Hed Clincher Issues

My week had been going perfectly, including the arrival f my Hed Jet 6/9 C2 clinchers at my LBS. I picked them, a pair of Conti Attack/Force tires, and a 4-pack of tubes up, headed home, and started assembly. The rear wheel went together without a hitch…until I started working on the front wheel: POW! Tube in the rear wheel blows. I finish the front, set it aside and start working on replacing the tube from the rear wheel. POW! Front wheel blows.

WTF?

This is my first experience with deep-dish clinchers, and I presumed there was nothing special involved. Was I wrong? Anyone else have similar experiences?

did you put rim tape on em?

are you using latex tubes?

what kinda flats? pinch flats?

My week had been going perfectly, including the arrival f my Hed Jet 6/9 C2 clinchers at my LBS. I picked them, a pair of Conti Attack/Force tires, and a 4-pack of tubes up, headed home, and started assembly. The rear wheel went together without a hitch…until I started working on the front wheel: POW! Tube in the rear wheel blows. I finish the front, set it aside and start working on replacing the tube from the rear wheel. POW! Front wheel blows.

WTF?

This is my first experience with deep-dish clinchers, and I presumed there was nothing special involved. Was I wrong? Anyone else have similar experiences?

Odds are 99% it is operator error of some sort.

I,too, am sure the problem lies somewhere between the wheel and the chair. Will return to the LBS with my wheels, tail firmly placed betwixt my legs.

Interesting…I got mine Jet9 Flame Rouge wheels delivered yesterday. Very exciting times…you do realize they don’t come with rim tape installed?

They’re wider rims and the spoke holes span a wider path around the rim. You can’t use standard road rim tape. Use mtb rim tape or, better yet, veloplugs.
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Bob, you find a source for the larger diameter plugs? I’ve used them on some other wheels and like ‘em, but the holes in my new C2 are too big so I just used a fat strip of good ol’ Velox which has worked fine other than the extra thickness exacerbating the tightness of the tire/rim bead intial install. Would like to replace w/ something thinner/lighter at the next convenient opportunity, however. Tried googling but couldn’t find anything domestically.

My understanding is that you don’t need to use rim tape on these. Some talc powder to avoid the tube from folding on itself or sticking to the rim and you’re good to go.

No way. They have spoke holes just like every other wheel. You definitely need rim tape of some sort.

all clincher rims need rim tape and it’s not just about spoke holes. i have rim tape on my full carbon clincher disc.

the last thing you want is the tube melting onto the rim over time from heat exposure.

Bob,

have you used veloplugs successfully with latex inner tubes? i’ve heard a lot of anecdotal evidence that the latex is too elastic and works its way under the edge of the plugs and pinches flat, and some people say veloplugs can only work with butyl tubes.

I just had some Jet 6s and 9s arrive, all C2s. One with a Powertap, which I was anxious to try. I put together without rim tape, which I didn’t have on hand and blew out the first tube I installed. Next day I went to my LBS and installed rim tape and all has been perfect.

They’re wider rims and the spoke holes span a wider path around the rim. You can’t use standard road rim tape. Use mtb rim tape or, better yet, veloplugs.
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I’ve tried both the yellow and red veloplugs on my Jet 60 C2 and Jet disk. The holes are just the wrong size for either veloplug.

I also had early problems with narrow rim tape exposing the edge of the spoke hole and pinching the tube. I ended up using wider Velox cloth tape and have had no further problems. But, the wide velox tape is heavy and highly air permeable. So, I’ve noticed that the tire loses air more quickly with latex tubes and velox than with other less permeable tapes.

Ok I gotta be picky. How does one pinch flat an unridden wheel? :wink:

Styrrell

a pinch flat describes the way the tube is pinched into generating a tear in the wall. you don’t have to ride it to do that. :wink:

any chance you found wider (22mm) non-cloth rim tape?

any chance you found wider (22mm) non-cloth rim tape?

I tried the Vittoria wide rim “band”. It’s one piece, not an adhesive tape, and I think it’s made of nylon. Anyway, it was wide enough, but would not stay centered over the holes. It would crease, fold, and squirm around every time I changed a tire.

So, I’m still using the cloth tape and looking for better solutions. I might drill out the spoke holes slightly to take the bigger veloplugs, but I hate to take a drill to my $$$ wheels. I also considered gluing in the smaller veloplugs, but that seemed kind of kludgey.

any chance you found wider (22mm) non-cloth rim tape?

I tried the Vittoria wide rim “band”. It’s one piece, not an adhesive tape, and I think it’s made of nylon. Anyway, it was wide enough, but would not stay centered over the holes. It would crease, fold, and squirm around every time I changed a tire.

So, I’m still using the cloth tape and looking for better solutions. I might drill out the spoke holes slightly to take the bigger veloplugs, but I hate to take a drill to my $$$ wheels. I also considered gluing in the smaller veloplugs, but that seemed kind of kludgey.
try veloplugs and rox rim tape- i have had good success with several HED wheels with this method. However- my JET 60- does not seem to like it for some reason… so i switched to velox type rim tape

try veloplugs and rox rim tape- i have had good success with several HED wheels with this method. However- my JET 60- does not seem to like it for some reason… so i switched to velox type rim tape

Do you mean tape over the velolugs? Isn’t that kind of redundant redundant? :wink:

ok I’m hearing Velox Rim Tape again and again…

I like the idea of drilling out the holes for the 8.5-10mm veloplugs…drillium! Maybe after a few bottles of wine I’ll find the courage.