Zwift racing questions (many, possibly dumb)

so i’ve been racing on zwift since the early days where we used countdown timers to start. im pretty serious about it and most days make almost all the splits in the a group.

but i am busy and have never really learned much, i just jump in and give it. i’ve been sick for a couple weeks and am missing my racing fixes, and have realized there is a lot i don’t understand.

what happened to the serious organized races? the kiss series seems to be alive, but ztr, cvr, all gone?
is there something better than zwiftpower to find races in?
is there anywhere where people discuss the races after?
why/how do people get the DRAFT tag on their names? does it mean something?
i see other little acronyms and stuff after names. are those teams?
i have KISS/ZTR A on my name cause i added them back when you had to to get results. do you still need that?
is there any audio chat planned? often when i am trying to make breakaways stick, i wish i could talk.
is everyone happy with double draft? i find its very hard to get away now, and if you get elbowed out of the pack, it is exceedingly difficult to get back on.
further to that, is it just luck when you get pushed out of the draft? or is there like a technique?
sometimes i see people have little messages bubble after their name. how the heck are they typing while racing?

i gotta say, i LOVE racing on zwift. its basically replaced intervals for me in the winter. cheaters, no cheaters, whatever, i’ve never been able to hit high HR indoors like this for so long till zwift races.

I have no answers for you, sorry. I do have a question to ask though. I had a ST kit and seemed to have lost it. Now I cant seem to get it back. obviously I can still post on ST so its not like Dan banned me from all things ST :wink: Any ideas? And yes Ive tried entering the promo code again…nothing.

what happened to the serious organized races? the kiss series seems to be alive, but ztr, cvr, all gone?
**I use the companion app, seem to be lots of races out there. CVR is developing a Zwift competitor (CVRCade) **
is there something better than zwiftpower to find races in?
**See above **
is there anywhere where people discuss the races after?
**Some series have facebook groups where that stuff goes on **
why/how do people get the DRAFT tag on their names? does it mean something?
**It’s a team **
i see other little acronyms and stuff after names. are those teams?
**Usually a team or might be required for a race series (i.e. the ZHR masters races auto-DQ you unless you have ZHR and your age category after your name) **
i have KISS/ZTR A on my name cause i added them back when you had to to get results. do you still need that?
**It depends, some series require it, many don’t (usually tells you so if you look up the event on the zwift website or companion app) **
is there any audio chat planned? often when i am trying to make breakaways stick, i wish i could talk.
**I think most who use voice use discord, also usually listed in the event description **
is everyone happy with double draft? i find its very hard to get away now, and if you get elbowed out of the pack, it is exceedingly difficult to get back on.
**I like it **
further to that, is it just luck when you get pushed out of the draft? or is there like a technique?
**Quite often what you see is not what other people see (so even when it looks like you are getting pushed out of the draft, you actually are not, easiest way to tell is if your rider sits up or not) **
sometimes i see people have little messages bubble after their name. how the heck are they typing while racing?
**Companion app, either typing or dictating **

what happened to the serious organized races? the kiss series seems to be alive, but ztr, cvr, all gone?

There are more - and more varied - options than before. As the platform has grown, I think you’re just seeing more diversity. In the case of CVR, they’ve left to do their own thing from the ground up. We’ll (meaning Zwift… I work for them) be doing a lot more as we expand in eSports more generally - https://zwift.com/news/10822-kiss-super-league/

*is there something better than zwiftpower to find races in? *

Not right now. But we’re working to make zwift.com/events/ more robust in this regard. ZwiftHacks’ Event calendar is also great - https://zwifthacks.com/app/events/

is there anywhere where people discuss the races after?

The Facebook pages for the various groups, most typically. Though we just launched our own forum as well that you can feel free to use as well because we actively monitor it (we could never monitor all the facebook groups) - https://forums.zwift.com/

why/how do people get the DRAFT tag on their names? does it mean something?

DRAFT is a “team” (or club) like KISS, 3R (formerly WBR), DIRT, etc.

i see other little acronyms and stuff after names. are those teams?

Yup. Well, almost always. You might see something like ZHQ (Zwift Headquarters) for those of us that also have the little orange Z indicating we are Zwift staff.

*i have KISS/ZTR A on my name cause i added them back when you had to to get results. do you still need that? *

ZwiftPower still uses that stuff for filtering.

*is there any audio chat planned? often when i am trying to make breakaways stick, i wish i could talk. *

We’ve certainly talked about it. Discord seems to be the go-to for now, but I suspect we may consider this more strongly as a built-in feature as eSports grows. No planned ETA for it currently though.

*is everyone happy with double draft? i find its very hard to get away now, and if you get elbowed out of the pack, it is exceedingly difficult to get back on. *

Very mixed. Modifications to the double draft algorithm is one of the projects I am currently working on and which will be a focus of mine in January.

*further to that, is it just luck when you get pushed out of the draft? or is there like a technique? *

There’s a lot of technique. There are certain things that we do algorithmically that it takes some time to get the “feel” of - and it will also depend on your own particular setup a bit as well.

sometimes i see people have little messages bubble after their name. how the heck are they typing while racing?

it’s pretty easy with Zwift Companion and the speech-to-text built into most smartphones. Some people also used some of the keyboard apps that allow for quick built in text-shortcuts to generate commonly used phrases with only a couple keystrokes.

