2024 70.3 Worlds in Taupo - predictions and race day

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Jimmy actually came here to Slowtwitch years ago and claimed there was no power reduction benefit with a 12 meter draft distance. In my experience, even when a draft a very small person at that distance the reduction of power required is easily measured and I’m slow so the difference in power assistance should be less.

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On the post-Taupo PTN pod his current opinions were briefly related
@ 30:34.

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It just seems to me like Jimmy is in charge and he doesn’t want to, so we aren’t going to. The sport has changed, even in the last 6-7 years, so much. It’s just so much faster. Even in Kona - with Race Ranger, the draft zone actually got smaller (I believe) as they used to use the cat eyes on the road for reference instead of 12m. (I believe they are like…13.5 or something?) So while following existing rules - Kona draft zone would have got smaller.

Am I recalling the old Kona draft zone correctly here?

It needs to go out - the technology just makes it super easy. There’s really no reason to not do it other than “tradition” but even that makes no sense, or else we would have the stagger rule, or…a plethora of other things that have been tried.

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You’re pretty close to spot on if I remember correctly. The cat eyes are placed 40ft on center which is ~ 12.2 meters and they use them from rear of leading bike to front of following bike rather then front to front. The length of a bike is ~ 2 meters that makes the total distance ~ 14 meters.

YMMV,

Hugh

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Léo Bergère’s take, en français (Nicolas Acloque)

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Good stuff!

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Senior Editor (@Ironmandad ) spotted in the wild

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I promise, I wasn’t shooting with my phone!

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Just texting me stuff to use :slight_smile:

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Not to you specifically - was Hayden not at awards?

ETA - responded to you watching the video

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Kevin always looks waaaay too fit and bloody healthy for an old bloke…Makes me sick :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

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Agreed. Disgusting

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He had to fly back to Andorra to close on a house so missed awards.

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what if he achieved his goal and won?

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He had planned to be at awards but there was a snafu with the real estate closing and they risked losing the place and the 10% deposit if he didn’t sign on December 18th… he talks about it on the latest Fitter Radio podcast.

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Late to this thread but wanted to just say how good Taylor Knibb was. I know men/women raced on different days but I think there needs to be some appreciation/acceptance about how the top women are closing the gap to men’s racing, similar to marathon running where Chepngetich was 11th overall in Chicago this year. Knibb’s bike would have had her 34/43 MPro & 37/43 overall. She only would have lost to 3 AG men & there are tons at that race good enough to turn pro. Imagine Knibb racing @ a domestic 70.3. She’s on another planet rn. The recent PTO day in the life video with her was really solid. She has a great long term approach to getting better in the sport.

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Not to mention if Taylor was able to ride in a group with some MPros!!! She raced completely solo

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Wouldn’t she just get dropped and ride solo?

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Are you sure she would be dropped? She outbiked a number of male pros in Oceanside which would be a better indicator.

But nevertheless here is what I see for male results (copied from Tri247 due to ease of format)

