Real story:
Imagine you are having a conversation with a friend and he says I will give you 10:1 odds that you can’t find someone that can average 1000 watts for 30secs on the bike.
You say sure, not only will I try and find someone that can do it, but I will make sure they have run a 2hr 30 marathon.
Who wins the bet? and would you take it?****
I could have won the bet for you until you tossed in the 2:30 marathon.
You may have a hard time finding that. A 2:30 marathoner isn’t common, and finding one who’s a prolific enough cyclist to hold 1kw for 30+ secs is going to be a heck of a challenge.
I thought Normann Stadler ran 2:32…I am pretty sure he might be able to do 1000W for 30 seconds
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Your throw-in of the 2:30 marathon will exclude about 99.99999% of anybody who could win you the first part of the bet.
Dev’s right, Normann is probably one of the few who might be able to pull off both sides of that wager.
I’d take the first part of that bet - some of those Brit track guys could probably do 1k watts for :30, easy.
Sir Chris Hoy maxes out at 2300 watt, and can sustain maximum power for 40 secs+
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The marathoner will probably fail. You need 1000W, the runner is very high on watts/kg., but is probably 140lbs.
You want a big track sprinter. Cav. can only do ~1500W for 10sec. when fresh.
Call Hoy.
While we’re at it, let throw in “AND benchpress 2x body weight”!!!
Seriously, if Normann put his mind to it, he might be one of the guys who could do both. He might need to do it in separate years too and may never be able to do 2:30.
Yeah, I can’t imagine finding someone that can do both.
Plus he can do +/- 1200 watts at the end of a 200km TdF stage, with his chin practically scraping the front tyre.
A very impressive athlete with a fantastic team getting him into position.
I think any two of those three would be difficult.
Sir Chris Hoy maxes out at 2300 watt, and can sustain maximum power for 40 secs+
No, he can’t, and neither can any other human: no matter who you are, your power begins to decline after just a few seconds.
Actually, I have no clue what “FOP” would be for bench pressing wrt to body weight. Personally I maxed out at under 1.5x body weight, so I’m just assuming that 2x might be a somewhat tough target for someone who might want to also ride and run moderately fast. The very act of maxing out the single rep on bench press would of course add minutes if not 10’s of minutes to the marathon time. It might not hurt the 30 second bike power though.
Apologies - I am confusing max output with max effort (which he sustains for 40 secs+)
Cheers all
Simon
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Sir Chris Hoy maxes out at 2300 watt, and can sustain maximum power for 40 secs+
What? Right - raising the BS flag up real high on that. Perhaps you mean on his 3 hp (around 2300w) riding lawnmower is what you meant?
Yep, sorry rroof, my confusion and mistake!
The athlete doesn’t need to be that BIG.
I’m 175-180 and can put out 1000 for 30 sec. on command. Finding a cyclist who can do so wouldn’t be very hard at all.
Andrew is right on the drop off of course. Just look at your mean maximal charts to show it.
Here is another little nugget. From Craig and Norton’s paper back in 2001 showed how elite track riders in the kilo event (1km) averaged 757w with a peak of 1800w dropping to 399w at the finish showing a 78% decay.
Granted, this longer than a 30 sec output.
I’d say its possible. I used to do tabata intervals and was able to hit the 1000 watts mark a few times. No, I can’t hold it for 30 seconds, but a more experienced rider than me can I would think. And for a marathon I’ve run 2:32 and with a few more marathons under my belt I know I can dip under 2:30.
So that being said, I think a good amount of ITU racers can do this. Simon Whitfield, Jarrod Shoemaker, etc… (guys that are much faster runners than me and MUCH stronger on the bike that focus on short sprints to catch the draft group). Even someone such as Andy Potts, he is a machine on the bike and can run very well.
So yes I think its definitely doable and you’d be able to find someone
Do you have to find someone who can really both, or just find someone to say on an anonymous internet forum that he can do both?
The athlete doesn’t need to be that BIG.
I’m 175-180 and can put out 1000 for 30 sec. on command. Finding a cyclist who can do so wouldn’t be very hard at all.
Wow, so in other words you are one of the riders who makes cat1/2 crits a near-impossibility for me… 
-Physiojoe