Nick Bare goes sub 2:40 for CIM marathon

I think the majority of people here who think he is on gear are the ones who never heard of him until he competed in triathlon and endurance sports. It’s easy to take one look at his YouTube thumbnails or IG post of his physique and claim not natty without seeing his documentation on social media and YT 8-10 years prior. My opinion, from following him all these years, is that he has too much integrity and dedication/consistency to use gear and not disclose it. No one has to agree with me though.

that can be said about lance. I will admit that even I fell for it

I think the majority of people here who think he is on gear are the ones who never heard of him until he competed in triathlon and endurance sports. It’s easy to take one look at his YouTube thumbnails or IG post of his physique and claim not natty without seeing his documentation on social media and YT 8-10 years prior. My opinion, from following him all these years, is that he has too much integrity and dedication/consistency to use gear and not disclose it. No one has to agree with me though.

How in the hell do you have any idea about a random strangers level of ‘integrity’? This topic and this guy has been done to death, but as always there are people who think him along with the Rock are natty and nothing said will change their mind.

If you know you know, spend enough time around gyms and you will also…

My background before endurance sports was wrestling and bodybuilding (over 20 years). I assure you I have spent some time in gyms lol. I couldn’t care less about the Rock, I don’t follow him. Doesn’t matter.

Multiple videos per week for almost 10 years might give you a good idea about someone and their character. Yes, people can fake things, but I don’t get that feeling with him. Also, you don’t have to agree with me ha.

When did you first hear about Nick?

I think the majority of people here who think he is on gear are the ones who never heard of him until he competed in triathlon and endurance sports. It’s easy to take one look at his YouTube thumbnails or IG post of his physique and claim not natty without seeing his documentation on social media and YT 8-10 years prior. My opinion, from following him all these years, is that he has too much integrity and dedication/consistency to use gear and not disclose it. No one has to agree with me though.

that can be said about lance. I will admit that even I fell for it

Are Nick and Lance performing at comparable levels?

yes… lance armstrong did 2:46 at NYC marathon but would probably not be able to budge the bar at the gym during that time.

yes… lance armstrong did 2:46 at NYC marathon but would probably not be able to budge the bar at the gym during that time.
I thought you meant Lance during his cycling.

The thing is Nicks body was built before this. He eats and fuels correctly and also still lifts to maintain.

I think the majority of people here who think he is on gear are the ones who never heard of him until he competed in triathlon and endurance sports. It’s easy to take one look at his YouTube thumbnails or IG post of his physique and claim not natty without seeing his documentation on social media and YT 8-10 years prior. My opinion, from following him all these years, is that he has too much integrity and dedication/consistency to use gear and not disclose it. No one has to agree with me though.

How in the hell do you have any idea about a random strangers level of ‘integrity’? This topic and this guy has been done to death, but as always there are people who think him along with the Rock are natty and nothing said will change their mind.

If you know you know, spend enough time around gyms and you will also…

My background before endurance sports was wrestling and bodybuilding (over 20 years). I assure you I have spent some time in gyms lol. I couldn’t care less about the Rock, I don’t follow him. Doesn’t matter.

Multiple videos per week for almost 10 years might give you a good idea about someone and their character. Yes, people can fake things, but I don’t get that feeling with him. Also, you don’t have to agree with me ha.

When did you first hear about Nick?

And yet you think this is natty, just hard work and good supplements eh…lol no chance…but anyways like I said nothing I nor anyone lese will say will likely change your mind so carry on…

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He is an ectomorph, to be able to put on that amount of muscle at that body fat naturally…lol…look at the before pic on the left…

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nah youre wrong. i read that he faces the north meridian at sun down every day and does a special chant ritual, helps keep the inflammation down.

I think the majority of people here who think he is on gear are the ones who never heard of him until he competed in triathlon and endurance sports. It’s easy to take one look at his YouTube thumbnails or IG post of his physique and claim not natty without seeing his documentation on social media and YT 8-10 years prior. My opinion, from following him all these years, is that he has too much integrity and dedication/consistency to use gear and not disclose it. No one has to agree with me though.

How in the hell do you have any idea about a random strangers level of ‘integrity’? This topic and this guy has been done to death, but as always there are people who think him along with the Rock are natty and nothing said will change their mind.

If you know you know, spend enough time around gyms and you will also…

My background before endurance sports was wrestling and bodybuilding (over 20 years). I assure you I have spent some time in gyms lol. I couldn’t care less about the Rock, I don’t follow him. Doesn’t matter.

Multiple videos per week for almost 10 years might give you a good idea about someone and their character. Yes, people can fake things, but I don’t get that feeling with him. Also, you don’t have to agree with me ha.

When did you first hear about Nick?

