Anyone follow the yesterday’s primaries? Thoughts. Appears the TEA party/anti incumbent sentiment is alive and well…
I have a real dislike of Carly Fiorina due to some things that went on at HP (I had friends there during her stewardship). I can’t understand anyone voting for her, but I’m not in California.
The tea-party types all got trounced here back in May, so I guess their success is regional. One of them is making a play for Souder’s seat (resigning due to an affair), so they may have an impact here after all.
Carly was floundering among three good candidates until Palin endorsed her.
The NV GOP senatorial candidate was in third place until she got the tea party endorsement in the final days.
We had a couple of tea party inspired candidates winning local state and congress races.
Not in Virginia - while not an incumbent, the elected conservative has been sitting in state legislature since 2002. There were multiple candidates (something like 10 or so), many of whom were far more tea party types, though everybody was citing some of their memes (god knows there was tons of stupidity around flat taxing). Turnout was very tepid, even though Pierello has been considered a weak sitting democrat.
The conservatives in this district are shooting themselves in the foot in several ways. First, of all the methods they could have used to decide who would run in the upcoming House election, they chose to do it as a primary - at taxpayers cost. Most other districts were using something more akin to a convention, which would have been funded by the party. Not good to be sucking up taxpayer money when you had a choice not to. The number of candidates really distilled the options, which I think hurt the ability to set apart a sitting, rather standard politician from the more populous movements. Finally, there is another person who is considering running as an independent on a Tea party platform - whihc will do nothing but split the conservative vote. While he is correct in that Hurt doesn’t meet the “conservative enough” standard that is being put forward, splitting the vote will pretty much ensure a re-election of Pierello.
Anyhow - just the view from my local district.
Not sure the return of Lincoln helps the argument either.
it looked to me like the opposite - incumbents did pretty well, and the tea baggers got it handed to them. Is there an article that summarizes all the races?
**Appears the TEA party/anti incumbent sentiment is alive and well… **
People are pretty dumb.
Everyone runs on the “anti-existing party” theme and they always have. Once in power, there are no TEA partiers, mavericks or any such nonsense, they just become the same person they initially ran against.
Don't know lots about Fiorina, but from what I've picked up about her departure from HP, it seems like one of those we'll pay you to go away agreements. Have seen that happen in my own company, and it was an expensive way to get rid of incompetence. shrug.
Lincoln won against a harder left Soros/SEIU supported candidate, so while an incumbent, even the dems there (by small margin) said they did not want to take their chances in the general with a far left candidate.
I am also using the TEA party description to describe any winner that tended to be less govt. types vs their opposition. Harry Reid seems happy to have the match-up against his (truly) TEA party opponent though, so we'll see how that works out for pubs in november.
**Appears the TEA party/anti incumbent sentiment is alive and well… **
People are pretty dumb.
Everyone runs on the “anti-existing party” theme and they always have. Once in power, there are no TEA partiers, mavericks or any such nonsense, they just become the same person they initially ran against.
Totally disagree…oh, wait, knee-jerk reaction. I think you’re right, that’s how we got Obama, “change!”. The old “I’m not him” ploy.
If nothing else, it was nice to see some citizen type people run in the primary rather than the prototype pedigree candidate generated by the central committee.
If nothing else, it was nice to see some citizen type people run in the primary rather than the prototype pedigree candidate generated by the central committee.
Yeah, regular citizen folk like meg Whitman who spend $71 million of her own money to buy errr win the republican primary in California. How many millions from her own purse did regular citizen Fiornia spend to buy, errr win, her primary? Yeah, we need more regular folk like that running for office.
One think I will give you, they are both pretty regular citizens in one reagard. Neither of them has bothered to vote very much.
Don't know lots about Fiorina, but from what I've picked up about her departure from HP, it seems like one of those **we'll pay you to go away agreements**...
It’s too bad we haven’t been able to do that with Boxer in the past…
I wasn’t even thinking of that race. I was thinking of the local races where be had regular joe farmers or business people running sometimes 2 and 3 deep. Usually what you get for a candidate is the aid for congressman hornblower who now thinks it is his turn or someone who went from city council, to county supervisor to assembly etc.
