Nick Bare goes 11:28 @ IMFL in first IM with no background in swimming or biking

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Imagine what Slowtwitch would have been like when Armstrong landed on the moon… “its really not that special, I know a guy who flew to Mars on a hang glider, and held his breath the whole way”…

The amount of 1-uppers on this site is crazy. Everyone’s a ceo banging 10s

I don’t think it is that, I think this a fantastic effort, but genuinely just not that impressive.

In my view, people on this forum greatly over emphasise the important of weight for non-competitive age groupers, probably because they are naturally smaller or at the sharp end of their age group.

I became interested in the idea of doing a Ironman, I was muscular and 210 pounds at 6ft 3.5, had never done a triathlon, had just bought a road bike, had never swum OW, had never run more than a half marathon. I downloaded a plan off the internet, read some books, spoke to people I knew were quick, committed to training and prepared diligently. I did some halfs for practice (4:51 and 4:45) and ended up doing a 10.35 in Italy on a road bike with clip ons.

Now I have some experience, I’m slightly lighter, I’ve got a TT bike, I’ll be aiming to get to the sharper end of my age group. But I still see strength and height as an asset as opposed to a hindrance and it is probably one of the factors allowing me to be strong on the bike and quickly get up to a 357 FTP which is still rising. I know on the run it is a different story.

Once you take away the weight element of Nick’s story, you have a guy who is new to Triathlon doing a 11:28, a great effort, but not spectacular.

I recognise this post might come across as massively self indulgent but hopefully that background illustrates my point.

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Imagine what Slowtwitch would have been like when Armstrong landed on the moon… “its really not that special, I know a guy who flew to Mars on a hang glider, and held his breath the whole way”…

The amount of 1-uppers on this site is crazy. Everyone’s a ceo banging 10s

I don’t think it is that, I think this a fantastic effort, but genuinely just not that impressive.

In my view, people on this forum greatly over emphasise the important of weight for non-competitive age groupers, probably because they are naturally smaller or at the sharp end of their age group.

I became interested in the idea of doing a Ironman, I was muscular and 210 pounds at 6ft 3.5, had never done a triathlon, had just bought a road bike, had never swum OW, had never run more than a half marathon. I downloaded a plan off the internet, read some books, spoke to people I knew were quick, committed to training and prepared diligently. I did some halfs for practice (4:51 and 4:45) and ended up doing a 10.35 in Italy on a road bike with clip ons.

Now I have some experience, I’m slightly lighter, I’ve got a TT bike, I’ll be aiming to get to the sharper end of my age group. But I still see strength and height as an asset as opposed to a hindrance and it is probably one of the factors allowing me to be strong on the bike and quickly get up to a 357 FTP which is still rising. I know on the run it is a different story.

Once you take away the weight element of Nick’s story, you have a guy who is new to Triathlon doing a 11:28, a great effort, but not spectacular.

I recognise this post might come across as massively self indulgent but hopefully that background illustrates my point.

The irony of this post… Oh my lordy
…

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Imagine what Slowtwitch would have been like when Armstrong landed on the moon… “its really not that special, I know a guy who flew to Mars on a hang glider, and held his breath the whole way”…

The amount of 1-uppers on this site is crazy. Everyone’s a ceo banging 10s

I don’t think it is that, I think this a fantastic effort, but genuinely just not that impressive.

In my view, people on this forum greatly over emphasise the important of weight for non-competitive age groupers, probably because they are naturally smaller or at the sharp end of their age group.

I became interested in the idea of doing a Ironman, I was muscular and 210 pounds at 6ft 3.5, had never done a triathlon, had just bought a road bike, had never swum OW, had never run more than a half marathon. I downloaded a plan off the internet, read some books, spoke to people I knew were quick, committed to training and prepared diligently. I did some halfs for practice (4:51 and 4:45) and ended up doing a 10.35 in Italy on a road bike with clip ons.

Now I have some experience, I’m slightly lighter, I’ve got a TT bike, I’ll be aiming to get to the sharper end of my age group. But I still see strength and height as an asset as opposed to a hindrance and it is probably one of the factors allowing me to be strong on the bike and quickly get up to a 357 FTP which is still rising. I know on the run it is a different story.

Once you take away the weight element of Nick’s story, you have a guy who is new to Triathlon doing a 11:28, a great effort, but not spectacular.

I recognise this post might come across as massively self indulgent but hopefully that background illustrates my point.

The irony of this post… Oh my lordy
…

It wasn’t lost on me, refer to the final sentence. My point still stands…

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One interesting point is that Nick Bare never said he finished fast. Never even bragged about finishing.

He just made a video journal of his training and the race.

