Seen at the Shanghai Bike Show 2025 on now
Canyon+Trek+BMC (all rolled into one by the looks of it)
Saw it on a facebook feed, can’t find any other info on it.
Seen at the Shanghai Bike Show 2025 on now
Canyon+Trek+BMC (all rolled into one by the looks of it)
Saw it on a facebook feed, can’t find any other info on it.
A touch of QR VPRi too!
Good looking bike
Is that an enormous hydration bladder inside the triangle? Also has a toolbox integrated in the triangle.
I’m a bit of a sucker for trying out Chinese bikes and gear. So I immediately reached out to Hongfu after seeing this post. The bike will be available for purchase in 2025, direct from Hongfu.
I asked for some more details like geometry, tire clearance, handlebar setup, storage, etcetera but haven’t gotten a response yet.
Will update once they respond.
i wrote this article 10 years ago. i hope things have progressed well at hongfu. having had my own factories, making my own products (bikes included) i know how hard that business can be. but good customer service, good warranties and return policies, good communication, that is not hard. i trust hongfu has sharpened their game in these areas. just, if you read that article i wrote i asked hongfu a number of questions and to my recollection they didn’t get answered. seems to me fair questions to ask and you may want to ask them yourself if a purchase of that bike is in your future.
Thanks for sharing! Always interesting to read some real world feedback.
I also frequent Chinertown a lot (forum based around open moulds and other Chinese bike products. It’s a great resource) and HongFu seems to be regarded as a “reputable seller” with a lot of positive feedback. Especially when it comes to road, gravel and MTB frames. I also own 2 chinese open mould bikes.
However, I think your article hits the nail on the head, a TT bike is a VERY complicated bike. A lot can go wrong, more than a road bike. So you should probably think twice, and be very aware of the risks before taking the plunge.
They responded with some more pictures and a geometry chart.
What do you guys think of the geometry?
Top tube and reach look longer in comparison to other frames.
I have had an open mould before. ! have always found them a little on the heavy side and put that down to extra carbon layer-up, instead of R&D.
Did they give any info on frame and fork weight?
Yeah, I thought the same about the geo, but given that everybody is trying to get more reach. The long top tube a steep STA seems pretty modern?
I’m definitely no expert, I have zero experience actually riding a TT-rig. Would love some insight from the actual experts on the forum.
Regarding weight. I asked about weight, tire clearance, handlebar setup and the storage box and only got the geo chart and some pictures back. This is why the communication is so difficult and slow with these companies
Yes. is what everyone is looking for, so it is good in that respect.
Also that the frame hydration tank is removable, which will be beneficial for shorter distances if you only want to race with bottles.
And no idea on price?
I just looked at their site and the previous model frame-only is going for $1800 USD. I’d guess $23-2500 USD for this one, but that’s purely speculative.
Okay, I’ll chime in.
This is the frame I talked about in a previous thread.
I designed this geometry and made the frame so that it works very well with a lot of positions and fit’s.
I have taken a lot of ideas and features from other bikes that worked and integrated it all in to 1 frame.
The factory asked me to give them a very good geo that could work with modern triathlon positions and in the end the frame itself should be also UCI legal. Because TT is a thing in Asia.
After the design I partnerd with Joshua from Culprit, who I know because we sell a lot of his CSR armpads. Together we designed a whole new cockpit that gives reach options that are so far more adjustable then anything that is currently on the market. These extra options, will be available on the bike under my brand and are currently being tested. The options will go much longer in reach but also if you want to ride with shorter reach.
We are testing it in different materials as well.
This bike with our cockpit can have pad reach limits like no other on the market and creates a very good position. The idea was to prove and show that you can get fast on a 6K 105 Di2 equiped bike with race ready wheels and no extra need for after market parts.
I have been riding this bike with our cockpit add on’s for a while now and I can tell it is lighter then my Cadex. When we decide after the final testing on what material we are going to use for the production parts I can share final weight.
But it turned out much lighter then expected.
There are a small few incorrect measurements in the geo chart that should be adjusted and, yes, it is longer, but still handles very very well. It is much more nimble then what you would expect and is crazy stable in the aerobar position.
To give you an impression on pad reach. My saddle height is 78 cm, armpad drop 85-90 mm, aerobar angle 23 degrees. The drop doesn’t seem that big but I can tell you the fit is aero. Read that I wrote the fit. It is fast and aero due to the fact that it allows me to set it up aero, so it is the combo of all parts, rider, bike, helmet and adjustability of parts in a way they interact the right way together. Something that I haven’t been able to tick all boxes. So I’m not saying the bike itself isn’t aero but for now I say it is really the sum of all parts that makes it fast. And in the next few months I will share more data to prove it can be as fast or faster then bikes that cost twice as much. Again as a whole package of rider and equipment.
I ride the BiSaddle SRT2.0 which is only a 22 cm long saddle. I have set it up now at 45 mm behind bb and sit on the saddle nose. If I measure now saddle nose to back of pad I get 57 cm but still have more reach left, at least another 20 mm.
The fun thing is I can now ride on the place on the saddle weher I would like to ride it and have not restriction in reach at all. I have still room left, not that I need it but I could. There will be a few other cool options for this bike I cannot disclose yet that might want me to use the extra reach left.
It is a fun project so far, some things need to be fine tuned, like the bottle that is still just a 3D printed piece but that will happen in the next few weeks.
The factory was very open minded and listened to a lot of my ideas and changes, I do think I drove them crazy sometimes.
The cockpit parts that were created mostly by Joshua/Culprit turned out really well with very nice Di2 wire solutions and the cool part is how these different parts interact with eachother.
When we are done testing in the next couple of weeks I will share more info.
Jeroen
I definitely found the wrong bike online.
That’s very cool Jeroen, thanks for sharing this info.
Thanks for the details and feedback. Looking forward to getting more details.
Sounds like it has been a fun project as you say.
I recently tested this bike in the Netherlands. It did well !
My biz partner is doing IM Canada and I wanted to get this bike as a summer project to get him optimized.
As I tested it, which may be different than the factory version, it ticked all the boxes. I do need reach.
Now, if only I can get my hands on one
Sounds really promising!
What would be really great is to have a graph showing the max and min pad stack and reach for each frame size. I’ve often seen it done with rectangles color coded by frame size. I would need an XL frame with high pad stack with my fit - very few top frames have this capability without expensive aftermarket front ends.
Did I mention ease of travel? Just two bolts and you can take the whole cockpit from the base bar. Also angle adjustment, just two bolts.
Jeroen
I’m working on that. It is just that our season starts here now and business is super busy.
But in the next few weeks hopefully I can provide it to you all.
Jeroen
Super cool Jeroen. I’ve been excited to see what bike you were talking about, but it’s awesome to see that you (and Culprit) were actually involved in it. Keep us posted!
I will toot their horn since it’s not in his nature to do so, but they are going beyond what the factory will offer.
I personally would not order a bike from HongFu mostly around support, quality assurance…many of the things brought up in the past and that Dan covered. I’d order the ++ version of the bike.