WSJ article on "The Mental Tricks of Athletic Endurance"

Really good article on new and old research on mental side…

“New research suggests that even weekend athletes can dramatically extend their physical and psychological limits”
“Answers are starting to emerge from a remarkable new body of research on human performance, and the findings have lessons not just for Olympians but for everyone else, too. All of us, it turns out, are capable of pushing back the physical and psychological limits that we encounter at the gym, on the trails and in our sporting adventures. The feeling that you can go no further is just that—a feeling. And feelings can be changed.”

https://www.wsj.com/...endurance-1517583851

Maybe the .22 starter’s pistol was a bit odd…

This article is only available with a WSJ subscription :frowning:

Is this article about the central governor theory?

This article is only available with a WSJ subscription :frowning:

Is this article about the central governor theory?

Hmmm…Odd, it came up for me. I read it through a FB post. I wonder if there’s a way to make it available? It’s a really good article and I hate it when they do these subscription only accesses. Sorry to any who got that…anyone know how I can do a workaround? I just clicked on my share in FB and it came up fine. ???

This article is only available with a WSJ subscription :frowning:

Is this article about the central governor theory?

Hmmm…Odd, it came up for me. I read it through a FB post. I wonder if there’s a way to make it available? It’s a really good article and I hate it when they do these subscription only accesses. Sorry to any who got that…anyone know how I can do a workaround? I just clicked on my share in FB and it came up fine. ???

Wow, I tried it on a different browser and it loaded the article. I have no idea what that is about. I guess disregard my comment I guess haha… I am gonna read it now :). I like sports psychology stuff

This article is only available with a WSJ subscription :frowning:

Is this article about the central governor theory?

Hmmm…Odd, it came up for me. I read it through a FB post. I wonder if there’s a way to make it available? It’s a really good article and I hate it when they do these subscription only accesses. Sorry to any who got that…anyone know how I can do a workaround? I just clicked on my share in FB and it came up fine. ???

Wow, I tried it on a different browser and it loaded the article. I have no idea what that is about. I guess disregard my comment I guess haha… I am gonna read it now :). I like sports psychology stuff

Hey, glad it came up for you. I think it’s pretty great stuff and I love these type of ideas along with you. I have used much of this self talk for a very long time, especially the part of ignoring negative talk in heat. Really great stuff! Hope you find some jewels in there…

It is a good article, thank you for sharing. If you like reading this sort of stuff and are looking for a book, I recommend “How Bad Do You Want It” by Matt Fitzgerald. The TrainerRoad podcast turned me on to it and it is worth a read.

The firing of the pistol is funny. On a similar token, imagine if someone had you do a 20 min TT on a trainer to the best of your ability. You go out, try your hardest and produce the best result you could in the moment. Now imagine the next day someone held a gun to your head and said to beat the result you did the day prior. I would venture to guess most people would be able to beat their original test knowing their life was on the line (the threat of death is not going to take a 200W avg to a 600W avg, but the threat of death may increase the result incrementally). If that scenario holds true, then what is limiting your performance on any given day? I tend to believe that physiologically you have a maximum potential on a given day, but it is psychology that determines how close you come to your maximum physiological potential.

Interesting article, thanks for sharing.

Two thoughts: maybe we shouldn’t be looking at our electronics as much during our race. And secondly, who’s going to be first in marketing transcranial direct-current stimulation, or tDCS to triathletes:)?

I agree that the mind is so powerful, and the article even states that physiology seldom decides who wins a marathon. So true. I have that podcast and started it. The narrator’s voice drives me nuts, so I have to give it another go. I’m with you in working on the mind…

Interesting article, thanks for sharing.

Two thoughts: maybe we shouldn’t be looking at our electronics as much during our race. And secondly, who’s going to be first in marketing transcranial direct-current stimulation, or tDCS to triathletes:)?

Glad you got something from it. I completely agree on following devices…I can recall so many running races where everyone looked at their watch at the first mile and determined they were out either too fast or too slow and it ruined their race. Metrics can often hurt our performances as well and this article surely shows that. I found it very interesting where the cyclists performed better in a hot environment when the thermometers were rigged to show lower. The mind is so powerful…good and bad.