    1. Jelle Geens (BEL) – 3:32:09 (22:23 / 1:59:08 / 1:07:34)
    1. Hayden Wilde (NZL) – 3:33:22 (22:20 / 1:58:51 / 1:09:05)
    1. Léo Bergère (FRA) – 3:35:08 (22:02 / 1:59:29 / 1:10:28)
    1. Kyle Smith (NZL) – 3:37:51 (22:22 / 1:59:09 / 1:13:15)
    1. Justus Nieschlag (GER) – 3:38:06 (22:24 / 1:59:07 / 1:13:25)
    1. Henri Schoeman (RSA) – 3:39:20 (22:19 / 2:00:07 / 1:13:29)
    1. Rico Bogen (GER) – 3:39:36 (22:18 / 1:59:02 / 1:14:59)
    1. Harry Palmer (GBR) – 3:39:42 (23:06 / 2:01:29 / 1:11:25)
    1. Gregory Barnaby (ITA) – 3:40:14 (22:54 / 2:01:45 / 1:12:05)
    1. Marc Dubrick (USA) – 3:40:27 (22:02 / 2:03:04 / 1:12:05)
    1. Wilhelm Hirsch (GER) – 3:41:27 (22:16 / 2:02:23 / 1:13:38)
    1. Tom Bishop (GBR) – 3:42:01 (22:55 / 2:01:52 / 1:13:33)
    1. Kacper Stepniak (POL) – 3:42:26 (22:25 / 2:02:18 / 1:14:20)3
    1. Braden Currie (NZL) – 3:44:28 (22:57 / 2:04:32 / 1:13:15)
    1. Matt Hanson (USA) – 3:44:47 (23:21 / 2:07:40 / 1:10:17)
    1. Ben Hamilton (NZL) – 3:44:50 (23:15 / 2:04:09 / 1:13:33)
    1. Kristian Høgenhaug (DEN) – 3:44:52 (23:13 / 2:02:10 / 1:15:53)
    1. Thomas Davis (GBR) – 3:44:54 (22:58 / 2:04:37 / 1:13:48)
    1. Colin Czuch (USA) – 3:45:26 (25:18 / 2:04:30 / 1:11:31)
    1. Jack Moody (NZL) – 3:45:34 (23:16 / 2:06:12 / 1:12:31)
    1. Mike Phillips (NZL) – 3:46:59 (23:11 / 2:04:13 / 1:16:01)
    1. Federico Scarabino (URU) – 3:47:14 (23:06 / 2:04:22 / 1:16:07)
    1. Mitchell Kibby (AUS) – 3:47:18 (23:19 / 2:07:27 / 1:12:54)
    1. Josh Amberger (AUS) – 3:47:22 (22:00 / 2:05:50 / 1:15:52)
    1. Kurt McDonald (AUS) – 3:48:32 (23:00 / 2:02:03 / 1:20:09)
    1. Dieter Comhair (BEL) – 3:49:05 (26:13 / 2:03:47 / 1:15:28)
    1. Caleb Noble (AUS) – 3:49:43 (22:55 / 2:08:07 / 1:14:49)
    1. Jason West (USA) – 3:49:55 (23:04 / 2:13:37 / 1:09:52)
    1. Ari Klau (USA) – 3:50:45 (27:03 / 2:09:20 / 1:10:39)
    1. Mathis Margirier (FRA) – 3:51:39 (23:03 / 2:03:25 / 1:21:44)
    1. Sam Osborne (NZL) – 3:52:26 (22:57 / 2:08:04 / 1:17:52)
    1. Greg Harper (USA) – 3:53:23 (21:48 / 2:09:34 / 1:18:00)
    1. Ruben Zepuntke (GER) – 3:55:04 (23:01 / 2:01:17 / 1:26:52)
    1. Anthony Costes (FRA) – 3:55:09 (23:08 / 2:13:51 / 1:14:36)
    1. Matthew Marquardt (USA) – 3:56:19 (23:02 / 2:12:44 / 1:16:11)
    1. Matthew Ralphs (RSA) – 3:56:43 (25:19 / 2:05:29 / 1:21:36)
    1. Nicholas Free (AUS) – 3:59:40 (23:12 / 2:14:36 / 1:18:24)
    1. Michael Arishita (USA) – 4:04:22 (23:04 / 2:14:55 / 1:22:39)
    1. Calvin Amos (AUS) – 4:04:41 (28:52 / 2:11:56 / 1:20:07)
    1. Armando Matute (ECU) – 4:07:30 (22:28 / 2:27:11 / 1:14:02)
    1. Martin Ulloa (CHI) – 4:13:37 (22:58 / 2:21:14 / 1:25:03)

Knibb was 2:10 in Taupo, question is would she have any men to ride with as most of the men were sub 23 min swim, but looks like she would catch several

    1. Taylor Knibb (USA) – 3:57:34 (24:30 / 2:10:09 / 1:19:20)
    1. Kat Matthews (GBR) – 3:58:49 (25:03 / 2:14:41 / 1:15:34)
    1. Ashleigh Gentle (AUS) – 4:03:01 (25:04 / 2:18:03 / 1:16:26)
    1. Imogen Simmonds (SUI) – 4:05:12 (24:32 / 2:14:34 / 1:22:15)
    1. Julie Derron (SUI) – 4:06:02 (24:39 / 2:18:15 / 1:19:38)
    1. Paula Findlay (CAN) – 4:07:12 (25:20 / 2:17:37 / 1:20:31)
    1. Ellie Salthouse (AUS) – 4:07:48 (25:46 / 2:18:55 / 1:19:15)
    1. Caroline Pohle (GER) – 4:08:06 (24:36 / 2:18:18 / 1:21:25)
    1. Tamara Jewett (CAN) – 4:08:47 (26:17 / 2:22:30 / 1:16:12)
    1. Grace Thek (AUS) – 4:09:08 (25:04 / 2:20:58 / 1:19:14)
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Early to this thread :wink:
Matthews’ run would have had her 28/42 MPros & 30/6000+ overall.
She only would have lost to only one competitive (finish in top 40) amateur on the run.
She is, however, not “on another planet” but needs, as she said, to improve her bike (implicitly to take down Knibb). I guess we’ll see how that one goes in Texas in April.