So no more P3/5. Just P series and PX series...?

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I believe so. A more simplified product lineup

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I could get on board with this. Prices aren't bad (compared to P3X imo). Really, really, really dislike what they did with the front brake cable.

I'm dissapointed there is still no draft box.

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I really love the black and white P3/Di2, very classy!
I bought a P3 di2 18 months ago and I cannot justify buying a new one now but if I would buy a bike today this will be the one!
Hope that my wife reads this since my birthday is in two weeks and I have been a good boy!

Website implies:
P series < P5 disc
PX Series > P3x (slight drag saving over P3x and added split basebar?)

Bit confusing to have done that the opposite way around I'd say!

I'm so relieved you get your integration!!!

If it had a draft box, I'd be happier. I'm not sure I'd buy this.

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Those color schemes are dreadful. I can't believe they got rid of P5 Disc black/graphite Batman-colored bike. Dammit.

But I give Cervelo an A+ on the commercial -

If I ever decide to go disc, this would be a good starting place to look--Cervelo always is for me. I honestly don't know all the competitor pricing, but $2,500 for that frame seems reasonable to me. And, if I ever make that conversion a few years from now, this frame will be half that price. I think its a sharp looking bike. I could care less about a draft box. Between the bento and pick your BTS set up, you should be able to carry 2-3 CO2, 2 tubes, a tire lever and a chuck-that is more than enough to get through a ride for me.

Looks like a knockoff Giant Trinity

I had to pull the trigger and buy a new P2 several months ago (I needed a 61). Efforts on two used tri bikes (a P5 & Trek Speed Concept) didn't work (fit me) out. Love my P2 (added Di2 and Enve 7.8's) but would buy the new P series in a heartbeat.

That front brake cable is a travesty and inexcusable imo. Paint is “meh”. I’ll give them points for the price on the frameset though.

And that frame is like 5 years old, lol.

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would it have killed them to integrate the front brake cable routing? smh

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based on playing around the website.

The offering looks more like this:

P Series
P5
P3x

None of the option on the P Series give you an integrated cockpit like the P5.

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OMG!! that giant gap between the bottle and the steerer tube. After all that work that Torhans, Speedfil, Xlab put into kamtrails and getting the BTA tucked into the frame, these guys come out with this atrocity? Looks like a cross between the newer Slice and the newer Trinity. The thinner tube profiles just dont sit right with me for some reason. The 15/16 P5 is such a solid frame even today.

Imagine if Roka came out with a triathlon bike?

Yeah the bottle location is odd. I guess their thoughts were "We need a black bottle to match our down tube bottle!" That's a Vision Aero bottle https://shop.visiontechusa.com/...t-hydratation-system

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being a dad of a daughter this got me in the feels BIG TIME. they nailed it on the marketing!

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Looks like they just put a new head tub and fork on the S5. Everything back is nearly identical.

External brake cables at this point are pretty inexcusable.

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Wait... so the P5 Disc, black/graphite is still available? I was told otherwise this morning by a Cervelo authorized dealer...

Yes still available. Tri is the P3X/PX and TT is the P-Series/P5

We broke down the full range of bikes - http://aerogeeks.com/...t-lineup-first-look/ (including the confusing naming convention)

Not sure why they would get rid of it. The P5 Disc is UCI Compliant and the P Series is not...unless I'm missing something on Cervelo's website.

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Not sure why they would get rid of it. The P5 Disc is UCI Compliant and the P Series is not...unless I'm missing something on Cervelo's website.

Both the P5 and PSeries are UCI compliant. http://aerogeeks.com/...p-series-first-look/

Thank you berry much.

My feelings as well. $2500 for the frameset is nice. Cheaper than the rim P3 frameset which surprises me. Most companies seem to be including a ‘disc brake tax.’

Maybe they’ll get the brake hose cleaned up in the next year or two

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Also, looking at the Di2 built, it has TRP HD-T910 levers with Shimano di2 SW-R600 levers. I know I read a couple years ago that you could change the ‘housing’ of the TRP lever so that Di2 buttons could be placed in it, but I don’t think anything other than a prototype was done
https://bikerumor.com/...in-di2-etap-buttons/

Wondering if that is what this is or if it’s something just kind of hacked together

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+1. Even the seatclamp is identical to S5 ;)
I guess, the manufacturing method is 2 separate moulds - one for rear triangle, one for front, so what Cervelo did here, is basically took the S5 rear and glued together with a new front end.

