t mention the house one as that unfairly calls out Laidlow. The countryside in France isn’t an easy place to move house. I’m sure it was a real headache.
He’s just a stand up guy that everyone should leave alone and not question…
Read a similar comment somewhere on social media about his coach, regarding a Mexican mountain biker working with this coach and getting in trouble too. It is unfortunate that Rodriguez chose this path and coach if he indeed cheated.
My limited understanding regarding clomid is that it is used after or with steroids to keep or re-start test production. Seems like a dumb product to use as at the effective dosages it easily pops up in a test.
Rodriguez just released a post suggesting it was food contamination and will try to use that as the basis of his defense. I suppose he will need to find out contaminated eggs or whatever. Give him the benefit of the doubt, could go well as athletes that test positive for clen due to contaminated meat or bad as Contador’s infamous steak that was shipped to him during the tour’s rest day lol. But then they, inexplicably, cleared Froome when he used the same strategy.
Innocent until proven guilty, but it does not look right now.
Read a similar comment somewhere on social media about his coach, regarding a Mexican mountain biker working with this coach and getting in trouble too. It is unfortunate that Rodriguez chose this path and coach if he indeed cheated.
My limited understanding regarding clomid is that it is used after or with steroids to keep or re-start test production. Seems like a dumb product to use as at the effective dosages it easily pops up in a test.
Rodriguez just released a post suggesting it was food contamination and will try to use that as the basis of his defense. I suppose he will need to find out contaminated eggs or whatever. Give him the benefit of the doubt, could go well as athletes that test positive for clen due to contaminated meat or bad as Contador’s infamous steak that was shipped to him during the tour’s rest day lol. But then they, inexplicably, cleared Froome when he used the same strategy.
Innocent until proven guilty, but it does not look right now.
yeah, an estrogen receptor blocker, i think? so essentially would kickstart testosterone production. a relatively long half-life compared to other popular PEDs, and this was apparently an in-competition test. so if he got popped doping with this stuff, we was pretty clumsy about it.
Pretty sure I got some Clomid around the house still from when my wife was having infertility issues with our second kid, didn’t know it could help me run a 2:34 off the bike lol.
That response from the coach is so suspicious. I wonder how long they’ve known for, Ironman Texas was in April. There certainly was some suspicions around his dropping off the face of the earth.
Nothing like a doping scandal to start the week off.
honestly, i’m not too bothered by the coach’s statement. i mean . . . what are you supposed to say, at this stage? it’s more or less exactly what you’d say if the food contamination thing were true. it’s also what you’d say if you were lying. anyway you can’t prove a negative.
i always ask in these situations, “what could the coach say that we would accept?”
The food contamination defense sounds so ridiculous, he just happened to have some contaminated eggs or something right before an out of this world performance. Right.