Scam and Fraud

Hey everyone. I work in the financial industry and I just want to remind everyone to practice a bit more dillegence and caution with your finances and in particular fraud. I can tell you it is rampent right now. I’m not just talking Facebook marketplace. I’m talking love scams, lottery scams, family fear scams, fishing, texts, etc. you name it, it’s on high right now.

Our elderly are particularly vulnerable. If you have parents 60+, just be a bit extra aware of whats going on. Remind them.

Most of the time people are giving info or money willingly. It’s not someone hacking their financial accounts (although I’ve seen this too). These jerkhat scammers typically use fear and greed to make someone drop all logic and give it freely.

Sometimes it’s only a few hundred bucks, but I’ve increasingly seen 10s and 100s of thousands. It’s devastating.

So just be vigilant and error on caution.

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What if it’s $6.99 a month?

That was a joke. Moderators please don’t ban me… :slight_smile:

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My daughter got a text about toll charges. I told her I get legitimate plate-pay charges mailed to my house for her travels. She is still trying to have her name legally changed after marriage, but the USPS lost some important documents we sent which has delayed getting the registration on her car/plate updated.

:rofl: you brilliant bastard

@wildh24 appreciate you taking the time to give caution and bring attention to this issue. Definitely something that bears repeating.

60+? I’m 69 and have been using computers since 1980. I’ve had mobile (cell) phones from when they were hard wired into vehicles.

Lots of young people have been victimized. It’s not limited to older people.

Scams come in many ways now. Phone calls, texts, emails, social media, even in person. One of the newer forms is using your voice that is captured when you answer a call, then using AI to create other calls that use your voice to call people from a friend’s list on social media, using your spoofed phone number. While some of us may have had a bit of fun by jerking around the phone scammers, it’s now recommended to not answer any calls from unknown numbers.

So if one does decide to tell a scammer to fuck off or in more graphic terms, use an inanimate object and forcefully push it into an orifice multiple times, they should use a different voice?

It would be best to not answer the phone and let it go to voicemail. While it might make you feel better to berate a scammer, it won’t deter them.

ORLY

Appreciate the heads up.

There’s the recent text message that’s going about about unpaid Tolls. My 96 year old mom, who’s gave up the car keys years ago, even got that message. Good thing she knew not to click through on that.

While driving on a toll road last week I noticed a prominent sign saying, basically, “we never text you about overdue tolls.”

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My parents refuse to do anything online or over the phone that involves banking. They still take their bills to the bank and pay them in person.

I’m glad they have an inherent distrust of anything online as they age.

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It’s non stop here in PA. My son who doesn’t drive gets them. Created a great opportunity for scammers with the toll by plate.

You are absolutely right. It’s not just limited to 60+. My comment wasn’t meant to isolate or insult you. Sorry if was taken that way. I’ve seen it with younger people as well.

That said it is more prevalent with older individuals and it’s not so much about technology. It’s about trust and/or mild cognitive decline that may seem minor, but still puts someone at greater risk. My ask for those have friends or parents is just to help them be aware and be patient with them.

People who have been victimized many times don’t want to admit it out of embarrassment and/or fear they’ll have there freedom taken away so they won’t bring it up to a child or a spouse, etc.

Being tech savvy can help for sure. But it doesn’t prevent it either. It just takes one slip or con person to make it happen. I had a client get wrapped into a potential fraud ring. I caught it but the client was mad because we wouldn’t do the wire.

They are 58 yo. Their friend is an attorney who was also conned. The attorneys client was an early retired software entrepreneur who ultimately was taken for what I was told $1MM+. This was an inheritance scam! I read the first letter that was sent and said this isn’t legit, but the letterhead, names, etc were all looking pretty legit. It fooled them, fooled the attorney, fooled my client, and apparently others too. I caught it because one of the docs referenced FINCEN holding the funds until a tax liability was paid. FINCEN doesn’t do that and I knew it. Reported it to my investigative and compliance teams. They made phones calls and checked the faked statements. None of it existed.

After my client realized this they were obviously thankful, but at the moment they were pissed because they thought they were getting a great investment opportunity by lending money to the primary victim in exchange for a quick repayment and stock in a newly formed company.

This is just one of dozens we’ve seen. There are so many more. Most are just a slip in someone’s judgement. Occasionally it’s complex with sim card highjacking after someone got a hold of their usernames and passwords (it was likely caregivers…again someone close who you trust).

Another instance a client was exposed to was a potential $600,000+ amount. They were closing on a property purchase. Fraudsters had access to either their email or their agents email, were monitoring inbound and outbound correspondence from the real estate agent about the closing. Prior to close they sent an email to the client from a similar but just slightly different email address with closing amount and wiring instructions for the title company. Problem was it was not the account info for the title company but a newly made up account. It was caught through one of my colleagues who took one extra step to call the title company’s phone number (on a Google listing) to confirm.

Just be extra cautious everyone. When in doubt verify and/or ask someone you trust before doing anything.

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Nobody is immune. Hell I gave my info out unknowingly. Credit card info willingly given via a text I thought was for a package I was expecting. Took me to a very real looking USPS website with links that redirect to the actual USPS website. I didn’t lose anything because I caught it, but could have.

Again, my original post is just so that everyone is reminded and looking out for each other. That’s all.

My brother is the same. Of course he has no Internet at his house so he couldn’t if he wanted to.

Calling to confirm before transferring money is now a required procedure where I work.

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Same …but the phone number on the document sent to the client was not the phone number of the title company. The client called the number and verified.

This was 5 years ago before it became big thing and protocol for most businesses.

Crazy isn’t it!?

My wife nearly got scammed. She was searching for a specific company’s site and clicked on one that was like one letter off from the original and had a nearly identical customer facing display. She got pretty close to entering her cc info on the order form before a few things she said seemed off and I happened to look at what she was doing.

Your point is well taken. Any of us, young old or in between can get scammed pretty easily with today’s technology. That’s why I love watching videos like this all day!