And yet you think this is natty, just hard work and good supplements eh…lol no chance…but anyways like I said nothing I nor anyone lese will say will likely change your mind so carry on…

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He is an ectomorph, to be able to put on that amount of muscle at that body fat naturally…lol…look at the before pic on the left…

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You didn’t answer my question. And like I said, you don’t have to agree. Call me naive. I just think you limit what the body can do naturally with years of consistent work towards specific goals.

That’s it for me, last time I went back and forth on this topic the thread got locked I think.

he has also deadlifted 600lb so this is a very impressive feat, go to the gym and report to us your numbers to get an understanding maybe instead of putting it down//

Really?? I have’nt put anyone down here, just commenting on the comparisons between weight lifters and runners. So you are saying that I now have to go to the gym and try and lift massive amount of weight, in order to have an opinion about this???

For the record I benched 280 in college during my swimming days, and then became a faster runner than Nick(and lot faster swimmer and biker), can I now have your permission to comment?

I used to go to YMCA gym with a lot of old folks bragging what they used to do, but never having proof, and current fitness/strength of and 8 year old female
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For me,the saddest thing about Slowtwitch is that people just don’t seem to want to actually know anything about the people who make up the legion of forum members. Perhaps if people here actually took the time to have an actual conversation with some of the prolific posters ,instead of immediately resorting to insults, they may find out some pretty cool things about those they are so quick to insult and dismiss. There are some amazing people here with great stories to tell but you wouldn’t know that these days.

A little about Monty here…and that only scratches the surface.
The first Kona Ironman: A retrospective blog (Part I) - Slowtwitch.com
The first Kona Ironman: A retrospective blog (Part II) - Slowtwitch.com
The first Kona Ironman: A retrospective blog (Part III) - Slowtwitch.com

What question? I don’t need to be following someone for years to recognize what someone on gear looks like…

Again, he is an ectomorph, look at any picture from when he was younger. No amount of dedication is going to get his results naturally. In its his best interest to sell the dream to gullible people like you in order to buy his supplements.

I used to go to YMCA gym with a lot of old folks bragging what they used to do, but never having proof, and current fitness/strength of and 8 year old female //

I imagine you fit in real nice with that group…

Lucky for me that I have 45 years of mostly recorded triathlon/multisport/individual racing to look back on. My college weight lifting is problematic to certify, but when I was 40 and did my big 40 hour birthday set, ESPN did capture my 40 bench reps of my body weight (165lbs) in 4 minutes(try it sometime, not as easy as it may sound)…But yes, perhaps now days I’m a shell of my former self, but still pushing the limits of my AG without the help of the HRT docs…

Mic 🎤 drop right here

To explain…

  1. Monty was a damn good athlete.
  2. Monty does not think he needs health and beauty tips from some young YouTube, social influencer.
    (Who is also a pretty good runner and weightlifter).

It is OK that you young guys are NOT super duper athletic.
(I myself was never nearly as good as I had hoped to be).

It is also OK that your wives, girlfriends and boyfriends are the breadwinners.

It is OK that you guys admire the health and beauty advice that Nick delivers.

I hope your wives, girlfriends and boyfriends admire the things you do to stay “fit”!

It’s just that this is not the way that men of Monty’s generation (or mine) think.

This is why we are mystified by this type of thread.
yeah (from the guy who’s bench PR is maybe 130!) Let’s hear it for old guys!
“The older I get,
The better I was.”

How’s this for a natural tough guy…
Jack LaLanne, seriously humbling.

Age 41 swam from Alcatraz to Pier 43, while handcuffed. How’s that for “escape from Alcatraz?”
At 60 he did it again, except he towed a 1,000 pound boat

To explain…

  1. Monty was a damn good athlete.
  2. Monty does not think he needs health and beauty tips from some young YouTube, social influencer.
    (Who is also a pretty good runner and weightlifter).

It is OK that you young guys are NOT super duper athletic.
(I myself was never nearly as good as I had hoped to be).

It is also OK that your wives, girlfriends and boyfriends are the breadwinners.

It is OK that you guys admire the health and beauty advice that Nick delivers.

I hope your wives, girlfriends and boyfriends admire the things you do to stay “fit”!

It’s just that this is not the way that men of Monty’s generation (or mine) think.

This is why we are mystified by this type of thread.
yeah (from the guy who’s bench PR is maybe 130!) Let’s hear it for old guys!
“The older I get,
The better I was.”

How’s this for a natural tough guy…
Jack LaLanne, seriously humbling.

Age 41 swam from Alcatraz to Pier 43, while handcuffed. How’s that for “escape from Alcatraz?”
At 60 he did it again, except he towed a 1,000 pound boat

Those were warm-ups for him

At 70 he towed 70 boats

Myth or real?

