Seemingly don't build houses on an Indian Graveyard

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/eby-on-cowichan-aboriginal-title-case-9.6946889

https://www.cbc.ca/news/indigenous/quwutsun-nation-aboriginal-title-9.6952944

Also WTAF Canada?

No wonder BCtriguy1 wants to move

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this is slowtwitchs version of release the epstien files.. or kash patel. dealers choice i guess.

The problem is the entire fucking province is an indigenous burial site.

This is exactly why I was ranting against land acknowledgements in the other thread.

This is going to be a massive court case. Even a band from the US is suing BC saying they have historical claim to certain areas.

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I thought you were complaining because it was virtue signaling douchery not this nonsense

Backdoor way to get you to be part of the US :slight_smile:

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My issue is people who do the land acknowledgements will say it’s harmless, it’s just paying respect etc. But when your public institutions continually tell people the land you’re on isn’t yours, and then this happens….

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This.

The “sacred” title can be applied to anything and everything when it’s advantageous for political or economic purposes.

Did white folk do similar things through manifest destiny a couple hundred years ago, yep, probably, but I think it was more the ability to use force in taking the land initially, as all people and mammals do…

I see lots of people claiming “land back” propaganda, but I haven’t seen any of them sign over their land…. So, yeah…

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The native groups have repeatedly said they don’t want to kick anybody off privately owned land. I think they will continue to press on gov’t land. Ultimately this has to be resolved politically. There are 4 million natives and 36 million or the rest of us.

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The people who make land acknowledgements. None of them are voluntarily giving up their land. So, yeah. Ironically many of the people who displaced native groups were in Canada because they were displaced back home.

Indians are from India..

I don’t really know how much comfort this “trust me bro” sentiment is going to give people caught up in these disputes.

Just because they say they won’t, that doesn’t mean they can’t, and it also doesn’t eliminate complications arising from dual title. This could very well tank land value across BC.

I live in Ontario and near the town of Southampton. A client of mine bought a house and tore it down to build a new one. The City did some testing and found “artifacts” so the entire build came to a halt. It is going to take years, if not more, for him to get permission to build and he is renting while trying to build his home.

It’s insanity and if anyone around here is looking to buy a home, I would suggest getting one where you don’t have to do any renovations that require digging.

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I’ve dealt with this a few times.

In 2006ish, something identical happened during excavation. The client was on the hook for a few hundred thousand to pay the cost of careful excavation, as well as a catered ceremony for the indigenous group in question to pay their respects. I mean, this was on a site where there was previously a house already and next to a very well used public beach.

Now in some municipalities before anything can be a built you need to get an archeological survey done just to get your building permits. Developers pay a lot of favours to excavators to look the other way if anything is found during excavation. I mean an misplaced chicken bone from somebody’s lunch could set off an expensive investigation.

Nobody in his right mind should buy land in BC these days. You can’t know if there was some secret or shady deal between the government and the natives, so what you buy is not actually yours. You also don’t have any assurances that if you buy something, a native can just show up, point fingers and claim that somebody sometimes roamed this area and demand it back. And the government and the woke idiots oblige.

My wife gets contacted about this stuff all the time.

She’s a forensic anthropologist who consults with law enforcement, is tight with the City of Boston archaeologist, and we also have a brother-in-law who’s a stonemason (“we” because mason is married to her sister, which I think also makes him my BIL…? Never been totally clear on that).

New England is legally, politically and culturally very attuned to native considerations.

Anytime anyone we know is digging in the dirt for whatever reason and finds something that kinda sorta looks like bone, there’s a call or text along the lines of “mrs wimsey…? can you take a quick look at this photo I just texted you…call me?”

[Phone call ensues in which there’s a panicked conversation about whether all activity needs to stop while something is investigated as a potential native burial or homestead, and/or crime scene of any vintage]

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Ruh roh… another land claim incoming, this time encompassing the entirety of Kamloops, a city of 100,000 (where my in laws live) and Sun Peaks, Canada’s second largest ski resort.

And you were worried about the US annexing Canada