Hello Tennesseejed and All,

Here is another source: https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#!topic/cycling-physiology/N_0JWAiR2jk
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Hello Tennesseejed and All,

Here is another source: https://groups.google.com/...ysiology/N_0JWAiR2jk

Thanks Neal, but…

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The Mental Tricks of Athletic Endurance
New research suggests that even weekend athletes can dramatically extend their physical and psychological limits
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ILLUSTRATION: ANDY POTTS
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Alex Hutchinson**
Feb. 2, 2018 10:04 a.m. ET
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For the Slovenian cross-country skier Petra Majdič, the unlikely key to Olympic glory was misdiagnosis.
While warming up for her first race at the 2010 Winter Games in Vancouver, Ms. Majdič skidded off an icy corner and fell more than 10 feet into a rocky creek bed. She dragged herself to an on-site medical tent for an ultrasound. “I don’t know,” the doctor said, “but it looks like everything is OK.”
Sure, she was in excruciating pain that made her shriek every time she exhaled. But the pain, she believed, was just in her head. As long as nothing was broken, her decision was clear. “Can I go?” she asked. The doctor said yes.
Later that evening, after gritting her teeth through a qualifying race, a quarterfinal, a semifinal and a final where she fought to an improbable bronze medal in the classic sprint, she finally went to the hospital—where she was diagnosed, correctly this time, with four broken ribs. The stabbing pain she’d felt during the semifinal? That was one of the broken ribs puncturing her lung, which then collapsed. She missed the rest of the Games and was in the hospital for nearly a week.
Such tales are a staple of Olympic lore, a stirring reminder of the heights to which athletes can rise with a medal on the line. In the coming weeks, as the world’s fleetest and toughest converge on South Korea for this year’s Winter Games, we will undoubtedly see more extraordinary feats of endurance. But how, exactly, do the athletes do it? Is it just a matter of physical prowess and training, or is there something else going on in these superhuman exertions?
Answers are starting to emerge from a remarkable new body of research on human performance, and the findings have lessons not just for Olympians but for everyone else, too. All of us, it turns out, are capable of pushing back the physical and psychological limits that we encounter at the gym, on the trails and in our sporting adventures. The feeling that you can go no further is just that—a feeling. And feelings can be changed.
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Slovenia’s Petra Majdič skied during the women’s individual sprint classic cross-country final at the Vancouver 2010 Winter Olympics despite having broken ribs—and won a bronze. Right, a team official helped her to the podium.PHOTO: STEFAN WERMUTH/REUTERS; ISSEI KATO/REUTERS
Early studies of endurance focused, naturally, on the body. Physiologists pieced together an impressively detailed picture of the factors that—in theory—dictate our ultimate capacity. “Our bodies are machines whose energy expenditures may be closely measured,” wrote the pioneering (and Nobel Prize-winning) sports scientist A.V. Hill in 1926. As the mysteries of muscle contraction and metabolism were decoded, endurance began to seem like a question of plumbing—whose heart could deliver the most oxygen-rich blood through the widest vessels to the biggest muscles.
There was one big problem with this approach: It couldn’t predict who would win an athletic contest. No matter how accurately you measure physiological parameters like oxygen delivery, you’d be a fool to use that data to bet on the outcome of, say, a marathon. Clearly, something was missing from the “human machine” picture of athletic limits.
Hill and other early researchers soon realized that psychology must play a key role. In 1961, a pair of scientists at George Williams College in Chicago showed that they could boost the maximum strength of weightlifting volunteers by 7.4% if an experimenter sneaked up behind the subject and fired a .22-caliber starter’s pistol just before the lift. It was among the first (and most bizarre) attempts to demonstrate that the limits we perceive as physical and absolute are often negotiable and mediated by the brain.
The precise nature of the mind-muscle connection remains hotly disputed today, but most researchers accept the essential point: that the physical manifestations of fatigue—racing heart, elevated core temperature, a rising tide of metabolites like lactate in the blood—merely serve as sources of information for the brain, rather than direct limits on our ability to continue.