Well . . .

https://youtu.be/…?si=_856mMwp-0bsvrLi

he has also deadlifted 600lb so this is a very impressive feat, go to the gym and report to us your numbers to get an understanding maybe instead of putting it down//

Really?? I have’nt put anyone down here, just commenting on the comparisons between weight lifters and runners. So you are saying that I now have to go to the gym and try and lift massive amount of weight, in order to have an opinion about this???

For the record I benched 280 in college during my swimming days, and then became a faster runner than Nick(and lot faster swimmer and biker), can I now have your permission to comment?

I used to go to YMCA gym with a lot of old folks bragging what they used to do, but never having proof, and current fitness/strength of and 8 year old female
.
.
For me,the saddest thing about Slowtwitch is that people just don’t seem to want to actually know anything about the people who make up the legion of forum members. Perhaps if people here actually took the time to have an actual conversation with some of the prolific posters ,instead of immediately resorting to insults, they may find out some pretty cool things about those they are so quick to insult and dismiss. There are some amazing people here with great stories to tell but you wouldn’t know that these days.

A little about Monty here…and that only scratches the surface.
The first Kona Ironman: A retrospective blog (Part I) - Slowtwitch.com
The first Kona Ironman: A retrospective blog (Part II) - Slowtwitch.com
The first Kona Ironman: A retrospective blog (Part III) - Slowtwitch.com

I know exactly who Monty is. Doesn’t make Nick Bare any less impressive as an athlete when Monty wonders why people care about his results.

To explain…

  1. Monty was a damn good athlete.
  2. Monty does not think he needs health and beauty tips from some young YouTube, social influencer.
    (Who is also a pretty good runner and weightlifter).

It is OK that you young guys are NOT super duper athletic.
(I myself was never nearly as good as I had hoped to be).

It is also OK that your wives, girlfriends and boyfriends are the breadwinners.

It is OK that you guys admire the health and beauty advice that Nick delivers.

I hope your wives, girlfriends and boyfriends admire the things you do to stay “fit”!

It’s just that this is not the way that men of Monty’s generation (or mine) think.

This is why we are mystified by this type of thread.

Alex you are an interesting dude.

I guess this is where the difference comes in.

Speaking for myself I do not consider a 2:40 mara impressive given the level of access Bare has to supplements and who markets themselves as a sports medicine / performance nutrition expert. He is in his early 30s and being lauded for a 2:40 marathon. If he runs a 2:40 mara in 20 years that is a different story.

In YT terms, where NB is to the mara WR is where LS was to the 1500m front crawl WR 4-5 years.

I get it. He ran 2:39 at one of the fastest marathons in the country.

Things that impress me:

  1. he’s a lot bulkier than the average person running under 3hrs
  2. he ran an extremely consistent marathon, which is not easy and most people don’t do that, not even most people running under 2:40
  3. he seems like a nice guy, although he was annoying on Black Friday with his company’s “deals”

I’ve done a lot of racing over the years, and I think I can say that the number of times I’ve finished a race and said “I paced that great” is maybe once. A 5k. Half Ironmans, half marathons, marathons, Ironmans, etc. never done a great job. But that ONE 5k, ha!

that can be said about lance. I will admit that even I fell for it

Not you! oh… the ego lol. Don’t take this the wrong way, but if you fell for that…guaranteed, you are falling…and will fall for a lot of stuff.

Here is a hint: most weightlifters that juice will tell you that they are natural.

I’ve done a lot of racing over the years, and I think I can say that the number of times I’ve finished a race and said “I paced that great” is maybe once. A 5k. Half Ironmans, half marathons, marathons, Ironmans, etc. never done a great job. But that ONE 5k, ha! //

I hear you brother, I have blown up and limped in more times than I can count. Maybe out of the 1000+ Multisport races I have done, I paced it perfect maybe 30 times. But I do have to say that if I had this little watch that I wear on my wrist now everyday, I would have done much better in a lot of those races, especially the running ones. I would say about 5% of the old time running races had accurate mile markers, so forget about checking your pace, and when we did finally have HR monitors, it took awhile to figure them out and how to use them on racedays…My little 6 week 40mpw marathon experiment during the beginning of the Tri season might have been just a wee bit faster. But looking back I’m kind of glad I had no information other than how I felt, and running with a pack of old dudes that passed me at mile 10 doing 5;40 pace. Nick ran a great even race, the kind to be proud of for sure. But when you look at all those even splits, could he have gone faster and still held on? That was the question we got to ask over and over of ourselves in those old days, and it usually got answered on the race course. I went from a 2;32 pace at mile 24, to finishing in a 2;36. Yes the 40mpw was problematic, but I got to answer that question and was quite happy later that I did.

The new tech is great and has advanced the sport and times tremendously. But sometimes I really enjoy watching someone race old school, throw it all out the window, and just race the racers. It mostly happens in ITU these days, no time to check the stats, just hang until you can’t anymore, and let the chips fall where the fall…Ha! another ST tangent and not one mention of, well you know who…(-;