I’ve not read any of the threads here so maybe this has been covered.
If they dissolve the union can the owners just go out and hire people then? I’d might actually watch a game or two of “Back yard” ball where the players were only being paid 50-100K a year 
There’s got to be enough college level players out there to have an entertaining season like that.
~Matt
I’m not sure why people expect the players to not act like rational economic agents.
Now if only the baseball guys would go back on strike (forever), I would be the happiest man alive!
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Care to elaborate?
Now that the union has disbanded. why can’t the Leauge just make a set of rules for each owner/team in the NBA. Actually why couldnt they before. That way the owners can get the hard salary cap, not allow contracts longer than 3 years. or have those contracts guarnteed, etc. Can’t the NBA say to each owner if you want a team in the leauge you must follow these rules. Naturally all the owners will vote a system in that they want anyway, and have nothing to do with the basketball related income issue’s.
while the news focus is on the BRI and the 50/50 split since it’s a catchy slogan. Many of the unresolved issues are hard cap vs soft cap, luxery taxs. mid level exemption’s, Bird rights… then they can go out without the union and sign whomever they want
Collusion legal issues aside, it would just becoime a cycle. Cancel all the contracts and start fresh with no ex NBA players. Pay them 500,000 max and for the first year or two these guys would be happy, after all their prospects before all the current player were kicked out wasn’t very bright.
But a year or two in the new less talented stars would start to feel underpaid, know the teams are making hundreds of millions. They would then start a union, go on strike and get higher and higher salaries.
There aren’t any losers in the NBA, financially. I could care less who gets the bigger chunk of the pie. One thing I do know, the league will start up with the current player sooner or later. The players wont start their own league and he owners wont fire them all.
Nah let’s go with 162 games like in baseball
NBA…30 teams, 16 make the playoffs. Playoffs take two months.
MLB…30 teams, 8 make the playoffs. Playoffs take about three weeks.
And I would be happy with a 150 game MLB season to help reduce the number of cold-ass games in the playoffs, particularly the world series.
Let the player go start their own league and let the league owners go hire other players and see who has a more marketable product.
My money is on the owners. They already have the infrastructure in place to run a league.
Most players cannot manage their own funds much less the funds of a business. Sure, for the first few games they may have paying customers, that is assuming they could even get to the first game.
Let the player go start their own league and let the league owners go hire other players and see who has a more marketable product.
My money is on the owners. They already have the infrastructure in place to run a league.
Most players cannot manage their own funds much less the funds of a business. Sure, for the first few games they may have paying customers, that is assuming they could even get to the first game.
I think the XFL football league example has shown that the true power lies in the existing league. And that’s controlled by the owners.
Worst case scenario: None of the current players get back on the court. The owners hire all new kids, and by the end of the season the commentators are talking about “the surprising new talent from this season” and “standout rookies” and “exciting new game dynamics”
If the owners have the cash to withstand the lockout, I don’t see how they can lose.
Why do we always see a big crowd of players (at least I’m assuming it’s players) on stage behind whoever is making the announcement? Are they supposed to look intimidating or something?
…you gotza roll with a posse’ mofo!
Now that the union has disbanded. why can’t the Leauge just make a set of rules for each owner/team in the NBA. Actually why couldnt they before. That way the owners can get the hard salary cap, not allow contracts longer than 3 years. or have those contracts guarnteed, etc. Can’t the NBA say to each owner if you want a team in the leauge you must follow these rules. Naturally all the owners will vote a system in that they want anyway, and have nothing to do with the basketball related income issue’s.
while the news focus is on the BRI and the 50/50 split since it’s a catchy slogan. Many of the unresolved issues are hard cap vs soft cap, luxery taxs. mid level exemption’s, Bird rights… then they can go out without the union and sign whomever they want
Deceritfying the union is the first step towards filing an anti-trust suit. It doesn’t mean the players are canning the union because they are unhappy, it is a negotiating tactic.
Sports leagues act as a single unit much of the time and not as 30 competing businesses. Pretty much the definition of an anti-trust violation. Years ago MLB was given an exemption since it was the national past-time. NFL, NBA, and NHL have no such exemption. Which is why Al davis made a shitload suing the NFL for trying to keep him from moving to LA but Frank McCourt can be told he has to sell.
An anti-trust suit would take years to actually come to a conclusion but it is a big club to wield if the players actually had the ability to risk everything to follow through. However, sports careers being short they will probably cave, which is what the owners are counting on. The owners are counting on short term pain they can weather in exchange for huge long term gains by forcing a very favorable split with the idea that the players will collapse after a couple missed paychecks.
In the end it is millionaires fighting billionaires for how to split up other billions, much of which is provided by taxpayers in the form of tax breaks and arena/stadium subsidies.
Let the player go start their own league and let the league owners go hire other players and see who has a more marketable product.
My money is on the owners. They already have the infrastructure in place to run a league.
Most players cannot manage their own funds much less the funds of a business. Sure, for the first few games they may have paying customers, that is assuming they could even get to the first game.
It would be interesting if the players did try to put together a league of their own if one could hear all the negotiations, discussions about ownership, compensation and other details they had to come to terms on. What could possibly derail that?
Let the player go start their own league and let the league owners go hire other players and see who has a more marketable product.
My money is on the owners. They already have the infrastructure in place to run a league.
Most players cannot manage their own funds much less the funds of a business. Sure, for the first few games they may have paying customers, that is assuming they could even get to the first game.
It would be interesting if the players did try to put together a league of their own if one could hear all the negotiations, discussions about ownership, compensation and other details they had to come to terms on. What could possibly derail that?
No places to play?
Let the player go start their own league and let the league owners go hire other players and see who has a more marketable product.
My money is on the owners. They already have the infrastructure in place to run a league.
Most players cannot manage their own funds much less the funds of a business. Sure, for the first few games they may have paying customers, that is assuming they could even get to the first game.
It would be interesting if the players did try to put together a league of their own if one could hear all the negotiations, discussions about ownership, compensation and other details they had to come to terms on. What could possibly derail that?
No places to play?
I’m sure there are plenty of auditoriums and arenas they could rent with adequate seating, I don’t see that as something that would derail the venture, them not willing to invest their own money could be another story though. I think every major city as a facility that would work.
What could possibly derail that?
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I think not letting the broader union vote on decertification and the owner’s final proposal will really come back to haunt the union leadership.
If I am one of the 375 or so odd player’s totally excluded from those decisions, I would not be at all happy right now regardless of my inclination on the broader issues.
Additionally, that course of action likely indicates the union knew, or at least believed, the vote would go against their preferred course. They will lose, and lose badly when all is said and done.