Starting in the late 1990s, the South African author and fitness researcher Tim Noakes advanced the view that our brains are wired for self-preservation. If you push hard enough to endanger your health—by overheating your core or compromising your brain’s oxygen supply, say—your brain will function as a protective “central governor,” automatically weakening the nerve signals driving your muscles. The feedback loop gives rise to the sensation of fatigue and signals you to slow down.
An alternate view proposed a decade later by Samuele Marcora, an exercise scientist at the University of Kent’s Endurance Research Group, posits that our limits are defined by the balance between motivation and perceived effort. We don’t stop because our fatigued muscles are incapable of continuing, in this view, but because the effort required to continue is greater than we’re willing to exert.
Whatever the mechanism, both camps agree that the subjective perception of effort is a sort of master controller—which means, in practical terms, that if you change your perception of a task’s difficulty, you can change your actual results.
There are plenty of examples of this phenomenon. In a 2014 experiment described in the journal Frontiers in Human Neuroscience, researchers led by Dr. Marcora showed cyclists images of smiling faces on a screen in imperceptible 16-millisecond flashes. The exposure boosted cycling performance by 12% over the level recorded with frowning faces projected in the same way. The sight of a smile didn’t lower the subjects’ heart rates or lactate levels, according to Dr. Marcora. Instead, it subtly altered how their brains interpreted those signals, evoking feelings of ease that bled into their perception of how hard they were pedaling.
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Olympic marathon champion Eliud Kipchoge, top center, celebrated after a race, May 6, 2017. PHOTO: LUCA BRUNO/ASSOCIATED PRESS
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Eliud Kipchoge, the Olympic marathon champion from Kenya, has sought to self-administer the same effect. Mr. Kipchoge has come the closest to breaking the 2-hour barrier in a marathon, missing by just 26 seconds (in a race in Italy last year that doesn’t count in official records). He deliberately smiled broadly every mile or so during the final stretch. “When you smile and you’re happy,” he later explained to reporters, “you can trigger the mind to feel your legs.”
A technique called transcranial direct-current stimulation, or tDCS, which involves trickling a weak electric current between two electrodes on the scalp, also can alter the relationship between physical stress in the body and effort perceived by the brain. The current changes the excitability of affected neurons, making them slightly easier to trigger. This allows you to maintain a given level of exercise with weaker brain signals, which translates into a lower sense of effort. A study published this month in the journal Brain Stimulation showed a 23.5% increase in the time to exhaustion in cycling after 10 minutes of brain stimulation.
Such eye-popping outcomes have turned heads in the elite sports world. The U.S. Olympic ski and snowboard team reported a 13% boost in propulsive force and an 11% boost in jump smoothness when their ski jumpers tested headphones delivering tDCS effects. Brothers Bryan and Taylor Fletcher, who lead the U.S. Nordic combined (ski jumping and cross-country skiing) contingent heading to Pyeongchang, have been particularly eager adopters.
The technique is perfectly legal according to current Olympic and international sporting rules and would be difficult to regulate anyway, since its use is impossible to detect. Still, some scientists in the field have raised questions about the ethics of brain stimulation in athletes, calling for further research on its long-term safety.
Not everyone wants to wire up their brains for mild shocks, of course, but that’s hardly necessary to adjust your relationship with your apparent physical limits. There are simpler techniques. The crucial first step in all of them is to accept the idea that your perceived capacity for endurance doesn’t always correspond to any particular physiological reality.
For me, that happened when I was an aspiring collegiate distance runner more than 20 years ago. At a low-key 1,500-meter race in Quebec, the timekeeper, struggling to translate from French to English on the fly, called out wildly misleading midrace split times to me. Convinced that I was running faster than ever before without trying harder, I was unshackled from my pre-race expectations and self-limitations. I improved my previous best time by nine seconds in a four-minute race, an unprecedented leap for me, after being stuck at the same level for four years.
