Who started punk rock?

Green Day? (running/ducking)

The internet does not allow me to throw a bottle at you. I’d imagine Green Day would do the same.

I’m gonna say James Osterberg, and that’s all I’ve got to say about that.

Oh, we’re playing that game? I think Jeffery Hyman, John Cummings, Thomas Erdelyi and Douglas Colvin (Mark Bell, too), might want a hand in this

#noGOOGLEneeded

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A Rolling Stones article proclaims the Ramones started punk rock.

I just saw a video that proclaimed the Damned was the first band called punk rock.
And then there’s the band called Death.

Who is the first punk rock band?

I thought RandMart might have mentioned my nominee, 'coz I know he was a fan.

When Bob Geldof (Bob who?) was asked, he answered: “Rock music in the seventies was changed by three bands—the Sex Pistols, the Ramones and the Saints”.

He had a point. Of course, the earliest of those was the Saints who formed in 1973. Quite a number of music historians name (I’m) Stranded released 1976 as the prototypical punk song.

There’s no right answer to the question, but I think the Saints are the most talented yet under-appreciated of the grandfathers of punk. I was listening to “Know your product”, from 1978, just a few days ago and thinking how well it holds up.

No - they played too well; Lou Reed was sort of a Folkie plus Doo Wop guy at first

Although, they did have a girl drummer, which was kinda Punk for the times

By that measure, The Carpenters.

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This is prolly one of the toughest debates in music. All I know is I thought disco was the ruination of rock music. Then to save us all CBGBs venue and a few outraged youth in the UK clubs all started playing fast and hard music in the 74-76 era. Ramones, Clash, Sex Pistols and a bunch of other folks saved rock IMHO. I was lucky enough to see all of them in their prime and they were raunchy splendid. None of them lasted very long (compared to the old geezers like the Rolling Stones, the Who and others) but what a raw beautiful time in music. The Ramones are my all time fave punk rock band, but they got shit from the other punks for “selling out” I think the pinnacle of punk had to be the The Sex Pistols before they crashed. Still listen to the Baton Rouge show on Youtube soon before the implosion. Remember being there like yesterday.

Of course, not all of The Who lasted long, and even at 57, Entwistle’s death following a night of a cocaine with a groupie in Vegas was an archetypal rock departure.

And then there was Brian Jones.

A Rolling Stones article proclaims the Ramones started punk rock.

I just saw a video that proclaimed the Damned was the first band called punk rock.
And then there’s the band called Death.

Who is the first punk rock band?

I thought RandMart might have mentioned my nominee, 'coz I know he was a fan.

When Bob Geldof (Bob who?) was asked, he answered: “Rock music in the seventies was changed by three bands—the Sex Pistols, the Ramones and the Saints”.

He had a point. Of course, the earliest of those was the Saints who formed in 1973. Quite a number of music historians name (I’m) Stranded released 1976 as the prototypical punk song.

There’s no right answer to the question, but I think the Saints are the most talented yet under-appreciated of the grandfathers of punk. I was listening to “Know your product”, from 1978, just a few days ago and thinking how well it holds up.

The Saints would be very equivalent to The Stooges, yes; they don’t get included in many “who started Punk” discussion due to supply chain issues = no one heard music from Australia then — AC/DC blew the fucking doors off Aerosmith in '76, but we didn’t hear them until Highway To Hell (unless your were one of the “cool kids” flipping through the Import rack at the Indie record store NOT from The Mall)

And then there was Brian Jones.

Brian Jones was murdered

https://youtu.be/FdJriCs_Y8k?si=IcaR5Hs-2MOI90qt
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I’m gonna say James Osterberg, and that’s all I’ve got to say about that.
My dad went to high school with him. And Ramones starting punk? Love the Ramones but that is a big no.

And then there was Brian Jones.

Brian Jones was murdered

So that would be the Brian Jonestown Massacre?

When Bob Geldof (Bob who?) was asked, he answered: “Rock music in the seventies was changed by three bands—the Sex Pistols, the Ramones and the Saints”.

What does that Band Aid guy have to do with punk rock? 😉

https://www.salon.com/2017/11/04/the-night-acdc-stormed-cbgb/

“They certainly weren’t your traditional heavy metal band,” he notes. “The heavy metal of the mid-70s was a ponderous, bombastic, slow music. They were a high-energy rock & roll band and, before the Sex Pistols changed the image of punk rock from faster and louder to a more political and anthemic music, AC/DC could be classified as punk.” Holmstrom continues, “Then again, so were the Bay City Rollers, Alice Cooper, the Stooges, the New York Dolls, Eddie and the Hot Rods, and hundreds more bands. AC/DC were a great rock & roll band, and that’s basically what punk rock was before things went nuts in 1977.” A few months after the Palladium show, New York Rocker writer Howie Klein put it this way: “AC/DC doesn’t use safety pins, never went to art school, and they sure don’t limit themselves to 2 or 3 chords, but if new wave is a reaffirmation of rock & roll’s traditional values, this band is an important part of it.”

I can see that, sure

Bill Monroe was punk before anyone mentioned so far. There’s a reason why old punks don’t die, they just go country.

I was actually going to say Johnny Cash.

He’s up there, as are Waylon and Townes.

Let’s see… a band that played kind of sloppy, with a heavy disdain for authority and a focus on building community, rejection of commercialism in music, direct interaction with their audience, and a DIY manner of conducting business that included as little corporate involvement as possible… ladies and gentlemen, I give you the first punk band… The Grateful Dead!! :slight_smile: (I don’t need to put that in pink, right?)

In all serious, it’s well documented that Greg Ginn of Black Flag was a pretty serious Dead Head.

I was actually going to say Johnny Cash.

Jerry Lee Lewis was the Johnny Rotten of his time

Took it even further by marrying his underaged cousin #commit2thebit
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Let’s see… a band that played kind of sloppy, with a heavy disdain for authority and a focus on building community, rejection of commercialism in music, direct interaction with their audience, and a DIY manner of conducting business that included as little corporate involvement as possible… ladies and gentlemen, I give you the first punk band… The Grateful Dead!! :slight_smile: (I don’t need to put that in pink, right?)

In all serious, it’s well documented that Greg Ginn of Black Flag was a pretty serious Dead Head.

I first met Greg back in '84. I had seen the band several times before then, but never got to talk with him. I last met and and spent five or so minutes talking with him around a month ago, in Denver.

I remember My Way being such a controversial album when it was released, mostly because of the three songs on side two. I immediately loved side two. Scream has to be one of my favorite songs of all time.