You may be right, but I have three questions about your analysis. First, since it is a road race, rather than allow a 1 meter gap to develop on a climb, most riders will fight to stay on the wheel of the rider in front – extra weight will place an extra toll on the legs of the racer.
Yes, in this case a very very small one, ignoring the fact that aerodynamic benefits are still there, even uphill.
That toll is insignificant unless you get dropped or don’t have the legs to sprint at the finish. Second, the weight difference would be more like 500 grams with decent (but not outrageous expensive) set of low profile clinchers.
Sure, but you could also get a lighter deep wheel than the hed jet.
Third, with four girls in lead pack for a while, then three, how much time is spend in wind?
the power numbers are ridiculous, no matter who used them in what presentation. ametuers do not climb at 250w, unless they are playing “piano” and just riding back to their car to go homePros in the TDF often ride up longer climbs at tempo, or 80% of FTP. If pros can do it why is it inconceivable that amateurs would? Maybe not in a short race but in a longer race or stage it doesn’t seem unreasonable.
races amatuers do, generally do not have those kind of climbs(length) huge difference between 10-25km at 8% and 1km at 10%
i have never experienced(ok, portions of, yes), in a race, a climb where the group went up at 80% ftp(that is all day ride effort) there would be no point in trying to put hills in a race if we all rode like that. now if the rider we are referring to, just wants to cross the finish line and not worry about placing, then fine, I’ll buy in, but around here, the billygoats like to asert themselves as many times they don’t have the capacity to sprint effectively at the end
I was at around 2 or 3x my ftp up those climbs in the state road race
SO MUCH PAIN
races amatuers do, generally do not have those kind of climbs(length) huge difference between 10-25km at 8% and 1km at 10%
i have never experienced(ok, portions of, yes), in a race, a climb where the group went up at 80% ftp(that is all day ride effort) there would be no point in trying to put hills in a race if we all rode like that. now if the rider we are referring to, just wants to cross the finish line and not worry about placing, then fine, I’ll buy in, but around here, the billygoats like to asert themselves as many times they don’t have the capacity to sprint effectively at the end
races amatuers do, generally do not have those kind of climbs(length) huge difference between 10-25km at 8% and 1km at 10%
i have never experienced(ok, portions of, yes), in a race, a climb where the group went up at 80% ftp(that is all day ride effort) there would be no point in trying to put hills in a race if we all rode like that. now if the rider we are referring to, just wants to cross the finish line and not worry about placing, then fine, I’ll buy in, but around here, the billygoats like to asert themselves as many times they don’t have the capacity to sprint effectively at the end
Yes BUT, we are only talking about 200-300 grams! I get what you’re saying, but I think you’re still ignoring the math and the (in)significance of the extra weight.
the power numbers are ridiculous, no matter who used them in what presentation. ametuers do not climb at 250w, unless they are playing “piano” and just riding back to their car to go home
The Col de Tipping point was based on an Etape du Tour sportive, not a typical road race course. I can’t remember the course profile, but it was more on the Marmotte level. The Marmotte has >15000 feet vertical in 105 odd miles. In this case holding 250 W over 5 or so hours of climbing isn’t so bad.
There’s not really any argument - at least a compelling one - to not use deep wheels. Aside from training wheels, 404s are the lowest profile race hoops in my quiver.