Such deceptions work in the lab, too. Cyclists in a heat chamber can maintain a faster pace if the thermometer is rigged to show a falsely low temperature, according to a 2012 study in the European Journal of Applied Physiology by researchers at the University of Bedfordshire. Olympic runners, cyclists and triathletes now commonly swish a sports drink in their mouths and then spit it out in the late stages of races, a tactic tested in a 2004 University of Birmingham study in the journal Medicine & Science in Sports & Exercise. It boosts performance by tricking the brain into thinking that fuel is on the way, even when the stomach can’t tolerate any more neon drinks.
Former Boston Marathon champion Amby Burfoot once described the “absolute, no-doubt-in-the-world best running workout you can do” as a series of all-out mile repeats where, after you think you’re finished, your coach tells you to do one more at the same pace. The surprise? You can. Most of us don’t have sadistic coaches, or indeed any coach at all, but this general approach—setting a tough but achievable finish line for yourself, and then raising your sights once you reach it—is a powerful way of pushing beyond what seems initially feasible.
‘**The mind can deliver incremental gains, not quantum leaps.’**
There are limits to the power of deception, though. In a French study published last year in Medicine & Science in Sports & Exercise, cyclists raced against a virtual-reality avatar of their previous best performance. When the avatar was secretly sped up by 2%, the cyclists managed to go 2% faster, but when the avatars accelerated by 5%, the benefits disappeared. The mind can deliver incremental gains, not quantum leaps.
Perhaps the most powerful and widely applicable technique for changing how your brain interprets incoming signals is to train yourself with motivational self-talk. Whether you’re conscious of it or not, you have an internal monologue running through your head during difficult tasks, and it has a measurable impact on how effortful you perceive those tasks to be. It is possible to channel that monologue in productive ways.
Many athletes consider such techniques a little hokey. My college track teammates and I laughed our way through the mandatory self-talk training we received from a well-meaning sports psychologist, figuring that if we honed our muscles and our maximum oxygen uptake sufficiently, we wouldn’t need to worry about such flimflammery.
That’s now one of my greatest competitive regrets, given the mounting evidence of self-talk’s physiological impact. A 2016 study by Stephen Cheung, an environmental physiologist and avid cyclocross competitor at Brock University in Canada, gave cyclists two weeks of self-talk training before an all-out ride in a heat chamber at 95 degrees Fahrenheit. Replacing negative thoughts like “I’m boiling” with motivational statements such as “Keep pushing, you’re doing well” boosted their time to exhaustion from eight minutes to over 11 minutes. Most tellingly, it allowed them to push their core temperatures half a degree higher, on average, before quitting.
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Emil Hegle Svendsen of Norway and Martin Fourcade of France in the 15-kilometer biathlon at the Sochi 2014 Winter Olympics. PHOTO: RICHARD HEATHCOTE/GETTY IMAGES
In that slender half degree is the margin between perceived and actual limits—and, perhaps, between silver and gold in competition. Consider the closest (and wildest) finish at the last Winter Olympics in Sochi, a dead heat between Norway’s Emil Hegle Svendsen and France’s Martin Fourcade in the 15-kilometer biathlon. Both men notched identical times of 42 minutes, 29.1 seconds—but what’s most remarkable is the frantic sprint that preceded this finish. If limits were a simple reflection of spent muscle fibers and a maxed-out heart, you’d expect the final stretch of a long and grueling race to be the slowest. Instead, it’s often the fastest.
This isn’t simply a question of pacing errors or cat-and-mouse racing tactics. A 2006 analysis by South African scientist Ross Tucker analyzed the pacing patterns of every men’s world record in the 5,000- and 10,000-meter run in the modern era. Of the 66 races dating back the 1920s, the last kilometer was either the fastest or second-fastest in every case but one. The sight of the finish line—and the knowledge that you can soon stop—automatically reframes your brain’s interpretation of your body’s signals, and you discover that you’re not quite out of juice after all.
None of this means that limits are “all in your head,” or that you can simply choose to ignore your brain’s diktats. But neither are those limits carved in stone. For the medal hopefuls in Pyeongchang, as for the rest of us, that’s a truly empowering idea.
What drove Petra Majdič onward during that long, painful day of competition in Vancouver? “I thought that Slovenians need some message—that it’s possible,” she told herself. “At the end of that path, the goal will be reachable. And you will have suffered to do it, but it doesn’t matter. You can do better.”
—This essay is adapted from Mr. Hutchinson’s new book, “Endure: Mind, Body, and the Curiously Elastic Limits of Human Performance,” which will be published by William Morrow on Feb. 6.