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We asked Cervelo about this. Its similiar but a little thicker on the P3

Am I lost or is this the answer if you want a p5 disk frame without proprietary cockpit?
Looks like the next bike for me for sure.

it's a fine bike, but is there any way to attach more stuff to it? what it i want 2 more spare tyres? or rearview mirrors? where should i hang my fuzzy dice? is there room for a 5th water bottle?

back to the drawing board, cervelo!

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Nice. Reminds me of the old Garmin 910 commercial.

Wanna take bets on what's faster...my old (2014 era) P2 with TriRig Omegas and Hed Jet6+ Black wheels (cover on rear) vs. a P-series with same bar and bottles (that Cervelo Aero bottle fits the old P2/P3, right?) and Hed Jet6+ Disc wheels (cover on rear again...can you put a cover on one of those?)?

Based on the claimed savings vs. a stock P2/P3, I'm betting on my rig being lower drag (and significantly so)...

Oh well. At least it's new and shiny...

(BTW, I'm serious about wondering if that bottle fits the old P2/P3...right now I've got an Elite Crono CX on there mounted lower with an adapter, but that looks like it would fit much nicer in that spot)

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I bought the Cervelo Aero bottle for my 2011 P2 and the mount hangs off the downtube quite a bit on each side. It's only designed for the wider downtubes

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Off topic for this thread but Giant’s aero bottle works pretty well on my Speed Concept ;)

Yeah...I'm looking at the newer downtubes with that bottle and comparing to mine...it looks like they're wider further up past the upper bottle mount. Bummer. Looks like I'll have to print up the adapter I've designed up to mount the Elite bottle further down...

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Which was a knock off of the original p3 series from 17 years ago.

Maurice

Hmmm https://www.google.com/...mgrc=dFgtRTGj7Q2EsM:

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This is great news if used P2s and P3s start flooding the market.

And, sure, 105 is 'good enough', but for $3k+ I want the label on the big parts to end with "-tegra".

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do you intend to drink out of the new p-series bottle? i cannot get the bottle back into the cage. i've got 2 of these p-series bikes right now i'm messing with. i love the bottle. just not as a bottle. it needs to just be storage.

here is what i've written so far about this bike.

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Yes and no.
On one hand - stick a TR Alpha One on this frame and you've got a P5D with better adjustability and lower cost. The only thing that stops me from saying it would be foolish to buy a P5D is the front brake cable on the P-Series.

On the other - that's about all you can do - can't fix that brake cable (which is what TR Omega did for rim brake bikes). Tidy storage is done, only one rear bottle mount option (at this point). There really isn't much to be done with it other than a bar upgrade.

What an aeroweenie would do (as evinced by the comment from a member of the aeroweenie circle of elders above) is grab one of the outgoing P2/3/5 frames and tweak that.

One impact of disc brakes is that the gap between mortal and top end bikes is narrowed - the top bikes no longer have a hidden brake aero advantage. Cervelo probably had to leave the front brake cable dangling in the wind to force a meaningful aero difference between P-series (which is a particularly uninspiring name) and P5D

Is it boring of me to complain about the geometry?

Was the cable fully hidden on the p5disc?

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Yes - its only exposed when it leaves the fork to enter the calipers. I couldnt find a great non drive side photo but this gives you an idea.

So they UNdid this design on the new bike?!

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The p5 has the fully integrated base bar and bayonet fork. The new bike is much more standard. I wouldn’t say they undid it - it’s a completely different design. Still needs to be corrected though.

The frame looks completely different.

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Easy to hide the cable when it just goes into the bayonet under the stem. At the very least the PS could have the cable enter at the front of the crown so it's in front of the HT.
Or there are a variety of ways of running it into the frame - though there is a travel/practicality argument against that.

Was about to say the same thing. Looks a lot like the Trinity but with a terrible front hydration system. Seems like a decent bike for the money but I’d take the Giant over this.

