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Canyon Speedmax rear bottle cage mount
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Anybody know where to get one in the US? I called Canyon and they said they expect them in the next month or so. Was hoping to have one before St. George though.

Or, has anybody made a custom one? 3D printed or otherwise. Thanks!
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Re: Canyon Speedmax rear bottle cage mount [TCMiles] [ In reply to ]
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I asked at the Canyon booth at Oceanside. I talked to the sales team manager. They are getting back to me with more info, but probably a month. Same info you had.

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Re: Canyon Speedmax rear bottle cage mount [TCMiles] [ In reply to ]
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Ok, so I got tired of waiting. Asked a 3D printing savvy friend to help with this dilemma. Only the 2nd prototype, so we’re still tweaking the specs. But it’s very close....
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Re: Canyon Speedmax rear bottle cage mount [TCMiles] [ In reply to ]
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I am confident it will be any year now.

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Re: Canyon Speedmax rear bottle cage mount [TCMiles] [ In reply to ]
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Re: Canyon Speedmax rear bottle cage mount [TCMiles] [ In reply to ]
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Any chance you'll make the files available?
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Re: Canyon Speedmax rear bottle cage mount [TCMiles] [ In reply to ]
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Why so low?

It seems to me it would be both easier to reach and likely more aerodynamically advantageous to put it closer under the saddle. You could use essentially the same design but raise the bottle holder section so it projects close to the top of the bracket rather than near the bottom. This would also let you slide the bottle forward more thus reducing stress on the bracket and tidying it all up more - if either of those matters....
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Re: Canyon Speedmax rear bottle cage mount [aaburov] [ In reply to ]
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aaburov wrote:
Any chance you'll make the files available?
I’m not sure on the details, but we do want this to get out to fellow Speedmax owners.
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Re: Canyon Speedmax rear bottle cage mount [Ai_1] [ In reply to ]
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Why so low?

It seems to me it would be both easier to reach and likely more aerodynamically advantageous to put it closer under the saddle. You could use essentially the same design but raise the bottle holder section so it projects close to the top of the bracket rather than near the bottom. This would also let you slide the bottle forward more thus reducing stress on the bracket and tidying it all up more - if either of those matters....
This is absolutely being addressed in the next version. Trial and error.
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Re: Canyon Speedmax rear bottle cage mount [TCMiles] [ In reply to ]
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TCMiles wrote:
Anybody know where to get one in the US? I called Canyon and they said they expect them in the next month or so. Was hoping to have one before St. George though.

Or, has anybody made a custom one? 3D printed or otherwise. Thanks!

I'm guessing it's been a long month?

I think they're readily available here in Europe - Have you US customers considered getting them via European STers? Not as applicable for you, obviously, since you seem to be well on with a solution of your own.
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Re: Canyon Speedmax rear bottle cage mount [Liaman] [ In reply to ]
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What material are you using for the printing process?
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Re: Canyon Speedmax rear bottle cage mount [aaburov] [ In reply to ]
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You may want to reply directly to the poster which I quoted (TCMiles?), or they may not see your question
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Re: Canyon Speedmax rear bottle cage mount [Liaman] [ In reply to ]
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Liaman wrote:
TCMiles wrote:
Anybody know where to get one in the US? I called Canyon and they said they expect them in the next month or so. Was hoping to have one before St. George though.

Or, has anybody made a custom one? 3D printed or otherwise. Thanks!

I'm guessing it's been a long month?

I think they're readily available here in Europe - Have you US customers considered getting them via European STers? Not as applicable for you, obviously, since you seem to be well on with a solution of your own.

Hmm, last I checked it was not available anywhere. But that’s nice to know you European STers would be willing to help us Yanks out in the future ;)
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Re: Canyon Speedmax rear bottle cage mount [aaburov] [ In reply to ]
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What material are you using for the printing process?
We are currently using PLA for all prototyping. But I honestly think it will work just fine for the finished product as well.
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Re: Canyon Speedmax rear bottle cage mount [TCMiles] [ In reply to ]
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PETG would be my recommendation based on parts I made. PLA will deform at temps you’ll see basking in sun or in a car. ABS is too brittle in my experience printing think walled items (fairing and bento boxes). PETG has been best of both. Strong, easy to print, enough give not to crack. It’s what I use for pretty much anything I print now.

