I don't want to be "the expert".
I don't want to curate this thread either.
But I think some people want a new thread on this topic.
I live and train (mostly outdoors) in Tucson. Here are some comments:
1) A short, easy workout, in very high temperatures, followed by cool water and shade- is better than most sex.
2) I suppose a little heat (and/or humidity) is just another obstacle- like hills or wind.
3) Running- in temperatures of over 105 and dry (or over 95 and humid) is unsustainable in the long (or hard) run.
Long runs require tooooo much water, toooo many salt pills. And you wind up running toooooo slow. And getting tooo tired.
And hard efforts, are a sure fire way to make yourself feel really sick. And you can't go fast anyway!!
Cycling - temperatures of over 110 (or 100 with humud) is also unsustainable.
Swimming- temperatures over 87 are unsustainable.
4) Short easy workouts add up!
5) Personally, I hate swimming in hot water the most!!!
The un-cooled swimming pools in Tucson are currently 90+ degrees.
Weirdly, the water feels cool to the skin.
But any effort at all, immediately makes you feel sick. And you get exhausted really fast.
6) Public service warning...
DEHYDRATION DANGER- I once nearly killed myself. Here is how:
I was on a 100+ mile bike ride.
It was kinda hot.
But not hot to the skin (mid 90s).
It was windy.
It was high elevation.
I was loosing water really fast.
But still felt cool.
I wasn't thirsty.
I was cycling for hours.
At some point, I started to feel bad.
I didn't analyze why. I just kept going.
After about an hour, I felt really, really bad. (And went from riding 20+ mph to 7 mph).
My heart was beating 170 bpm (without cycling at all) and I was dizzy.
Basically- my blood had turned to sludge.
I was having something very similar to a heart attach.
And would have probably died in another 30 minutes.
I bummed some water from a guy who lived in a sketchy looking trailer.
He may have saved my life!!
I drank the water and lay in the shade and eventually rode into town (without having to call an ambulance).
I am pretty sure I had some of the stress hormones related to a heart attack.
And I felt wonky for a month afterwards.
7) Being adapted to dry heat is NOT the same as being adapted to humid heat.
Dry heat-
Lot's of sweat and a large surface area of skin- cool a person quite effectively.
Dry heat adaptation is about cooling, sweating and processing water.
Humid heat-
Sweat and surface area don't help that much. The key here is to produce as little heat as possible.
8) They say "training in heat is like training at elevation." This might be true in that less oxygen is available for exercise.
In hot conditions (especially very hot and dry), lots of blood is diverted to the skin for cooling purposes. And less blood is available for exercise. The hotter, and the harder the training - the more cooling necessary!! The less blood!!
BUT.....
THIS IS KINDA STUPID!!!
The point of elevation is to LIVE at altitude, NOT to train slowly, all the time.
I believe that many of the professional running groups in Flagstaff drive down hill for their hard workouts.
Theory- maybe it is wise to treat heat like altitude. Spend as much time in it as possible. But don't skip fast, or long workouts in better conditions.
9) Lots of heat causes salt imbalances.
Salt imbalances can cause cramping and swelling/water retention.
Swelling, in turn can aggrevate injuries.
10) Magnessium, potassium, zinc, iodine (more?) salts, in addition to regular salt- are helpful.
11) Salt imbalances can also cause electrical instability in the heart.
Therefore, exercise in the heat might cause, or aggrevate, heart irregularities!!!
Personally, this doesn't concern me too much.
But it is just something to be aware of.
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Re: Training in the Heat [Velocibuddha] [ In reply to ]
BLeP Jun 22, 21 14:05 Post #2 of 3
How does Danny Hart sit down with balls that big?
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Velocibuddha Jun 22, 21 14:06 Post #3 of 3
Oops.
Sorry.
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I don't want to curate this thread either.
But I think some people want a new thread on this topic.
I live and train (mostly outdoors) in Tucson. Here are some comments:
1) A short, easy workout, in very high temperatures, followed by cool water and shade- is better than most sex.
2) I suppose a little heat (and/or humidity) is just another obstacle- like hills or wind.
3) Running- in temperatures of over 105 and dry (or over 95 and humid) is unsustainable in the long (or hard) run.
Long runs require tooooo much water, toooo many salt pills. And you wind up running toooooo slow. And getting tooo tired.
And hard efforts, are a sure fire way to make yourself feel really sick. And you can't go fast anyway!!
Cycling - temperatures of over 110 (or 100 with humud) is also unsustainable.
Swimming- temperatures over 87 are unsustainable.
4) Short easy workouts add up!
5) Personally, I hate swimming in hot water the most!!!
The un-cooled swimming pools in Tucson are currently 90+ degrees.
Weirdly, the water feels cool to the skin.
But any effort at all, immediately makes you feel sick. And you get exhausted really fast.
6) Public service warning...
DEHYDRATION DANGER- I once nearly killed myself. Here is how:
I was on a 100+ mile bike ride.
It was kinda hot.
But not hot to the skin (mid 90s).
It was windy.
It was high elevation.
I was loosing water really fast.
But still felt cool.
I wasn't thirsty.
I was cycling for hours.
At some point, I started to feel bad.
I didn't analyze why. I just kept going.
After about an hour, I felt really, really bad. (And went from riding 20+ mph to 7 mph).
My heart was beating 170 bpm (without cycling at all) and I was dizzy.
Basically- my blood had turned to sludge.
I was having something very similar to a heart attach.
And would have probably died in another 30 minutes.
I bummed some water from a guy who lived in a sketchy looking trailer.
He may have saved my life!!
I drank the water and lay in the shade and eventually rode into town (without having to call an ambulance).
I am pretty sure I had some of the stress hormones related to a heart attack.
And I felt wonky for a month afterwards.
7) Being adapted to dry heat is NOT the same as being adapted to humid heat.
Dry heat-
Lot's of sweat and a large surface area of skin- cool a person quite effectively.
Dry heat adaptation is about cooling, sweating and processing water.
Humid heat-
Sweat and surface area don't help that much. The key here is to produce as little heat as possible.
8) They say "training in heat is like training at elevation." This might be true in that less oxygen is available for exercise.
In hot conditions (especially very hot and dry), lots of blood is diverted to the skin for cooling purposes. And less blood is available for exercise. The hotter, and the harder the training - the more cooling necessary!! The less blood!!
BUT.....
THIS IS KINDA STUPID!!!
The point of elevation is to LIVE at altitude, NOT to train slowly, all the time.
I believe that many of the professional running groups in Flagstaff drive down hill for their hard workouts.
Theory- maybe it is wise to treat heat like altitude. Spend as much time in it as possible. But don't skip fast, or long workouts in better conditions.
9) Lots of heat causes salt imbalances.
Salt imbalances can cause cramping and swelling/water retention.
Swelling, in turn can aggrevate injuries.
10) Magnessium, potassium, zinc, iodine (more?) salts, in addition to regular salt- are helpful.
11) Salt imbalances can also cause electrical instability in the heart.
Therefore, exercise in the heat might cause, or aggrevate, heart irregularities!!!
Personally, this doesn't concern me too much.
But it is just something to be aware of.
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Re: Training in the Heat [Velocibuddha] [ In reply to ]
BLeP Jun 22, 21 14:05 Post #2 of 3
How does Danny Hart sit down with balls that big?
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Re: Training in the Heat [BLeP] [ In reply to ]
Velocibuddha Jun 22, 21 14:06 Post #3 of 3
Oops.
Sorry.
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