Gotta agree with you there. Great commercial. My 5 year old daughter likes to run on the treadmill next to me while I’m riding the trainer. Definitely spent some trainer rides watching kids shows on Netflix.

I don’t know, I thought it was rather heavy handed.

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True. And then it would look even more like a Superslice than it already does.

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The P Ultegra retails for 6500$.

Are the wheels Vision 55 Disc any good?

ARe there any other options to consider in this price range for a « complete » build (storage, wheels... included)?

Is the P3X available as a frameset..? The aerogeek link says is $2500 and the PX frameset is $5500..? That's a LOT of $$$ for a different set of bars..!!

The P-Series, P5, and PX are all availabile as frame sets ($2500/$5500/$5500). The P3X is not (at least as of now)

But is t the PX the same frame as the P3x? Just the base bar thats different no?

Specialized did the same thing more than a decade ago with the Transition. Designed a specific water bottle (Virtue) to fit perfectly with the single bosses on the frame. The only issue being the bottle was useless as a bottle. They learned and moved on only to have Cervelo do the same thing with the P4 albiet the P4 bottle was designed to exploit a UCI loophole and make the whole bike faster. I would have thought the lesson would have been learned by now but apparently not.

Yep same frame. Different base bar and group sets. Only way to get the non UCI legal frame though is through the PX framekit. The P-Series frame is the UCI legal one.

Pretty sure that is an error. P3X doesn't appear to be available as a frameset on the Cervelo website.

Thanks for pointing that out. I didnt realize the error on the page was causing the confusion. We updated http://aerogeeks.com/...t-lineup-first-look/ and now correctly state the P3X frameset is NOT available. Also realized we had the prices mixed up for the P-Series and P3X as well. All should be well now!

I was thinking that, but the P3 design was introduced more like 20 years ago. Either late 1999 or early 2000. Cervelo evolved their P2 which had a seatmast into 2 new and exciting bikes the P2K and the P3 with curved seat tube. Both in aluminum and the first bikes that I recall which had telescoping aero seat posts plus they had horizontal dropouts to tuck rear wheel into seat tube for better aerodynamics. Plus, the aero tubing that was superior to most anything else on the market. These 2 frames were revolutionary and totally changed the landscape of triathlon bikes.

The P3 with curved seat tube was one of the most emulated tribikes of all time!

I remember seeing the original P2 with seatmast at the 1996 Powerman Alabama, when Cervelo was NOT that common and my first impression was “that looks like a copy of the GT Superbike 1”.

I don’t know much about Vision wheel but I would think that choice would be disappointing to those who are looking to buy the completed bike. It would be a factor in steering me toward the frame.

I feel like they had meetings about how can we make our bikes uglier and executed well. 15/16 P5 is so beautiful to look at P-series? Oh man, I need to wash my eyes.

Huh...I've never had any issues using my Virtue bottle as a bottle...and I've used it on everything from the original Transition it was designed for, to an S5, to my current custom Stinner road bike. It just doesn't match up well to the downtube on the P2...

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This campaign could be great if they put in on TV...but why do I know it won't get put on TV?

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Was it me, or did that guy look like LA (especially since the camera shots were so quick and changed so often)???

If you want your kids to become endurance athletes you have to do the sports a family, support it with decent quality gear, and most importantly put them in a place where they can do the sport with their peer group.

You cannot make your kids want to do endurance sports just because you do. It takes their peer group to make it happen.

Do you know if the P3X can be "upgraded" afterwards with the split basebar of the new PX-Series? Is the new mount system in any way compatible and are (or will be) available as spare parts ?

Exposed cables and ugly paint. Why Cervelo????????

Looking at the specs on Cervelo's website. The Px reverted to the P5x's base bar. The split basebar was new for the P3x.

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I don't like the front hydration. Looks just bolted on. Not sure why all the colors are mostly black; must be cheaper to produce. Cervelo should be leading with this class of tri bike, not following.

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Just bought the bike but I am changing out that front hydration - cheap and "wiggly" for my taste.

Tightened it up and it works great. I am keeping the vision hydration flask on the front and below.

Hi Dan

I’m working on bottom bracket box and rear box for the Pseries. Currently have access to a 61 at LBS. Wi be test fitting first prototype this weekend.

What size are the frames you have?

