Who Is Riding GURU / Help me Buy my Bike

Who out there has any ride time on either a Guru Crono or an Aero-Ti? I’m trying to decide which one to get and I’d love to get everyones opinion. By the way, Guru has been top notch in this process. Those guys appear to have a serious attention to detail.

Corey

You might want to ask Tom D. He posts here regularly.

http://www.bikesportmichigan.com/reviews/aero04.shtml

Well, I have owned both the Cron-Alu and the Aero Ti. Here are pictures of both of my bikes:

Aero-Ti used at Ironman New Zealand 2004 and about 10 other, shorter events:

http://www.bikesportmichigan.com/reviews/aero04/AeroTioblique.jpg

Cron-Alu raced during some of the 2005 season (I didn’t race much last year… too busy :(… http://images.snapfish.com/34573%3B2323232fp46%3Dot>2337%3D736%3D376%3DXROQDF>2323857789%3A%3A6ot1lsi First off, Guru has a manufacturing process unique from any other traithlon bike builder of commensurate size: They are building their own bikes from the finest tubing in their own facility by hand. That affords them a degree of control over the manufacturing process- and the design process to a degree- that no one else in the industry provides at their level. Also, their custom lead times are the industry standard now. I’m a cheapskate, and I like aluminum. I loved my Aero-Ti, it was everything any bike could ever be, but for 2005 I have a Guru Crono carbon bike and Guru Tri-Lite aluminum bike being built. I got a substantial discount on the Crono Carbon bike, otherwise I would have been fine with the Tri-Lite. I also ride an '05 Cervelo P3SL as a tri bike, which I also adore, but is a very different bike than the Gurus. I am at a loss to make a recommendation here. I am in the minority (I suppose) when I say I love aluminum. Remember that the aluminum Guru uses is not bargain basement, relatively commodity oriented aluminum. It is Dedacciai’s high end “Force” or similar tubeset. This stuff is strong, durable and comfortable. Add that to an incredible assembly job and finish work that is better than Colnago and easily on par with Serotta and you can’t go wrong with either bike- sorry to take the cop out answer. Robert at Guru probably gets miffed at me because I gush at the wonderful characteristics of the Cron-Alu, often at the exclusion of the more pricey bikes. Again, I am a cheapskate: The Cron-Alu is *so nice *I can’t feature any athlete ever needing a nicer bike… -Sorry, I am not much help here. I am a big fan of the Cron-Alu in particular and Guru in general. Maybe I will develop more of a “Ferrari” taste when I get on my new Crono the first time…

I’m not sure what you’re looking for. I’ve raced my Guru for 3 1/2 seasons and about 20 tris and it has been great. I’ve been getting the “bug” lately to upgrade, but there is absolutely nothing wrong with the bike. I have a Cron’alu BTW with Ultegra 10 and Zipp 404s. Geometry is great for most (long head tubes though), but custom is just a phone call away in ANY material you want (Alum, Ti, Steel or Carbon) - I believe they are the only bike manufacturer that can do this. In my fairly experienced cycling eye, I would rate their quality and attention to detail among the very best of any bike I’ve ever examined. Their paint seems very “thick” and the clearcoat is smoother than my Mercedes. Colnago paint (gold std IMHO) is simply “prettier” but not any better.

Italians making bikes in Canada - go figure?

“Italians making bikes in Canada - go figure?”

It’s an Italian tradition. Had you never heard of Miele or Marinoni?

Sure, but Miele is a large, German company that makes all sorts of things (stoves, vacuums, etc.) of the very highest caliber :slight_smile: My wife taught me this after spending $2,000 on a vacuum recently (and I had little room to argue with my bike purchases) ;(
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Actually no.

There is the large Miele company that you mention, but totally different company.

The Miele bikes were made in Toronto in the 1980’s by Jim Miele, an Italian immigrant. He was a former road racer and “stole” one of Bianchi’s top designers from the Italian factory, convincing him to come to Canada to start their bike company with him. They made some very nice high end Italianish bikes. I had one of them with 12 sp Suntour friction gruppo and Ambrosio wheels. Beautiful frame/lugs made with Ishiwata 022 quad butted steel tubing, among the best tubes of the time. Weighed about 23 lbs which was considered extremely light for it’s time.

The company went out of business in the early or mid 90’s and Jim Miele died a few years ago. The “Miele” name was revised by CCM recently and they are rebuilding low end bicycles called “Miele”.

Cool - thanks for the lesson. No, I’ve never heard of Miele bicycles (although I was joking bringing Miele Germany). Would be nice for you to have a nice, steel, legacy frame to tool around that you know the history of, no?

I have ridin a Cron’alu, loved it. My wife also rode a Cron’alu, she loved it. When we bought the store we were not a Guru dealer. Sadly we both sold our Guru’s. Not even a year later we have Guru in our store. My wife should be getting here Crono next week. I am still in limbo what I want to ride. They make great bikes and are great people to work with. I can deffinately recommend them.

I am not currently riding Guru but I will be in 15 days. I am having a chrono built with the help of Paul Levine at www.signaturecycles.com. I worked with paul on my serotta road bike and now i have a dedicated tri-tt bike in the arsenal.

As I understand it: the manufacturing processes that are being utilized at Guru are second to none w/e for Serotta. The care and quality of the bike and it’s assembly are cutting edge. Other companies have spent their dollars on marketing guru spent it on process and bike production. Excuse my ignorance of terminology but here goes-on the trueing tables where the tubes set are layed up and bonded. There are micrometers at each critical joint to ensure alignment of the frame as each tube is bonded to each lug. The old tack weld and bend it with a 2x4 into shape is not being utilzed at guru.

I am amped to be able to do a full custom bike that utilizes cutting edge materials, design and manufacture and custom paint fair parts kit swap and fast turn around.

From the aestetic side I sent guru a frame decal from my serotta and they had the paint department custom mix color matches so my bike decals will be the same. BTW all guru’s are hand painted !!!

So far i am inlove with the process and set up If the bike rides like crap I will let you know.

Kevin

I am currently riding a Cron’alu. Love it. I had a crash in June and FYI Guru gave me a pretty good crash replacement deal.

Nothing wrong with a metal bike…