Ninja flex is my next material to try for hinges and tops.
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Re: Canyon Speedmax rear bottle cage mount [TCMiles] [ In reply to ]
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How is is fixed to the back of the bike/seat? Looks great btw. I'm interested to see the final product

the world's still turning? >>>>>>> the world's still turning
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Re: Canyon Speedmax rear bottle cage mount [Liaman] [ In reply to ]
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I looked into this with a colleague. Both the behind the seat and the Garmin mount. The exchange rate, VAT and shipping would result in almost 2x the cost.
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Re: Canyon Speedmax rear bottle cage mount [Jnags7] [ In reply to ]
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Agreed, PLA will definitely deform and eventually fail.

I would use nylon.
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Re: Canyon Speedmax rear bottle cage mount [Ellsworth53T] [ In reply to ]
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I have a spook of that. It’s strength is supposed to be awesome but harder to print and absorbs lots of water. Also 4x as much I think. I haven’t seen a benefit of that over PETG.
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Re: Canyon Speedmax rear bottle cage mount [Jnags7] [ In reply to ]
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Does anybody know what the official Canyon mount is made of?
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Re: Canyon Speedmax rear bottle cage mount [Jnags7] [ In reply to ]
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Interesting. I've not used it, but perhaps should have been on jobs where I used nylon.
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Re: Canyon Speedmax rear bottle cage mount [aaburov] [ In reply to ]
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aaburov wrote:
Does anybody know what the official Canyon mount is made of?

Unobtainium...

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Re: Canyon Speedmax rear bottle cage mount [Jnags7] [ In reply to ]
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Jnags7 wrote:
PETG would be my recommendation based on parts I made. PLA will deform at temps you’ll see basking in sun or in a car. ABS is too brittle in my experience printing think walled items (fairing and bento boxes). PETG has been best of both. Strong, easy to print, enough give not to crack. It’s what I use for pretty much anything I print now.

Ninja flex is my next material to try for hinges and tops.
Thanks for the info. We will definitely look into this. Much appreciated!
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Re: Canyon Speedmax rear bottle cage mount [Fuller] [ In reply to ]
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I wonder if it would be possible to create a carbon fiber version of it...
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Re: Canyon Speedmax rear bottle cage mount [Callin'] [ In reply to ]
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Callin' wrote:
How is is fixed to the back of the bike/seat? Looks great btw. I'm interested to see the final product
The Speedmax has bolt bosses built into the back of the seapost. So it attaches with standard bottle cage bolts.
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Re: Canyon Speedmax rear bottle cage mount [aaburov] [ In reply to ]
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The hard cost would probably be in making the mold. However if this is same size and shape across any frame, I’d give it a go.

I’d need the file tho as I don’t have access to canyon to mock up myself.
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Re: Canyon Speedmax rear bottle cage mount [Ellsworth53T] [ In reply to ]
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When I said 4x I meant cost. Spool is 500g and $40 where PETG is 1kg and $20.
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Re: Canyon Speedmax rear bottle cage mount [Jnags7] [ In reply to ]
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Yeah, I understood. I know nylon is expensive. After your post I looked up Petg and I think you're right about using that as the material.
I'm not an engineer or fabricator; just an architect. We use 3d printers for scaled models so PLA is all I ever use at work. I haven't had to deal with other materials. I got Nylon previously to play around with for bike parts.
I didn't type this post or the last very concisely, but it's Friday, and I'm exhausted. I don't have a speedmax but ill keep following to see what comes of this.
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Re: Canyon Speedmax rear bottle cage mount [Fuller] [ In reply to ]
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Fuller wrote:
aaburov wrote:
Does anybody know what the official Canyon mount is made of?


Unobtainium...
This is too funny to not point it out. Genius! *thumbs up*
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Re: Canyon Speedmax rear bottle cage mount [TCMiles] [ In reply to ]
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I know your thread is old, but did you ever get the 3D printed rear water mount figured out? If so do you have a file for it?
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Re: Canyon Speedmax rear bottle cage mount [lonniecdams] [ In reply to ]
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lonniecdams wrote:
I know your thread is old, but did you ever get the 3D printed rear water mount figured out? If so do you have a file for it?