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i have a 56 in the P2 and the L in the P3X. or i have L and L. but i thought the P2 Disc were numerical sizes.

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Dan, do you have the P-Series


or the Old P2 in a 56?

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oh, yeah. i don't currently have a P5 Disc. what i do have is a P3X and a P-Series. the new one. in size 56.

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Can someone who owns the bike measure and let me know if you think wheels with a rim width of 32mm will fit?

you could ride any rim depth you want with this bike.

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Yeah, I know. Thats why I edited the post, as you can ser in the quote

sorry. didn't see your edit until after i posted. here is a P-Series with 25mm tires. you can see what clearance, front and rear, exists. my concern beyond 28mm is not the width but the height. i could see, maybe, the 30mm schwalbe pro one tubeless. after that i think you'd be in danger of height clearance, depending on the rim used. you might be able to get away with 32mm, depending on whether you're talking about 32mm tires or whether you mean a tire that, when mounted, measures 32mm. i could see (for example) a 28mm tire measuring 32mm if mounted on an ENVE AR4.5 in this case, you could be okay. i wonder if that width takes some of the height out of the tire. i don't know.

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Anyone in the San Francisco Bay Area have the new p series. Looking to design a rear box and bottom bracket box for it. Looking for various sizes, 54, 56 and 58 to measure.
If interested, please email me at yann@custombikexcessories.com

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I hope you get hold of the 48cm frame and make options to fit as well. Us smaller athletes often get over looked.

Does anyone know if the front brake cable can be routed through the fork steerer, from the top of the steerer all the way to the brake (using a specific expander with a cable channel)? With a tririg alpha one bar, the stem cover could hide completely this undesired cable.. Stupid idea?
I know it would be unpractical for travel but I don't really care.

Hi Dan

I have a p2 bought the waterbottle and cage but as you said a pain in the a-- to land it after drinking. Cervelo wont even sell the bottle only replacement per their staff. I cut the bottom and made a flat kit that works great. But I dislike having a rear bottle. bought the elite crono for downtube and use yanns rear storage box works great will use rear bottle only after all options exhausted

I can't find anything on it, is this thru axle and if so what is the measurement?

Thanks

Is there anyone in the San Francisco Bay Area with the P-series? I'd like to start work on rear box and bottom bracket box for it like I've done for the P5 Disc. Would need to take some measurements off your bike and test fit prototype on it after first design iteration. email me at yann@custombikexcessories.com if you would be willing to help.

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Just bought a P series bike from Champion Cycling here in Jacksonville. Picking it up on Tuesday. Can anyone recommend a good set of carbon aero wheels for racing this bike?

Does it come with Vision 55 s?

I ride zipp 808 firecrest clincher/tubeless ready wheels with continental gp5000 tires.

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Damn those are sexy! Might have to get myself a set. Thanks!

They are fast. I won age group and overall in the 12 Hour World Time Trial Championships last November using 808 front and zipp super g disc rear. 253 miles in 11 hours 53 minutes beating previous course record by 4 minutes.

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My P-Series is being built up at the moment.

Quick question- has anyone put the Profile Design Aeria HSF Hydration on one? It’s been fitted to mine, but the shroud looks terrible.

Have you cut it back? And if so by how much? Are you able to post a photo?

I'm still looking for anyone in SF bay area with a p series bike that I could measure to design a rear box/bb box. Alternatively, anyone in the US have one that would be willing to take some measurements?
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I can't help but could you post up a picture of how much you can stuff in a box (I have a old P2 if that matters). I'm thinking of 2 tubes, 2 co2, etc.

thx

I've had the Di2 bike with the Vision 55 wheels for about a month now. No complaints with the wheels. It can get pretty windy where I am and I haven't had any issues with a twitchy front end yet.

I reached out to Cervelo because I couldn't find any info on the wheels online. They say they're comparable to the SC55 and weigh 1520g per pair which is pretty darn light for 55mm deep.

Agreed. I mean. Come on.

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I'm working on a rear box for the 56cm P Series, see picture of prototype on customer's bike. One more design change to fill in the gap between the rear of the frame and front the box and it should be good to go.



