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This is sort of like looking at Pro Riders that are on the tour with their smaller frame sets, jacked up seat posts and 140mm stems and saying… “The bike manufacturers aren’t making road bikes right”. We are looking at the top guys in the sport that are trying to do anything and everything and demanding that it be the same for the masses. (I blame Joe Skipper for most of this craziness) I even think that the 3rd party bar makers are starting to even put regulations on how forward they are willing to put a rider.
Can you mount those PD extenders backwards to reduce reach?
Seems like we are venturing into this thread
And this is why the manufacturers should start making the frames longer so we don’t have to use duct tape solutions.
It’s not just the pros that are benefitting from longer reach. From the session we did this week, with amateurs, probably half benefitted from more reach. Most found it more comfortable as well.
Again, Jeroen is asking with the steep angle without the reach required to unlock it’s full potential
I will check and confirm what I wrote about Ben’s sizing and get back to you.
While only recently commercially available, the reach extender by PD has been a go-to-market solution for them as long as I can remember in the development process. We even saw physical 3D Printed samples of that part in October 2023, so it has always been in the geo plan.
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I’m just curious why Ventum went with such a steep seat tube angle. Looking at Danielle’s bike it looks like she was almost running out of saddle rail space to even get the saddle far enough back. Steph also seams to be quite far back in relation to the saddle rail clamp location.
I know the trend is to have a saddle that is set further forward but I also feel like it alienates people that do want more saddle setback. Like for example my effective seat tube angle is 76 degrees for my last bike fit but I always found that I have had a loss of power when I move the saddle further forward. With it being a UCI legal bike I wonder how that fit will even work when it comes to the -50mm setback rule as well considering how steep that seat tube angle is.
We have a UCI/Setback post that a few of our riders are currently using. We just didn’t include it at launch as frankly we don’t expect to sell many. It will be available in a couple weeks. Most customers today want to be forward, but we do recognize there are people bound by UCI regulations and/or just want a position further back so we made both!
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I’ve read through this discussion and I although people mention a BTA, I haven’t seen anything specific from anyone (including Ventum or PD). I am aware that their pros have built out BTA solutions, but it’s not obvious that there is anything available off the shelf.
Does anyone know of a BTA approach for this bike (and in particular with the ACS Pro bar), that doesn’t involve Home Depot or 3D printing?
See the slowtwitch news article “seen at sea otter…”
Yes, but that setup requires buying a new set of aerobats. Doable, but not ideal
OK, but what is that? Not clear that it’s off-the-shelf.
looks like it’s from tririg
photo fro triathlete.com
I suspect there is a “bridge” you can put between the two columns of spacers and then stack the bottle from there
Im just finishing up at review on that set up 
correct - I did want to show that there were commercial solutions, and if there’s one, there are probably a dozen more (an additional one pointed out by @marcag). Hope @E_DUB article elaborating on Kanute’s set-up helps further
Ventum athletes have access to a bta bridge prototype that is specific to the riser system. Still a few months away from the production version.
Also note that kanutes setup won’t pass the new DTU rules.
So if I want to race on this at Nice, I need to swap the bars or hope the BTA mount becomes available
If you’re in need of a short term solution and have a lot of stack, then an A3 Adaptor, A2 Bridge and A2-A3 adaptor would allow fitment of the A2 BTA. That would be a costly way to do it and not approved for multiple bottles.
There is a chance the production version of the A3 BTA Bridge will be available by Nice, the prototype has passed fatigue testing. Keeping in touch with Ventum would probably be the best way to know.
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