Back to the gov. race. Are you excited with the prospect of another Brown governorship?
If nothing else, it was nice to see some citizen type people run in the primary rather than the prototype pedigree candidate generated by the central committee.
Yeah, regular citizen folk like meg Whitman who spend $71 million of her own money to buy errr win the republican primary in California. How many millions from her own purse did regular citizen Fiornia spend to buy, errr win, her primary? Yeah, we need more regular folk like that running for office.
One think I will give you, they are both pretty regular citizens in one reagard. Neither of them has bothered to vote very much.
Wait, wait, wait … I want to let this one digest 'cause it is TOO funny! So, with too much money, one is not a Regular Joe, correct?
Ok. So, millionaire Obama is just “Barry from the Block,” right?
Bwaaaaaaahhhhhhhaaaaaaahhhhaaaaaaa!
If nothing else, it was nice to see some citizen type people run in the primary rather than the prototype pedigree candidate generated by the central committee.
Fiorina and Whitman are about as far from “citizen type people” as you can get. They are the most elite of the elites, having held top positions at some of the most powerful corporation in the world, and wielding vast personal fortunes. And schooled at Harvard, Stanford, and MIT.
I’m not suggesting that’s a negative. It’s just a fact.
Your just upset because in CA the Dems are the Party of old white men, and the GOP has two women.
I really like Jerry Brown. I couldn’t fix Oakland, but I can run a state!
Your just upset because in CA the Dems are the Party of old white men, and the GOP has two women.
I really like Jerry Brown. I couldn’t fix Oakland, but I can run a state!
Do you notice how Brown is running on his record as the Mayor of Oakland…as opposed to mentioning that he actually WAS Governor once before?? I guess he doesn’t want to run on that record…
. Are you excited with the prospect of another Brown governorship?
He annihilates Whitman according to your “regular citizen” test, according to the Wikipedia blurb on his time as Governor:
“Upon election, he refused many of the privileges and trappings of the office, forgoing the newly constructed governor’s residence (which was sold in 1983) and instead renting a modest apartment at the corner of 14th and N Streets, adjacent to Capitol Park in downtown Sacramento. Instead of riding as a passenger in chauffeured limousines as previous governors had done, Brown was driven to work in a compact sedan, a Plymouth Satellite.”
In the “political criticism” section the primary criticism is that he refused to increase spending when revenues rose, resulting in a $5B budget surplus.
And Jello Biafra doesn’t think he’s so bad after all.
That doesn’t sound all that bad, honestly. The Tea Party better start motivating their Wikipedia editors.
Well here in CA and it looks like NV, the tea partiers did well in the republican races, but in the end they just put up the weakest canditates for the general election. I guess you can say they have been sucessful in splitting the republican party, but for the dems it is a wet dream come true. All the canditates they would have wanted to win, did so. I do not know what the republicans are thinking here, you cannot have these wingnuts do well in a general in CA. Perhaps in some other states, but there wackiness will not go unnoticed here with the majority independent party. Meg and Carly can spend 300 million if they want to, they are dead in the water before they even leave the shore. The flew to the right to get their nominations I guess, but that will haunt them til Nov. It is a conundrum for them I guess, first you have to win your parties primary, and to do that you have to swing all the way to the tea party right, but then you are in a state that drinks coffee, not tea…
Well here in CA and it looks like NV, the tea partiers did well in the republican races, but in the end they just put up the weakest canditates for the general election. I guess you can say they have been sucessful in splitting the republican party, but for the dems it is a wet dream come true. All the canditates they would have wanted to win, did so. I do not know what the republicans are thinking here, you cannot have these wingnuts do well in a general in CA. Perhaps in some other states, but there wackiness will not go unnoticed here with the majority independent party. Meg and Carly can spend 300 million if they want to, they are dead in the water before they even leave the shore. The flew to the right to get their nominations I guess, but that will haunt them til Nov. It is a conundrum for them I guess, first you have to win your parties primary, and to do that you have to swing all the way to the tea party right, but then you are in a state that drinks coffee, not tea…
Don’t you mean “Starbuck’s Frappacinos”? 
Don’t you mean “Starbuck’s Frappacinos”?
Now way man, Peets heavy mud all the way…