I'd like to design a box for the 51, 54 and 58 sizes as well. If there is anyone in the US willing to help out with some basic measurements, that would be great. Even better if you are in the San Francisco Bay Area.

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Does anybody have a manual for the P-Series?
Looking for a diagram and details for a Di2 install.
Where does the battery mount? What Cwrvelo parts do I need to install the Di2 components in the frame?
Any help appreciated
Cheers

Here is a link to a video of a di2 p-series build. [/url]

Is anyone using a stages power meter with this bike? Does it clear the chainstay?

I looked at this tonight, and yes, it can be done! 😄. I routed a cable from the top of the steerer, through the fork leg, and out the existing cable hole at the brake caliper. I just need a top cap and steerer tube expander so the cable can go through with the stem attached. Does anyone have a too cap and steerer expander recommendation that would work?

The FSA ACR compression nut could work.

Just picked mine up last week. And this thread needed some pics.

Its a 51 btw if you need help with data/measurements for anything.

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Yea I wasn't sold until I saw it in person. Its unreal how much it changes depending on the angle and light. Its a chameleon. This was just from a different angle and slightly different light. Has a deep blue/purple look to it. And in others its green. I definitely won't get bored of the color.

Congratulations on the new bike. Where are you located? I’m going to start on design for the 51cm and 54 this week

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Thanks, new bike day is always fun.

This might not help you, but I'm in NY. I saw your original post preferred the San Fran area. Still figured Id offer anything I can do to help, esp since I'll wanna buy one of whatever youre whipping up.

Please email me at yann@custombikexcessories.com with subject 51 cm P series, I'll send you some directions for measuring.

thanks

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Done

Here's the final production version of rear storage box for the 56 P Series.
You can order it here https://custombikexcessories.com/...lo-p-series-rear-box


I'll be starting work on 51 and 54 sized frames this week.

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To follow up on my original post, the internal front brake routing is done! I ordered a QR PRfour disc top cap/compression nut to drop the brake housing down the steerer tube. From there it comes right out the bottom of the fork. Front end is so much cleaner now!

Awesome job! The bike is so much greater now.

Looks great!

Where did you order the top cap and steerer tube expander, at a local QR dealer? (It's not on the European QR site.)

That looks great. Where did you order the parts from? Did you just call QR directly? I was considering switching the front/rear brake cables to see if that made a cleaner front end but this looks like a better solution.

I bought them through a local dealer, $40. But I had also called QR, and they will sell you the parts directly.

That's a nice find and mod. well done.

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I had been searching for this! I can't believe Cervelo didn't do this on their own. I love someone's statement on here who called it a "travesty". It's true. I hate seeing a cable jut out, especially since road bikes are able to hide the cables. Even a 2014 Trek SC hides all the cables. That was 6 years ago!

For those that have the P-Series with Di2 components, how have you tidied up or managed to hide your junction box?

Profile Design Aeroport + RS910 junction box
(and some wiring changes in the basebar)

How do you make that two port rs910 junction box work? Do you need to use three y-cable splitters in the basebar?

a JC130 Y-junction between the brake levers, then everything into a JC41 4 port.
In this example the battery is in the right extension (so I could use the seatpost battery holder in another bike that couldn't use the aeroport) so there is a JC130 there as well

It’s interesting that setup isn’t included stock from Cervelo. Possibly because of the Zipp Vuka carbon extensions?

I designed the aeroport with Cervelo in mind because the Di2 P3 was always so frustrating to build
But they haven't specced it, apparently it's ok to have a birds nest on an expensive bike.

Where do you hide the JC41 four port? I think I would still need to attach that to the stem like the 5 port junction box I’m trying to get rid of.

On that bike it's inside the stem. Have done it sitting inside the basebar on other bikes.

This is brilliant.

David - I have a 105 P-Series that I’d like to upgrade to Di2. Would you be able to help once I have the components?

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What have you used to plug the hole at the top of the form?

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Sure.
Shimano NZ have Ultegra Di2 parts now, which will likely last a week or two. Getting hold of Shimano stuff quite a problem atm.

Going to see if this will work. Have also sent a message to QR to see if they can ship one to NZ.

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I got a new Ultegra P-Series. I have the choice between shortening the front brake cable or feeding it through the steerer tube. Did anybody try the FSA ACR? and the drill a hole through the dust cap?

