Does anyone know what this bike will be coming with for the $6800? I’m waiting for a 51cm, and am trying to figure out what wheels and bars it will have and what I will need to upgrade (I know the componentry is SRAM Red). Also, I may elect to keep the wheels it comes with as training/beater wheels. Thanks.
I emailed Cervelo a while ago asking the same thing. I was told that the components will be very similar to the P3, as far as the bars, wheels, brakeset, etc. I can’t remember if the bars will be carbon or aluminum though. Overall the kit will be almost the same as the P3, at least that is what I was told at that time, and they did say “subject to change”
While I know most are buying the bike for its frame/fork, but you gave someone (or commited to) $6800 without knowing any of the parts?
Styrrell
I have a $2500 deposit, which if I don’t want the bike I don’t believe I have to buy it. It would be easy enough for them to sell it to someone else, I know it’s gotten some criticism, but let’s be honest, this thing is in hot demand. Also, as you stated, I am buying the bike primarily for the frame/fork.
I’m not questioning you, actually more Cervelo. It seems by the time they set the price that the spec would be set. I could see bar tape or something minor being changed on the fly but components, wheels, bar, seat I would think would have to be decided on before they would price the bike.
Styrrell
oh, i agree completely. i’ve been waiting since november and assumed they would disclose what it would have by december or so. I think it is a January launch anyway, aren’t there some floating around already?!
anyways, i have an email in to cervelo, if i hear anything i’ll post it here.
Why not just get the frame and build the bike the way you want it instead of getting a bunch of parts that you have to turn around and sell?
it just further proves that Cervelo can do whatever they want…drop down a few components to increase their own profit margins while keeping the MSRP the same. And suckers will still buy it.
now, now, no need to be jealous that some of us will ride such a fast bike. it says nothing to us being “suckers” but it does show that we have confidence in the brand. hey, if they can sell it, who cares what they do? they’ve earned the right as i see it.
also, as to building it from a frame vs. the complete bike, the only things i’ll change are the wheels and bars, so it’ll be cheaper just to swap than to build from scratch.
Once again I need to remind others that this bike has not proven it can be a winner yet in real life, lets not give it more credit then it deserves until the wins start piling up…
jealous? hardly.
that is meaningless really. The rider on the bike will make the win…the bike is a tool that will maximize your performance and this is where cervelo is best at. where the p4 needs to be proven is in the windtunnel and people at SDLSWT have seen the numbers. As for the other aspect… it will be very very similar in weight, stifness and compliance as the p3 and ride pretty much the same as it as the same geometry.
If cervelo decided to spend there research budget on pro triathlete and sign macca crowie, sindballe, and a few others…yep…they would get a few ironman hawaii win on perhaps a bike not as good for the lack of research…but do you prefer that or that they invest all the sponsorship money instead into developpement of bike that will be usefull to everyone age group also.
The p4 will be a great machine. it as only compete in 1 race so far and it was a silver at world championship…
I know, those capitalist pig dogs…from Canada no less.
Someone point me to the non profit bike companies, i want to pick up a new frame.
it just further proves that Cervelo can do whatever they want…drop down a few components to increase their own profit margins while keeping the MSRP the same. And suckers will still buy it.
(sorry, OT)
jonnyo, hope you don’t mind me asking (and feel free to decline answering)…with the whole teamTBB thing now, what frame & wheels will you likely be riding next season, and for which events? As an existing Cervelo/HED athlete the move seems a a seamless one for you, but as a teamTBB member do you still maintain that same “factory rider” status, with access to the best equipment? Or must you defer to team requirements? Or too early to tell?
i should apologize, i don’t mean to boast, i am just extremely proud to soon be the owner of such a machine.
everyone’s comments are correct, it hasn’t been proven. in reality, for 99.9999% of people posting here this bike will not give you a significant advantage of any kind. however, i don’t think there is a doubt in anyone’s mind that this will be a fast bike. that combined with the mystique of riding such a rare bike (only 275 in 2009 i believe) and the appreciation of the time spent in the wind tunnel, design elements, etc made it the obvious choice for me…
I lust for a P4 or similar design simply for the reason that you can equip it for an ironman without strapping anything do it that ruins the aerodynamics or lines.
spares/tools in the frame storage box
water bottle between the aero bars.
awesome =)
it makes me sad to strap crap behind my pretty aero seatpost 
(sorry, OT)
jonnyo, hope you don’t mind me asking (and feel free to decline answering)…with the whole teamTBB thing now, what frame & wheels will you likely be riding next season, and for which events? As an existing Cervelo/HED athlete the move seems a a seamless one for you, but as a teamTBB member do you still maintain that same “factory rider” status, with access to the best equipment? Or must you defer to team requirements? Or too early to tell?
The way it works with TBB is, developpement athlete and rookies are on p2, top 10 finisher will be on p3. ironman winner or top 3 finisher will get the p4 when available. It s pretty simple, it s a system where you need to earn your bike. Now, if a bike dosnt fit a athlete, he will be move to something else.
A exemple is chrissie riding a 54cm p2c with one spacer and a 6 degres stem… it was a better option than a lower 54cm p3 that would be required 3cm of spacer and a upward stem.
The luxury of TBB is that even when putting there rookie on a p2c…they are pretty much putting them on the second or third best bike on the market.
As for wheels, i cant comment as i m not sure what will be the option. But mostly, lighter rider dont ride disc as it jarring way to much and take too much energy out of you. That, i m 100% agreeing with it and been saying this for years. I never been able to ride a disc properly. Now, disc cover and new generation of disc with spoke inside open up new possibility for rider like me and the girls…
basicly, there isnt much restriction but we pick what will be best to be the fastest. The problem more come when slowtiwtchers see someone not riding a disc and not riding the super deep front wheel and lack to understand that the most aero set up isnt always the fastest to get to the finish line of a TRIATHLON. We pick the set up taking into consideration handling, comfort., etc…and running fast…
As for me, you will see me on a P2 for the beginning of the year… it was my own choice, i m a rookie and want to earn my way. not sure about what wheels
Thanks for your detailed reply.
Re your comment on wheels, is the arrangement with HED somewhat up in the air at the moment? Anything to do with their wide rim technology fitting (or not fitting) the team bike(s) of choice?
Thanks again and good luck this season mate.
jonnyo, I know we have talked about this before (not that long ago), but the P4 is was second in the Worlds to a Stevens bike, not a Felt, Trek, Walser, but a Stevens, a bike that most people have never seen, or hear anything about. We should not get carried away yet, just wait till Felt decides to build a fairing into their frame like the P4, their drag numbers will drop just like the P4
garlden, your logic is faulty. You are telling me a better rider beat another one so we should be in praise for that bike? Can you imagine the marge of victory if this girls had riden a p4 instead.
The wind tunnel is a very reliable tool to mesure the performance of bikes on a aero standpoint. It s precise enought to give accreditation to airplane to go and fly… i think it s good enough to mesure what bike as the lowest drag…
lowest drag with the riding quality of a p3… well, it s not complicated… me and a lot of other people want to be on that bike!!!
as for fairing and all, you just show you lack understanding…but that is ok…you might not agree but the other company agree as when they go to a tunnel to mesure there bike, they mesure it against a cervelo…it s the reference.