Fullager just got herself a 2nd in Samarkand World Cup (only caught it half way through the run) Rainsley an 8th, think Holland was 22nd!

dannyboyjim wrote:

Not sure where you have taken the data from; but not quite right I don’t think. E.g Potter won 4 races on the way to the world title last year.

Amended, and including the test event

WOMEN

GTB: 7 podiums (4 wins)
Potter: 7 podiums (4 wins)
Duffy: 6 podiums (4 wins)
Beaugraund: 5 podiums (2 wins)
Knibb: 5 podiums (1 win)
Periault: 4 podiums (1 win)
Coldwell: 4 podiums (1 win)
Lombardi: 4 podiums


MEN
Wilde: 8 podiums (4 wins)
Bergere: 8 podiums (1 win)
Yee: 7 podiums (6 wins)
Hauser: 4 podiums (1 win)
Vilaça: 4 podiums
Geens: 3 podiums (1 win)
Messias: 3 podiums

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Spaniard. Sorry for my english for the sensitive ones :P

Netherlands took 2nd place but aren’t qualified yet as Kolkman is ranked 146 and needs a good result tomorrow to get in the top 140.

As far as Kolkman being their “weak” leg it was thanks to him on the 1st leg that they were even in the race. Murray lost about 1 minute on his leg and was 80 seconds slower than Kolkman, but Kolkman had the advantage of riding in a group.

And Kingma wasn't called on to race Leg 2 which is why Murray took over so far down.
https://www.triathlon.org/...135049/mitch_kolkman
Kolkman can be sure to be in the front pack tomorrow, and ride FP to T2. And then try to survive the run to get some points to get into that top 140 and satisfy that eligibility criterion. Think a top 30 finish would get him 49 points and make that assured.
54 starting: https://www.triathlon.org/..._cup_huatulco/630336

Interesting to see that, cheers for totaling up.

 
another nice stat ,peraults win in yokohama was the first world series oly distance race a french female won, since the start of world series.

First post on these forums... just watched the Huatulco mixed relay, and I wanted to say...

RACHEL KLAMER, you are a little legend! A solid swim, a solid bike, and a BLISTERING (in extreme heat) run putting Team Netherlands into the Olympics and getting hubby Richard across the line as well. Richard you are one lucky bastard to have this little gem for a wife!

TOP 5s since Tokyo in olympic distance (including the test event)

WOMEN
Knibb: 7 (1 win)
Spivey: 6
Lombardi: 5
GTB: 4 (3 wins)
Duffy: 4 (2 wins)
Periault: 4 (1 win)
Potter: 3 (2 wins)
Beaugraund: 3
Lindemann: 2

Conclussions: Hard to bet against GTB, Duffy and Knibb. Watch out Lombardi and Periault!. Spivey HAS TO GO. Potter and Beugraund suffer more than in sprint distance.

MEN
Bergere 8 (1 win)
Yee 6 (4 wins)
Connix 4 (1 win)
Hauser 4
Le Corre 4
Wilde 3 (1 win)
Pearson 2 (1 win)
Vilaça 2
Geens 2

Conclussions: Yee wins if the front is reachable. Put your money on Bergere. If Le Corre is fit, he is a better pick than Luis. Hauser will be there!

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Spaniard. Sorry for my english for the sensitive ones :P

Fair point about the sprints, CB definitely does do better over this distance, but Potter has been a developing athlete since Tokyo, not really fair to throw her in the mix with the girls who are now on their 2nd/3rd Olympic cycle, I think she undeniably proved herself the best women last year over both distances (although with GTB/Duffy missing)

It will be exciting to see all the top women together in a full distance, non-wetsuited swim at Cagliari this coming Saturday. I wonder if Periault will have a fast enough swim to make the front group without a wetsuit or if GTB will have her endurance back? It really ought to be a barn burner of a race with such a loaded field.

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Genetics load the gun, lifestyle pulls the trigger.

Just watched the mens . Nice to see Conor Bentley back in form, after being injured last year There could be a case for him for the relay. Always been a solid all rounder triathlete.

Kolkman got 9th to move up to 126th in the Olympic rankings. Hopefully, that is enough but for some reason Panjar finished in 8th 2 seconds in front without seeding the place to Kolkman. Which I completely can’t understand.

I hope then don’t lose the top 140 ranking by a few points. Panjar is 233 in the rankings so completely doesn’t make sense.

Let me offer a couple of reasons for Panjer to put his best effort in:
1. World Triathlon rules and the risk of a DQ (for himself and maybe even for Kolkman)
2. Sportsmanship.

Also, seeing as he’s Dutch and Dutch people generally obsess about observing rules, it would be shocking if he tried any shenanigans.