In any case I have to get the TRP bleeding kit and olives. Would be great to hear from some successful conversion from you before ordering stuff.

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See my earlier post on this. Order a Quintana Roo top cap and steerer plug. Cable will feed right through with no problem.

Thanks, it is not easy to get those Quintana Roo parts in Europe. I'll contact them.

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I went in their site and into the chat function. They got it sorted within a day and I paid.

Only problem is that the 2 I ordered are held up in Cincinnati for whatever reason.

That said, race season is almost done here in NZ so gives me time to source more Di2 pets and do the brake cable mod.

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Thanks. I just checked and in any case it would be a tight fit with the available cable length - I need to cut the fork head first. And before doing that I need to fine tune the fit so I’ll do this later (if ever).
I am considering a hydration solution now - FC15 or FC25 probably, this would also give me the support for my GPS. And a Powermeter (my old 4iiii has not the same crank length). And pedals (I am still on SPD).

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Nice.

I used the PD 1/seventeen stem abs Aeria faceplate. Then use the Aeria Hydration system. Works great. The only drawback is that damn cable.

Soon to be resolved.

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Post pictures when done. Would love to see how it comes together!

I'm taking delivery of my Di2P-Series this weekend (hopefully). I'm also replacing the cockpit with one from 51-Speedshop, which should help to tidy up the Di2 cables nicely. I'm planning on routing everything from the stem, through that little plastic aero piece, and into the bento box given there's enough length to the cables.

This is a great mod! I picked up a P-series Di2 yesterday.
Did you have to drill the extensions for cable routing? I’d really appreciate it if you could scribble a diagram of what you did.

Regards

Phil

I just wanted to post this update as I didn’t see anymore on the subject:
I purchased the fsa acr compression plug and began the process of internally routing that front brake cable.... the cable isn’t long enough even if stock, so you’ll need to make sure you have extra cable/fittings for this job.
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Great work, thx for the pictures. For my part, as I am also with mechanical shifting I just shortened the cable and forget about it - without electronic shifting you will never get this super clean look anyway.
And I added hydration, my tool and spare tu e bag etc. to the cockpit - I got quite full anyways!
BTW- I still did not find a neat solution for the GPS head unit between the aero bars (Lezyne GPS)…

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There’s still room to clean even cable shifting up using the right stem/aerobar/headset set up.
But if one is gonna drop that kind of money into it, they should just get the p5 disc.
I’ve also wondered about what forks fit on this as I’ve seen the p5 disc fork for sale..🤔

Got the new hydraulic line in, installed. Re bled, now it’s ready to ride. Very simple upgrade to make your p series your own.
Hopefully cervelo has taken notice and future p series will have that front cable hidden.

Sweet!

Hi has anyone tried a 140mm rear rotor on the cable disc 105? If so do just have to remove the 160mm spacer and was there enough braking?

Anyone in the San Francisco Bay Area with a 58cm P Series? I'm trying to design a rear box for it and need to take some measurements and test fit a prototype.

Here's the rear box I've designed for the 56 P Series


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Why would you want to go smaller?

Because I can only find a 140mm in stock anywhere in the UK and I need two 160mm for front wheels and 140mm is normally enough on the rear.

Looks like I'll be picking up a 2020 Di2 spec P series on Monday. I'm getting it second hand and there's some damage to the vision basebar.

I'm paying a price that would allow me to replace the bars within my budget, so I'm looking at all options, ideally I want it to look as clean and cable free as possible and have tilt adjustment.

Here's my options so far

1. Vision Metron TFA £700 https://www.wiggle.co.uk/...n-metron-tfa-aerobar
Top of the list so far. Super adjustable, cables could port out the back of the stem into the frame, but I spoke to vision and they say this isn't compatible with the acr expander to run the front brake hose through the steerer tube, so I'd have to send that out from the bottom of the bar/stem and into the top of the fork. Unless there's another expander that might make it work? There's a useful build report of a bmc with loads of pics of it here https://bikeboard.at/...tfahrlenker-th252071

And another less neat p series build using these bars here, but the front brake is routed externally.

