I don’t doubt thats correct. I’m sure the players collectively said that they weren’t doing anything wrong. But at the very least they were doing things illegal under the laws of the United States.
When you go to a lab run by an ex rock band memeber, that uses code names for clients, and you lie about going, vs going to a legit Dr you just might know in the back of your mind you are doing wrong.
If MLB players were so sure they were in the right, why lie under penalty of perjury? Why not say hell yeah I took the stuff, I was being paid millions and i did everything I could to earn it?
I don’t understand something. Floyd claims that Lance and Company taught him how to dope. Yet, he got caught and none of the people he names ever did? So, aside from the fact that for the past 4 years he lied to everyone about his doping, is he also telling us hes an idiot?
I do not understand. I thought I could take EPO, HGH, or any of the other stuff if my doctor said I needed them. So, as a general medical need, I am not aware any of this stuff is “illegal”. Now, different parts of our society have said you take take stuff, but just not play in our sand box, as the rule.
I skimmed the (long) chain of email… The whole shit went wrong when Dr. Kay asked Lance to take Floyd onto the Radioshack Team. He should have known the answer without asking, but getting a negative answer (apparently) made Floyd defensive.
Also, I’m not sure why the TOC organizers chose to exclude Team OUCH, but Floyd has got to understand that getting a date requires finesse rather than approaching the girl and insisting on cramming it in her throat.
Floyd is not thinking clearly. I feel sorry for him b/c his opportunities are limited. One might suggest a college degree (maybe he has one?), but he needs to move on and consider another line of work. Blasting some of the top names in cycling will give Floyd 15 minutes - and that’s it. He’ll be forgotten by stage 17 of the TDF.
OTOH, look at Vino, he took his slap on the wrist and he’s back. Finesse, Floyd, finesse.
You’re correct, but the vast amount of MLB players aren’t accused of using these things for a legit medicle reason under a prescription from a legit Dr. Balco (which is what most BB players are accused of using as a source) was not a medical facility. The creme and the clear are not legal to be prescribed.
There is plenty of evidence, the old “never failed a drug test” only proves he’s never failed a drug test.
And it isn’t all you can do.
there are ways and means of investigating these issues and/or “catching” drug cheats.
Are we serious or are we just going to go on using drug testing with 5 year out of date methods as the only line of defence against drug cheats.
You keep harping on this but it’s not like there haven’t been any investigations. You may recall Operation Puerto along with a number of raids on team vehicles, hotels, and other facilities. I’m not saying that this proves anything about Lance/Levi/US Postal/Discovery, etc…just that testing isn’t the only standard being used.
Out of all of what has come out over the last few days, the most important things we know for sure are that Floyd Landis used PEDs during his career and he is immoral enough to request and accept a lot of money from the public for his legal case despite being a cheater. Almost everything else being debated around this topic is merely conjecture.