so…I do all my running on concrete and roads mostly…so which is considered to be the best neutral cushioned running shoe for that purpose…i weigh about 78kg’s and Im running about 5 times a week from 5-10km each day…
I have used Nike, Asics, NB shoes in the past and I find NIKE shoes the best for me…as opposed to everyone else looking to correct pronation and supination through shoes i think i have to use a neutral shoe that lets my foot do what it does and that theory has proved correct for me…
I do most of my running on pavement and have been pretty happy with the Asics Nmbus (although I’m not sure if it is nutral or stability) it is pretty cushioned
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I have been wearing the more corrective version for pronation and really like them.
Here are some names and descriptions of the shoes.
Shine:
Neutral Cushioning shoe
Great for: lightweight runners who don’t need a lot of support or help with correcting over-pronation; bigger runners that are neutral and use an orthotic; runners needing a light weight race shoe;
Not great for: bigger runners needing support; over pronators
Semi-curved last and neutral width
syncroFloat:
Neutral Cushioning Shoe
Great for: neutral runners who need a high mileage, comfortable training shoe; runners who can use a slight bit of support or help with over-pronation; bigger runners that are neutral; bigger runners and/or over-pronaters needing a light weight race shoe; neutral runners who’s form deteriorates over the course of a long run
Not great for: bigger runners needing support; over pronators
Semi-curved last and neutral width
syncroShift:
Neutral Cushion Shoe
Similar ride and feel to the Float, but with a Goretex lining; great for wetter climates and winter training; fully water-proof/breathable
Not great for: bigger runners needing support; severe over pronators; warm/dry climates
Neutral Shoes by brand and amount of cushioning. The amount of cushioning relates to the weight of the shoe (the more the heavier it actually is) and how long it will last (the more, usually the longer it will last). For kicks, i’ll give 2-3 shoes per brand.
Now, the Nimbus, the new Triumph and the 1060 are very plush feeling. The Vomero has a very sponge like feel. The Glycerin feels to be a firmer shoe and the Float and creationg have a bit more control to them, with the wave plate and the Syncro Frame.
Not meaning to change the subject, but another shoe-related question:
All else being equal, are some shoes more comfy for running without socks than others or is it just a matter of getting used to it in whatever shoes you already have?
I’ve been in the Brooks T3/4 for a few years now, running 99% on concrete and asphalt. It has just enough blown rubber to take the sting off the impact, but no rigid midsole to dampen a good healthy pronation.
Yes, Some shoes will have a more appealing sock liner than others. Is this for racing or training or both?
Eric
I assumed I would want to do both just to avoid any unpleasant surprises during the race but I’m a newbie to tri so maybe I’m wrong about that. I already have bike shoes that are comfy without socks so I thought if I could be comfy for the run that way as well it might be good for a little time saved. Being a newbie, I wouldn’t care too much about a little time saved in a long race but I’m concentrating on sprint distance right now so I can see it being useful. Unfortunately, I don’t have that healthy “make your goal just to finish with a smile” attitude that the books and training articles go on about. I can finish a sprint without training at all, I want to know I made every effort to do well.
As previously stated, the T4 racer (soon to be T5) from Brooks is a great racing shoe and I have always worn without socks and has a nice sock liner to it. You can expect that most racing shoes feel fine without socks. I don’t think i’ve ever worn socks while racing, XC, track, road, tri’s, etc… Not wearing socks will absolutely save you time. Don’t let anyone tell you that all you have to worry about is “finishing”, you set your own goals and go as fast as you can! Anyone telling you otherwise is selling you a line.
i do all my running in city conditions and i wear the brooks glycerine - it’s very well cushioned without being to “pillowy” - highly recommended. i also have a pair of the adidas supernovas which are definitely cushier, but maybe a little too squishy for my taste. although, i’ll wear them around if i want to feel tall b/c they must have 1.5" of midsole.
i used to run in only the asics nimbus, but they “evolved” to a new model and i started having foot and leg issues.
i’m very interested in trying out the mizuno creation …
I’m about the same weight as you and used Asics Cumulus for ~80% asphalt & concrete running for about 1 year. I found them to be very good on these surfaces, also cheaper than higher end models. I eventually switched to DS trainers for that little extra stability, but found them too thin at the ball of the foot for lots of hard surface running.
For the other sub-thread: found the Cumulus unsuitable for sockless running, consistent broken blisters on the outer front part of the arch due to the support stripes stiched into the uppers. Also had similar sockless problems with DS trainer, especially on warm humid days. My current shoe (~100 miles on them) are Brooks Axiom 2. I found these to work well sockless, np up to six miles runs sockless. Unfortunately they also don’t have much cushion in the forefoot for concrete running.
funny thing that…i have been running sock-less for ages now…probably cos I never find my running socks when i need them…i run in Nike Free’s, Nike Presto’s and Nike Skylons these days…though mostly in Skylons now…cos theyre the most cushioned…I also run in very hilly courses…big inclines at times…
…as for the buying shoes for pronation, supination etc, as i said earlier, I’m of the school of thought that says completely neutral and cushioned is better so that my foot does what its always done but with cushioning of course…i think if i tried to alter the way the foot behaves id get injuries for sure…this is an unscientific, purely on instinct feeling…any agree with me?