Good analogy.

Like many, even without the gun to my head, I already feel the threat of death while doing my 20 minute FTP Test :slight_smile: :slight_smile:

.I can recall so many running races where everyone looked at their watch at the first mile and determined they were out either too fast or too slow and it ruined their race.

How do you know it ruined their races?

Because at most general-population running races (as opposed to those limited to dedicated amateur athletes like collegiate cross-country, etc) I’d estimate about 3/4 of the people go out too fast. Of those 3/4 of people, some are using electronics to pace, others aren’t. I’d think it’d be really difficult to assign a causal relationship to the device.

From my experience, a good sense of pacing comes from experience, and I haven’t seen much anecdotal evidence that use of electronics, etc, hampers the development of a well-tuned internal effort gauge.

I have heard the story many times (so many times that I’m a bit suspicious of it) of the coach whose athlete was using HR to train. And they had a race where they were going really well, but slowed down because their HR was too high. And therefore, presumably, missed out on some kind of breakthrough performance. (though I have no idea how we know if they instead missed out on completely cracking and walk-jogging the last 5 miles).

And secondly, who’s going to be first in marketing transcranial direct-current stimulation, or tDCS to triathletes:)?

I was about to have a seizure at the magnitude of your naivety until I saw the smiley.

My one anecdote is a story from a U.S. national team training camp. They were doing VO2 max testing. And they were stumped at one athlete who had one of the best 2K erg scores, but by far the worst oxygen uptake.

And then they did the lactate testing. And he was off the charts, on another planet. The researcher said that he was getting so much anaerobic energy at steady-state that either he had other-wordly pain tolerance, or just didn’t feel pain at all. It might have been a “mental trick” or just freak physiology.

Hello trail and All,

I have reservations … wondering if our natural human fatigue signals are ignored or artificially attenuated (with drugs, electrical stimulation, hypnosis, or other methods) that we may be putting our long term health in danger?

Where do we draw the line?

Can dogs really run until they die? Could humans?

Could humans?

Pheidippides allegedly died immediately after delivering his message in Athens. :slight_smile:

I agree that this could be a case where if there’s a “central governor” it’s not there for no reason.

Because I have been guilty years ago, as were a lot of friends. Odd you mention a runner checking HR…that actually happened to me also as a competitor I had been running with for a few miles of cat and mouse checked his HR and I bolted…sign of weakness on his part. PE is a very strong sense, especially when honed in training with other metrics.

.I can recall so many running races where everyone looked at their watch at the first mile and determined they were out either too fast or too slow and it ruined their race.

How do you know it ruined their races?

Because at most general-population running races (as opposed to those limited to dedicated amateur athletes like collegiate cross-country, etc) I’d estimate about 3/4 of the people go out too fast. Of those 3/4 of people, some are using electronics to pace, others aren’t. I’d think it’d be really difficult to assign a causal relationship to the device.

From my experience, a good sense of pacing comes from experience, and I haven’t seen much anecdotal evidence that use of electronics, etc, hampers the development of a well-tuned internal effort gauge.

I have heard the story many times (so many times that I’m a bit suspicious of it) of the coach whose athlete was using HR to train. And they had a race where they were going really well, but slowed down because their HR was too high. And therefore, presumably, missed out on some kind of breakthrough performance. (though I have no idea how we know if they instead missed out on completely cracking and walk-jogging the last 5 miles).

My one anecdote is a story from a U.S. national team training camp. They were doing VO2 max testing. And they were stumped at one athlete who had one of the best 2K erg scores, but by far the worst oxygen uptake.

And then they did the lactate testing. And he was off the charts, on another planet. The researcher said that he was getting so much anaerobic energy at steady-state that either he had other-wordly pain tolerance, or just didn’t feel pain at all. It might have been a “mental trick” or just freak physiology.

Easy; do some testing with PCP-effected athletes and see if it works.