Typical ST going on the attack on a guy. At least he wasn’t using fins.

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He just ran a sub 3 hour marathon
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Pretty, pretty, pretty good.

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Time? Was it an official sanction race?

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I started following Nick Bare when Triathlon Taren mentioned him in a video. I gotta say, I was hugely skeptical of this guy’s chances of completing an Ironman but after watching his training series on his YouTube channel and seeing this results, I’m blown away.

He could barely swim in June, bought an entry level tri-bike and didn’t even know how to change a tire, but followed his training plan religiously and showed up ready. Anyone else impressed by this? Reminds me what really matters, consistency and fortitude.

Given, the conditions at IMFL were pretty favorable, still a huge accomplishment to go under 12 hours in your first triathlon.

I have to say I’m not.

I’m a MOP athlete, my first year of any sport was 2007. I was running from January, bought the bike in May, ran a M in June, did an Oly July, HIM in August and two weeks after that my first IM in 11:18

No heart rate or power, no training plans, just training for enjoyment.

I then took over ten years to beat that time despite having loads of gear, training plans and tools.

Far too much is made of the distance and training / equipment requirements.

If you’re just active and healthy, you’ll do ok.

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No, its a course he set up, largely down hill, we don’t know for sure if it was the distance
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No, its a course he set up, largely down hill, we don’t know for sure if it was the distance

Do we know it was largely downhill? I would have expected a 4x10km course kind of thing?

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No, its a course he set up, largely down hill, we don’t know for sure if it was the distance

Do we know it was largely downhill? I would have expected a 4x10km course kind of thing?

It wasn’t largely downhill. It’s on strava. Net 50 feet downhill. It does look like most of the downhill was in the second half of the race. That was smart.

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Honestly unsurprised at his running ability. He was an Infantry Officer and a Ranger School Graduate. I was an Armor Officer, and the amount of running I did was a lot. The amount of running the Infantry tends to do, even in an Armored Infantry unit is A LOT to BIZARRE.

EricMPro and I have talked about this a bunch on the board. The guy has YEARS of running stimulus in his body.

Also, looking at his rig now, he’s downsized significantly. He may look huge, but he’s just shredded. Which takes a lot of work. But it’s great marketing for his supplement company.

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he did it in the nike % bounce shoes. for lightweight runner maybe makes someone 5-10 min faster in marathon. for heavy runner like him prevents more degradation, making him 20 min faster. He is a 3:15 guy, which is still a good effort.

i came from the world of powerlifting. these shoes are akin do the bench press shirt days. where the records broke over 1000lb, yet unassisted bench press stuck at 700ish for decades.

what the powerlifting world did is make different categories… raw, equipped, tested/untested.

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we get it. you dont like the nike shoes. horse has been dead for a long time

give it a rest

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I don’t have skin in this game one way or another, but I checked the course after he completed it.

It was an official “race” and was USATF certified, TX21008LAB

https://www.certifiedroadraces.com/certificate/?type=m&id=760

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I don’t have skin in this game one way or another, but I checked the course after he completed it.

It was an official “race” and was USATF certified, TX21008LAB

https://www.certifiedroadraces.com/...e/?type=m&id=760

you can run a certified course, but if its not sanctioned result doesnt count for certain things (records, boston maybe real lax on this)

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he did it in the nike % bounce shoes. for lightweight runner maybe makes someone 5-10 min faster in marathon. for heavy runner like him prevents more degradation, making him 20 min faster. He is a 3:15 guy, which is still a good effort.

i came from the world of powerlifting. these shoes are akin do the bench press shirt days. where the records broke over 1000lb, yet unassisted bench press stuck at 700ish for decades.

what the powerlifting world did is make different categories… raw, equipped, tested/untested.

There’s zero science that states the shoes improve running economy to the tune of 11% which is what you’re suggesting with those numbers.

And the original 4% was not 4% more than other shoes on the market either it was a couple of percentages over other current racers.

But I’m sure you know this.

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he did it in the nike % bounce shoes. for lightweight runner maybe makes someone 5-10 min faster in marathon. for heavy runner like him prevents more degradation, making him 20 min faster. He is a 3:15 guy, which is still a good effort.
Please post several results of runners who dropped their PR from 3:15 to 2:56 by wearing Vaporflys.

Thanks. I’ll wait.

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What’s your PR for running to your computer any time you hear someone did anything in Vaporfly’s?

If you ran in Vaporfly’s, I bet you could get there faster. :wink:

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So he actually just did a fair effort on a fair course, and people might be a bit jealous he can do it, have a multimillion dollar company too. Basically just living the dream.
He has that elite .entality dedication to succeed.