2. The neatest I've seen so far, Chris Hall's. https://www.cervelo.com/...-custom-build-reveal

This uses PRO missile bars and stem
£930 (although his aerocoach extensions would double that) but the front brake cable is external.

3. Tririg alpha one £720 https://www.tririg.com/store.php?c=alphaone

Similar to the above options, no way of routing front brake through the steerer. Also the thread on here about the alpha one doesn't fill me with much confidence in these.

4. 51speedshop mono riser aerobar
Out of stock at the moment and same issues as above

Zipp and profile design have options for separate bars and stem but both quite expensive and would depend on finding a stem that would allow me to route cables through it.

I've looked at fsa/vision, deda vinci or dcr but none of these have the option to send cables out the back of the stem into the frame.

So, is there anything else I'm missing or haven't thought of?

Those of you who have routed through the steerer, would any of those work well doing the hydraulic brake hose at quite a tight angle?

Routing through the steerer is quite easy to do. You just need to get the expander plug that allows the brake hose to go into the steerer like FSA is making them.
I did this for my girls bike and the bend on top is quite acute, no problem. Very clean look ;-)

Jeroen

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FYI, people are using the FSA/Vision Systems with cables routes out the back. Just requires trimming the top cap cover

Thanks Jeroen, any chance of some pictures of that acute bend? It sounds like the guy from Vision was just being cautious, but I just want to be sure before I spend £700!

Was it this expander plug you used? I can't see any pictures or videos of it being installed.
https://shop.fullspeedahead.com/...093675926.1626386962

BigBoyND, the metron TFA looks like it comes with a space to route cables out the back of the stem section, will I have to trim it to make that possible?

No, that one has exit ports. I'm walking about the ACR stems

Has anyone replaced the grips or modified it somehow on the trp levers? They become extremely slippery when sweating a lot. (Live in Arizona)
I was even thinking of removing all the housing from the levers and wrapping them in tape.

Thought I’d check here for an easier option before attempting.

Silca TT stickers are thin and grippy

Do you have a link to any specific brand you recommend/use?

Silca is the brand: https://silca.cc/...nastro-aero-bar-tape

I also really like the Otion Micro-Cillia option: https://www.ebay.com/...6:g:RAcAAOSwH61cLzCA

Oh that’s dope. Def going to get that. Thanks for that!

https://www.controltechbikes.com/products/item/423.html

this should allow you to run through the steerer if that's how your fork is run.

That’s dope. Wish I had found that before I did mine, I’d have got all the cables in there!
But I ain’t re bleeding my brakes unless I absolutely have too.

Oh nice, I wasn't aware of this option. The FSA version is hard to find at the moment. Now I just need to find out whether my fork (Canyon Disc CF 8) allows for internal cabling.

i hope it's fine to revive this old thread since i just bought this bike (2020 version):

• Did anybody replace the TRP levers with Shimano ones? Is this possible without changing the calipers? OR are there people who made their peace with this "weird" shape / giant size?
• Is it normal/expected, that the seatpost is super long on my 51cm frame? I'll probably need to cut it (lowest level possible is approximately my seat height)
• If i wanted to get my cockpit slightly cleaner, what would be the easiest option? Just put the junction into the bento box (seems the cables are too short for that though)? I would like to start slow instead of changing the basebar right away or doing the "front brake internally" surgery
  

I put my junction box in the bento without changing the wires.

I replaced those awful TRP levers with Dura-Ace ones. They brake just fine. The mechanic at my local shop was even impressed with how good they felt. Regarding the bento box, I also relocated my junction box there. Note that I have a 51-Speedshop front end, but I think it's the same process with the stock cockpit. I cut a hole in the front of the bento, along with the other plastic piece covering the brake cable frame routing, and just stuffed it all into the bento. I also covered the junction box in foam so it doesn't rattle around.

Isn't there space for a smaller junction B in the stem/handlebars and then running a bar end junction A? That's how I routed my cables in my rim-brake P3. I now have one shift cable and one brake cable coming from the back of the stem/base bar.

