Thank you.

To clarify: kileyay's point is that the saddle is your most important piece of equipment. What we wrote was that 'some of Wove's DNA can be found in kileyay's post.' He is claiming that the right saddle can mean an increase in watts and reduction in drag. He is not saying that saddle is a Wove saddle (Wove did not exist when he wrote that post) and other than sharing how much our saddle weighs, we are not making performance-gain statements. We agree with Kiley that the saddle is the most important piece of cycling equipment.

In that same post, mathematics wrote, "The right saddle isn't necessarily +30 watts, but the wrong saddle can easily be -30 watts."

While Wove did not exist when kileay wrote that post, he was aware that I was prototyping saddles. We both lived in Philadelphia while I was working on my PhD and we spent a good chunk of time biking together and having lively conversations that are reflected in Wove's products and values. Here's the saddle I was riding/testing at that time: link here.

Innovation: having carbon rails made of unidirectional carbon fiber that spreads throughout the entire shell of the saddle and both pieces being molded at the same time and greatly surpassing ISO standards with 7mm round carbon rails. And then molding liquid foam and cover material directly onto the shell at the same time and doing all of this at a sub-140g weight. (without foam, our shell+rails weighs 70g)

- Maybe you'd need to hold this super light, 30cm long saddle in your hand and see just how well padded the saddle is to truly appreciate all of this.
- Maybe you'd need to work in composites to appreciate this.
- Maybe you'd need to understand that ISO testing consists of 250,000 repetitions of 240lb/1,000 newton-metres on the rear of the saddle - again, we greatly surpassed that weight/force.
If all of that is not considered innovation... well I'll be damned. ha.

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