I actually did get a finished design. Unfortunately, it was at almost the exact time that Canyon got their mounts in stock. Therefore, I bought the mount from Canyon since it worked better for my setup with the Varia rear unit. I'll post a pic of the mount later.
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Re: Canyon Speedmax rear bottle cage mount [TCMiles] [ In reply to ]
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Sorry for the shit quality. Uploading pics to slowtwitch is painful.
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Re: Canyon Speedmax rear bottle cage mount [TCMiles] [ In reply to ]
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Very interested to see what kind of Varia mount you are using.
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Re: Canyon Speedmax rear bottle cage mount [bigsas] [ In reply to ]
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bigsas wrote:
Very interested to see what kind of Varia mount you are using.

I'm using the stock Varia mount. It fits nicely between the Canyon bottle cage mount and the space on the seatpost. I actually had a problem with the Varia moving around while riding. With the rear mount, it holds it in place. Nice bonus!


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Re: Canyon Speedmax rear bottle cage mount [TCMiles] [ In reply to ]
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That is a great set up for sure! Now if only I could get my hands on a bottle holder.
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Re: Canyon Speedmax rear bottle cage mount [TCMiles] [ In reply to ]
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That the setup that I had originally, but I've never been a fan of Garmin's attachment approach, doesn't feel very secure to me having a $200 device held in place by two rubber bands.

My seat post is up higher, so I was able to approach this by installing a Wolf Tooth B-RAD 3 slot mounting system with addition of a K-Edge Garmin mount.







On another note, how are you guys installing a single bottle cage. My Canyon Tri Bottle holder didn't come with any instructions and I haven't been able to find anything online. Initially I installed the angled bracket with a bottle cage, but the bottle wasn't completely sittitng in the cage, so I removed the angled bracket and installed the bottle cage straight.
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Re: Canyon Speedmax rear bottle cage mount [bigsas] [ In reply to ]
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That’s a solid setup, nice work.

I installed mine with the straight single bottle cage setup. Just used the 2 bolts to connect the bottle cage to the mount. I didn’t use either of the 2 additional brackets (single side angle or dual cage).
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Re: Canyon Speedmax rear bottle cage mount [TCMiles] [ In reply to ]
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Just checked the Canyon US site and they have the mounts available...

Cheers
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korus1409 wrote:
Just checked the Canyon US site and they have the mounts available...

Cheers

Seems to have been out of stock again for quite a while.

Anyone made a call or heard anything from a rep?
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Re: Canyon Speedmax rear bottle cage mount [westandrew] [ In reply to ]
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westandrew wrote:
korus1409 wrote:
Just checked the Canyon US site and they have the mounts available...

Cheers


Seems to have been out of stock again for quite a while.

Anyone made a call or heard anything from a rep?
When I ordered mine I just called them up, had it 2 days later.
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Re: Canyon Speedmax rear bottle cage mount [TCMiles] [ In reply to ]
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Sorry for the shit quality. Uploading pics to slowtwitch is painful.

Resurrecting this thread again as I think the Canyon tri bottle holder is a great aerodynamic option if you only need 1 rear mounted bottle. I'd like to get my hands on this but think it is obscene to pay 100 bucks for this simple piece.

Can you share the 3D printing file please? I have access to a carbon fiber printer and want to test this file out with different materials. I think the custom design looks just fine. As long as it fits snug and the bolt holes line up with a typical bottle cage, it should work as intended.

Thanks in advance!
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Re: Canyon Speedmax rear bottle cage mount [trifi3] [ In reply to ]
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PM sent
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Re: Canyon Speedmax rear bottle cage mount [TCMiles] [ In reply to ]
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Hello! great job! Could you send me the STL file? Thank you and have a nice ride!
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Re: Canyon Speedmax rear bottle cage mount [TCMiles] [ In reply to ]
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I don't mean to pile on, but I also would like it, if you would please!
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Re: Canyon Speedmax rear bottle cage mount [lubemupski] [ In reply to ]
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Sorry for the delayed/lack of responses. I realized the Slowtwitch notifications were going to my junk folder, so I was never seeing them. If you want the file, shoot me a PM with your email and I'll send it over.
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Re: Canyon Speedmax rear bottle cage mount [TCMiles] [ In reply to ]
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Hey, if there is no problem, can I have the STL file too? Thank you!
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Re: Canyon Speedmax rear bottle cage mount [TCMiles] [ In reply to ]
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TCMiles wrote:
Callin' wrote:
How is is fixed to the back of the bike/seat? Looks great btw. I'm interested to see the final product

The Speedmax has bolt bosses built into the back of the seapost. So it attaches with standard bottle cage bolts.