Racing has evolved on Zwift pretty organically. We’re aiming to preserve that but also give some more structure to it with our focus on eSports. Certainly plenty of people who know a lot more about racing on Zwift than I do in terms of tactics/teams/etc. I’ve done my share of races, but I much prefer Zwift as a training platform (though races are certainly fantastic training). But on any of the technical side, I’m happy to answer what questions I can.

Not trying to hijack the thread here, but how about my question of not being able to get the ST kit back?

That’s weird… I actually don’t know. If the promo code isn’t working, that means we must think you still have it. Are you sure it’s not just hidden in the jersey selection menu? The grab-and-drag functionality of that menu is not always the most intuitive thing. So it may just be hidden way off to the right side of the available jerseys…

I’ll add a couple of questions as a new Zwift user.

How often or when should you update your weight as it changed? +/- 5 lb difference or less?

I’m still trying to figure out/get use to the yo yo effects When riding at the front of a group. I assume this is normal at the beginning and just takes some time to get use to VR style riding.

What level do you need to be at to start the Everest Challenge and others? I just started Zwifting last week (only a level 7), but the only goal I see I can currently set is a weekly/monthly mileage goal…nothing else.

Where can you view race results? The few I have done…different groups/different amount of laps but the finish often seem to get mixed with multiple groups…so seeing the quick results live are impossible as they are either mixed or show the shorter lap riders first and can see deeper down to another group.

Jordan Rapp answered all of your questions really well, so I won’t try to re-answer them.

My one recommendation is to join Zwift Racers on Facebook—the group is where a lot of races are promoted/discussed. I get most of my information for races, series, etc on there. I also promote my race series through that group.

There is a lot of junk posted as well, but after a few days you’ll be able to mentally filter out that garbage.

Other places to look for series/events is just on ZwiftPower. There is a tab at the top of the page “Leagues” and it lists all of the race series. For instance, my race series—The Morning Grind Fondo p/b DRAFT and DIRT—lists the series standings, upcoming races, series description, etc. Other series do the same Wahooligan Super League, SZR Winter Series, KISS Midweek League, etc.

Feel free to PM me with any questions, I have a pretty good handle on the Zwift racing scene.

What level do you need to be at to start the Everest Challenge and others? I just started Zwifting last week (only a level 7), but the only goal I see I can currently set is a weekly/monthly mileage goal…nothing else.

No certain level needed, challanges are available from the menu in-game.
https://zwiftinsider.com/climb-mt-everest/

What level do you need to be at to start the Everest Challenge and others? I just started Zwifting last week (only a level 7), but the only goal I see I can currently set is a weekly/monthly mileage goal…nothing else.

No certain level needed, challanges are available from the menu in-game.
https://zwiftinsider.com/climb-mt-everest/

I must be missing the obvious. I can’t see the Challenge portion anywhere under the menu section.
Trying to upload a screenshot of my menu page but not able to right now.

I must be missing the obvious. I can’t see the Challenge portion anywhere under the menu section.
Trying to upload a screenshot of my menu page but not able to right now.

Should look something like:
http://www.sportiverider.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/zwift_mission_select-768x522.jpg
(Image not mine, from http://www.sportiverider.co.uk)

Not sure what is in the circled area if no challenge is selected or if one is preselected

Bingo!
Thanks. Assuming you can only do one challenge at a time? Looks like I am doing the Tour of California right now…figures I did an 8000’ climbing ride today.

Jordan, thank you for this. Yes it was way, way, way off to the right side of the available jersey options. Further than the lazy one wanted to look I guess.

2 more quick questions:

  1. Is there any way to turn off the names and info from the riders nearby while running?
  2. When I finish a ride, is there a way to start a run besides exiting the program and logging back in again and racing the clock to switch from another ride to run before the auto start selects it for you?
  1. not currently. we’re working on that though

  2. yup. you just go into the pause menu, go into the PAIRING screen, and switch from ride to run. We’ll automatically close the FIT file from your ride and start a new one for running.

thanks! this is very helpful! it also confirms my suspicion that there are organized tactics taking places at the front of the a races sometimes.

these discord channels, are there any ones like ‘race radio’, or do you have to have been invited by a team to a private one?

Additional question…if I’m doing a ride and then go join an “event or race” and when the event is finished continue to ride. Does Zwift log the total mileage/info for ALL riding or just the event info or do I need to end/save each ride portion.

Certain teams have their own discord channels where they talk during races/rides. And I can confirm tactics are discussed during races.

In the situation you provided, you would get two separate files created. One for the riding around and another for the event. The second file will also include any post-event riding.

You could potentially get three files if your event is held on the not-regularly-scheduled world…and at the end of your event, you chose to ‘leave’ the world and return to the regularly scheduled world for the post-event riding.

Additional question…if I’m doing a ride and then go join an “event or race” and when the event is finished continue to ride. Does Zwift log the total mileage/info for ALL riding or just the event info or do I need to end/save each ride portion.

When you join an event, we automatically start a new FIT file. But when the event ends, we just continue that FIT file. Basically, anytime we “teleport” you, we make a new FIT file. Because otherwise Strava (and most other logs) will just automatically connect the dots and you’ll get a really strange distance jump from the teleport.

Hi Jordan,

Rather than start a new thread and be chastised I think this fits here.

Is there any place/way to find just events that I have registered for? I find the whole event interface to be somewhat lacking in filtering options.