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"FTP is a bit 2015, don't you think?" - Gustav Iden

Barking. Panjer 'literally' swam T1'd biked and ran alongside Kolkman, with Murray giving them both a slap on the back as he ran to the win.
https://triathlon.org/..._cup_huatulco/630336
But none (maybe 1) of those in the 130-150 ranking bracket will have got a start at Cagliari and certainly not 13. Is there anywhere else where points can be earned next w/e (deadline 27 May)?
Olsztyn, Poland or Kazakhstan but neither of those are "Continental Triathlon Championships" or "Continental
Games."
Aside from that, McDowell finished #15 at Huatalco, running a few seconds slower than Kolkman (assume both Leg 1 MTR athletes for Paris!) and 38 seconds down on Murray.

correct , cagliari is the last event left for the olympic ranking so he is 100 percent top 140.

Interesting about McDowell. Maybe I haven’t been paying enough attention, but his Yokohama wasn’t great. I don’t know much about his injury, but he ran 5 minutes slower than Matt Mac. Granted, he swam 10 seconds faster, but would they really take him over Seth or Matt?

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Aaron Bales
Lansing Triathlon Team

I don’t think she is a favorite, but I think she could make some people real nervous. I need to re-watch the test event, can’t remember how that split happened.

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Aaron Bales
Lansing Triathlon Team

For those that relish the gory detail of Olympic qualifications (with the/my caveat that it remains each NOC/TriFed decision who is nominated) then Ben Eastman has penned a World Tri 'News' article on how Huatalco and Samarkand have affected that and the key 'last slot' battles which will be (likely unseen and little mentioned) sub plots in Cagliari.
https://www.triathlon.org/...the_olympic_rankings
Oly Rankings: https://triathlon.org/...qualification/female

When you watch the replay notice what happens at ~ 1:07 in. It appears that Taylor Knibb who is sitting about 6th wheel very intentionally lets off the gas allowing a really big gap to form ahead of her and then drops back behind the following group forcing them to chase really hard without her help to get back on the front 5. This isn't the first time I've seen Taylor use this tactic in an attempt to shed clingons from the group. The commentators chalked the event up to her handing skills but I'm pretty sure that wasn't the case.

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Genetics load the gun, lifestyle pulls the trigger.

the most interesting thing for myself is , how easy going the spaniards are to secure their 3 rd male slot putting all their eggs in the cagliari basket.
and there is still a theoretical chance that new zealand could get 3 males in the top 30.

about the spaniards...each of them is looking for his own interest and the federation is letting them do it. I am not sure they will get the 3rd spot, but if they do my money would go on Baxter. Serrat has secured his spot, Sanchez is the 2nd (he is not in shape lately).
IMO, the federation should have given Cantero some World series start...the guy is amongst the best runners in the sport (just needs some experience).

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Spaniard. Sorry for my english for the sensitive ones :P

When you watch the replay notice what happens at ~ 1:07 in. It appears that Taylor Knibb who is sitting about 6th wheel very intentionally lets off the gas allowing a really big gap to form ahead of her and then drops back behind the following group forcing them to chase really hard without her help to get back on the front 5.//

When I watch the bigger groups like that in the lead, usually over 10 but less than 20 riders, I always think that is a thing I would do. I think very few triathletes know this subtle tactic, the Brownlees used to do it when having some passengers. I dont know for sure if Taylor was doing that, I really hope she was, as that indicates that she has a very high level of tactical thought going on in her brain in real time..


So for those of you not aware of this, it happens when either one or more athletes just sits on the back of a breakaway group that is trying to get and stay away. Someone like Taylor then finds the line where the pullers and hangers on is, slow pedals for a bit to open a gap, and then forces them to pull back on. Since most of the passengers are just watching the wheel in front, you can often get quite a good gap to open. So you make them work harder to just stay in the back, than if they just pulled through. At some point along with some verbal encouragement, they will begin to pull through.


But sometimes they just dont get it, so the tactic still works in that you are softening up your comp. I saw a couple times Taylor was off the back with one rider, and looking back it really looks like this is what she was doing. Forcing that rider to close 5 or 6 lengths each time. And the only reason she can get away with this is that if the rider pops and cannot close, she can just go around and get back on herself. Only strong riders can do this, and if they are really smart, they do it when someone is really pushing the pace on the front, like when Duffy and Kingma were taking monster pulls..


Maybe she could do well in that olympic RR after all, using that degree to good use...(-; I hope that Duffy, Kingma, and Spivey look at this and then realize they are getting help in their break efforts from the middle to the back too. A lot of really good runners in that break did not run so well in the end, lots of surprises, and perhaps we now know one of the reasons...

Thank you for this. I could not figure out what she was doing. You could see that it was intentional and not poor bike handling skills. I thought she was just trying to challenge herself to open space up and then work hard to reconnect.

Your explanation makes perfect sense.

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"Good genes are not a requirement, just the obsession to beat ones brains out daily"...the Griz

Duffy did this in one race, to beaugrand I believe.
It was successful too, beaugrand got dropped

overall and based on yokohama results it would be a big surprise if they did not get a 3rd slot.
2 of the 3 guys have a very low score they can easily improve on, but they do cut it fine.
there is so much talent in spain, draft legal club structure seems to be the best in europe after france.