Is this the same with the Speedmax CF 7.0 (NOT the SLX)? I can't seem to find any documentation or closeups of how to mount them. My Speedmax CF 7.0 seems to have two holes in the back of the seatpost, which I'm assuming is where it attaches. Just confused because mine seems to have rubber inserts? I'm assuming that this is done to protect the threads, and is designed to be pulled out.

But, given how low that bottom screw is, I don't think I'd even have the clearance to be able to use the rear mount.


https://i.imgur.com/P0997BL.jpg
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Re: Canyon Speedmax rear bottle cage mount [lavantgarde] [ In reply to ]
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I can’t speak with 100% confidence because I don’t own a CF model, but for the SLX the 2 rubber plugs are meant to be removed to attach the rear bottle mount bolts. Your bottom hole looks just barely too low for the rear mount to work. If your bike fit allows it, raise the seatpost a few mm’s and it should work.
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Re: Canyon Speedmax rear bottle cage mount [TCMiles] [ In reply to ]
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Yeah that's what I figured, thanks. That's certainly what it looks like here. They're very difficult to get out though, gonna need tweezers or something. Canyon is out of stock of the holder anyway, so no point just yet. I ordered the Mistica rear cages instead: cheaper and no need to adjust the seatpost even if just a tiny amount.
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Re: Canyon Speedmax rear bottle cage mount [TCMiles] [ In reply to ]
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Anyone managed to get the file from TCMiles please ? :D

So looking forward to print it !

Got a race pretty soon and a bottle of water would be helpful :D


Thanks !
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Re: Canyon Speedmax rear bottle cage mount [TCMiles] [ In reply to ]
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HI

it looks really good, i would like to test it on my new speedmax cf slx disc
do you have the stl file?

kind regards
Jonas
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Re: Canyon Speedmax rear bottle cage mount [Winol] [ In reply to ]
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Winol wrote:
TCMiles wrote:
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Anyone managed to get the file from TCMiles please ? :D

So looking forward to print it !

Got a race pretty soon and a bottle of water would be helpful :D


Thanks !
Files sent. Hope it works for you. Good luck on your race.
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Re: Canyon Speedmax rear bottle cage mount [jol] [ In reply to ]
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jol wrote:
HI

it looks really good, i would like to test it on my new speedmax cf slx disc
do you have the stl file?

kind regards
Jonas

PM me your email and I will send it over.

FYI, this was designed for the previous version Speedmax. I believe the seatpost is quite similar for the new disc version, so the mount should work. But you may want to check to be certain.
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Re: Canyon Speedmax rear bottle cage mount [TCMiles] [ In reply to ]
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It looks like the file size is just small enough to fit on the attachment upload. So you all should be able to download the mount file below. Cheers!
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Re: Canyon Speedmax rear bottle cage mount [TCMiles] [ In reply to ]
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Thanks!
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Re: Canyon Speedmax rear bottle cage mount [TCMiles] [ In reply to ]
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Canyon does not have any of these stock ones available on their site.

I'd love to buy one of these custom ones for my new Speedmax CF 7. Is there any way I could purchase a custom printed one from anyone that's been successful?

Thanks!
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Re: Canyon Speedmax rear bottle cage mount [epg0] [ In reply to ]
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Just reviving this old thread. Does anyone have any current intel on the status of Canyon's rear cage mount? The website just says "unavailable" as if it has been discontinued.

Alternatively, does anyone have experience with the Fizik Mistica carriage kit? That's the only other available option I see. Thanks
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Re: Canyon Speedmax rear bottle cage mount [jpk_phx] [ In reply to ]
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Just reviving this old thread. Does anyone have any current intel on the status of Canyon's rear cage mount? The website just says "unavailable" as if it has been discontinued.