Thanks a lot. Further comments:

Brakes:

• so you would say change to Shimano is a good investment? I'd like to decide right away so i can sell the old parts as "like new".
• To be sure: You did new levers, old calipers, old brake hose? Would be cheapest. However, it seems that Dura Ace Di2 ST-R9180 is mostly sold in combination with calipers - maybe i'll redo all at once then

Junction box:

• It seemed as if the cables from the brake levers were too short to put it into the bento box but i'll check again

I would say so. The TRP levers we too long to comfortably access (for me at least), and they were very slippery when my hands got sweaty. I was able to find some Dura-Ace levers on eBay, which is all that I replaced, although I think my local bike shop also had to replace the hose because it was juuuust too short. I kept the TRP calipers though.

I also had to replace some Di2 cable when replacing the cockpit, so that makes sense that I didn't run into that problem when relocation my junction box.

Having taken delivery of my 2019 p series ultegra back in December (was the last one in the Uk and so I ended up paying just a bit more than the frame set price) I’ve started getting it ready to race.

I’ve moved the di2 over from my 2008 p2, the shop kindly got me the seatpost battery for free.

Now it’s time to play with the front end

I’ll be installing the 3t ventus off my old bike as I really like them, and fit wise I don’t see much of a problem, but my aero coach angled spacers had crumbled so I’ve bought a set of the wattshop adjustable spacers, and I plan to get in touch with QR to see if I can get one of their top cap assemblies to do the through fork mod featured up thread.

The last piece of the puzzle will be wheels as the stock ones are pretty shallow and weigh a tonne, but I’m the bike can borrow my hollowgram 35: off my road bike for now!

So front end now just about sorted, I used the fsa acr compression bung, and routing the hose through the fork was surprisingly simple, although remembering to put top cap, and spacers on is a must before routing the hose through the bars!

In terms of top caps I milled a hole in an old top cap which works nicely.

Still a little work to do adjusting the front end now the bike is off the work stand, the extensions need to be trimmed at both ends and angles set on the wattshop adjustable wedges and some tweaking of the cables to tidy them up a bit more

I’m in conversation with a local machinist to make some matched spacers, and then will think about some race wheels.

I just installed the vision Metron integrated cockpit.
The acr plug works fine, if your doing it yourself.

So for y’all with the 2022 p series, how are the riderever triva brakes? I’m replacing my trp one with these.

Working on a bottom bracket box design for the P Series. I have finished the box to fit a 54 frame. See prototype below.
Looking for owners of 48, 51, 56 and 58 cm frames in the San Francisco Bay area to measure and test fit bottom bracket box for those sizes. Private message me if you can help.

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Thank you so much everyone for posting this information about how the front brake cable can be routed through the fork!!! This was my only gripe with the P-Series, and I couldn't justify 2-3x the cost of getting the P5 just for this.

I had no idea expander plugs with cable holes existed, and I found about 8 different options. While there are many solid options out there, I didn't want to deal with any faff so I just got this sketchy one from Amazon you can see below. Looking at AliExpress there are actually 3-4 of these different designs, but considering this one is so similar to a basic expander, I figure it's probably the best of the worst options.




Anyway, I managed to install it just fine. I like how the cable route is angled, so the cable is easier to feed into the handlebar. I also got a cheap aluminum top cap I drilled a hole into. The top cap bolt that comes with the P-Series is terrible, that thing is rusting and paint flaking off.

I went out for a test ride today with this new cable routing + handlebars + extensions + levers + waxed chain and saw some immense aero improvements. Probably mostly from everything not related to the cable, but it's still a solid gain :D

Now my only gripe with this bike is how annoying the rear derailleur cable is to feed through from the BB flap to the rear hole. Why couldn't Cervelo just add a funnel or something to the end so it just goes through first time, instead requiring me to do bicycle yoga with one hand feeding the cable and another holding my phone's light through the hole to see where I'm poking. Maybe I should just get one of those temporary cable guides to save myself some hassle...

Do you have better pictures of your setup? Are you running electronic shifting and hydraulic brakes?

Hi. 2019 P-Series owner here.

Has anyone removed the bento box from the frame? Either replaced it with something else or just left it off completely?

I am wondering
1. If it’s even possible
2. If there would be an aero penalty

I rarely use mine and sometimes have problems with my knee rubbing against it.

funny

You can easily remove the bento box, assuming you don't have anything routed/stored there. Not sure about the aero penalty I imagine it's negligible.