Alternatively, does anyone have experience with the Fizik Mistica carriage kit? That's the only other available option I see. Thanks

Have you tried calling Canyon? I bought mine via calling even though the website said it was out of stock. Calling is the fastest way to get anything from them.

Cheers, Ray
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Re: Canyon Speedmax rear bottle cage mount [TX83] [ In reply to ]
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TX83 wrote:
jpk_phx wrote:
Just reviving this old thread. Does anyone have any current intel on the status of Canyon's rear cage mount? The website just says "unavailable" as if it has been discontinued.

Alternatively, does anyone have experience with the Fizik Mistica carriage kit? That's the only other available option I see. Thanks

Have you tried calling Canyon? I bought mine via calling even though the website said it was out of stock. Calling is the fastest way to get anything from them.
Are you in the US? How much did you pay for shipping? I can find it on their European website but out of stock on the US site.
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Re: Canyon Speedmax rear bottle cage mount [AvocadoToast] [ In reply to ]
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Yes, I'm in the US. I want to say shipping was like $15.

Cheers, Ray
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Re: Canyon Speedmax rear bottle cage mount [TX83] [ In reply to ]
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TX83 wrote:
Yes, I'm in the US. I want to say shipping was like $15.
Awesome. I’ll give them a call and see if I can get one of these things! Thanks for the tip.
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TX83 wrote:
Yes, I'm in the US. I want to say shipping was like $15.

Awesome. I’ll give them a call and see if I can get one of these things! Thanks for the tip.

Very welcome. Hopefully they have one for you! I've always had better luck calling them rather than waiting for something to show up on their website since it's so slow to update. It's how I've also got all my bikes from them :)

Cheers, Ray
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Re: Canyon Speedmax rear bottle cage mount [TX83] [ In reply to ]
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Thanks, I will call. I sent an email but that must be basically useless. They were exceptionally quick to get the bike to my front door after I ordered it, however.
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Thanks, I will call. I sent an email but that must be basically useless. They were exceptionally quick to get the bike to my front door after I ordered it, however.

Yup, email and checking the website is useless for Canyon USA. Phone call is the only way to go with them.

Cheers, Ray
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Re: Canyon Speedmax rear bottle cage mount [TX83] [ In reply to ]
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TX83 wrote:
AvocadoToast wrote:
TX83 wrote:
Yes, I'm in the US. I want to say shipping was like $15.

Awesome. I’ll give them a call and see if I can get one of these things! Thanks for the tip.

Very welcome. Hopefully they have one for you! I've always had better luck calling them rather than waiting for something to show up on their website since it's so slow to update. It's how I've also got all my bikes from them :)

Just heard back, out of stock 😭
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Re: Canyon Speedmax rear bottle cage mount [AvocadoToast] [ In reply to ]
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Yea I’ve been on the hunt too. Can’t find one!
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Re: Canyon Speedmax rear bottle cage mount [epg0] [ In reply to ]
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You would think they could make the same amount of them as they make of the bike. Or include one with the bike for that matter (it looks from the manual like they originally did so). Who is buying the bike who doesn't want one?
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Re: Canyon Speedmax rear bottle cage mount [jpk_phx] [ In reply to ]
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I have one available to purchase that I've never mounted. DM me.
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Re: Canyon Speedmax rear bottle cage mount [AvocadoToast] [ In reply to ]
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They have them in stock on the Canyon UK site. In fact they have two different versions and the new one is even more stupid expensive than the older one. I have no idea what you were expecting for price but the new model is £101.95 which is $140 and that doesn't include a cage or shipping.

Previously I was only aware of a single version so I suspect this means the new one is pretty new and may be on its way to Canyon shelves in the US. You could also press Canyon as to why they can't ship you one from the UK but getting one from the UK could prove even more expensive if you get hit with an import/customs fee.
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Re: Canyon Speedmax rear bottle cage mount [FairDestroyer] [ In reply to ]
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Still selling canyon Speedmax rear single bottle mount?
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Re: Canyon Speedmax rear bottle cage mount [TCMiles] [ In reply to ]
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any way of getting a different flie format? This one does not seem to be supported anywhere. Thank you
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