Where is slowtwitch going?

It won’t shock me that by 2024 Olympics that not a single athlete in the pipeline will have a “single sport” background.

I think more and more juniors will stay in triathlon in some avenue while in college (NCAA for women). Ben Kanute example.

Especially to be competitive on the men’s side. You can’t stunt Tri development, and if you do, your best chance is top 15-20 versus podium athlete. That’s just how strong and specialized top end ITU athletes are.

On the women’s side it’s still soft enough overall that you can “learn” how to race at top level. It’s why USAT has been able to have such success on women’s side, but not so much on the men’s side. It’s taking YEARS (more than 1 Olympic cycle) for the guys to develop to front pack athlete while it is taking about 1.5-2 seasons for the women to have world class results.

What I fear is what happens to NCAA. I hope ASU is successful and gets ucla/Stanford on board and that west coast success fuels some east coach success. But I don’t know, time will tell.

(1) This post probably should be on the front page under ‘Slowtwitch Manifesto 2016’ or something like that. You’ve written parts of it here and there over the past few years, but not like this (that I’ve seen; granted I only have access to the internet 75% of the year, so I very much might have missed it). It would put everyone is on the same page immediately.

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the very first thing i did when i came back from the first ironman in kona in february of 1981 is plan and produce a triathlon in my hometown, which happened in august of 1981. the very last thing i had on my mind was a profit.
The place you see this ethos right now is in collegiate triathlon. For a few years, my winter/spring was on the collegiate circuit and my summer/fall doing long course. The difference in mindset is astounding.

I spent three years on the race directing team for the race we put on. Three really smart graduate students in neuroscience, bio-engineering, and geophysics worked our asses off entirely for free to put on races of which we were proud. We had profit on our mind, but only so we could reimburse our member’s entry fees, travel, and buy new trainers so we could all practice. The barriers to entry for 18 to 30-ish people are very very very very high economically. If you want to grow the sport, the economic barriers for young people need to dealt with. How about pushing WTC (or Rev3 or any race company) for a discounted student entry fee at some of their races that don’t sell out?

Another way of doing that Slowtwitch can help is through coverage. Sure, the kids might not be on Slowtwitch, but the sponsors sure are. We were honored to have Slowtwitch cover our race starting in 2015 (which I relayed to you in a thank you email last year). But by that point we were established as a badass triathlon. We needed you in 2013 when we held our first draft legal race and this guy named Ben Kanute from U. of Arizona throttled the field. We needed you in 2014 when that same collegiate kid, now the reigning Collegiate Nationals champion, out kicked a local pro named Joe Maloy in the finishing straight. Visibility = something to sell to our sponsors = better ability to support (and grow) our team.

I haven’t seen any coverage of Stanford’s Treeathlon. I haven’t seen any coverage of the Oregon State’s Beaver Freezer. Collegiate clubs have access to the young people that are needed to grow the sport. Crazy races in northern Europe are really cool, but will it open the doors of triathlon to the next generation of middle-aged men and women? Will it help a 19 year old get their first bike? I’m not convinced.

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but rightly or wrongly - and maybe it was a poor choice on my part - when i was presented with the choice of whether to have timothy carlson spend his time on a forecast of this race or a woman with gran mal seizure epilepsy holding off liz lyles for the win at penticton, that just wasn’t even a close call. could we do both stories, you might ask. perhaps. but i’d already worked timothy to the bone on covering the olympics, alongside the other stories he covered, and my pick was jen annett.

Why is this an “or” situation? Is Tim the only person that can cover a race? I could give you a list of at least a dozen people (myself included) who are solid writers, understand the sport of triathlon, and absolutely would cover a story for free if Slowtwitch covered travel expenses. I know one place you could start looking for such people: collegiate triathlon clubs. Call it a one-week internship. Boom, you have a few dozen applicants. Alternatively, just peruse a couple collegiate triathlon websites and read their race reports until you find someone with the voice you want. Sure, occasionally the coverage would fall flat, but I bet, more often than not, you would get amazing coverage with a fresh perspective.

I agree it’s the future of our sport. But I don’t think that jives with the mindset of most of ST. So that is my point. How do you cater to a demographic that basically goes against what I think is current culture of ST.

I don’t think it’s swim-run. I think that’s more Herbert’s baby, and Dan/ST letting him go with it.

ST i don’t think is very open minded about anything that isn’t LC related (I’m talking the users not ST management). Go look at ITU thread and there are the same 6 people who actually post on that. How many parents ask about youth triathlons or gear? I’d say less than 2 a summer if that. How many Xterra posts are there?

Maybe ST’s fb presence and likes is much different than what I see/read from the forums, and if so fair enough.

Dev, you and I have discussed people tuning in to ITU races and you used your wife as an example. But you have said she only watches events that are in 3-30 min viewing time frame. My response is always “triathlon is an endurance sport…it’s not going to get dumb downed to 16 min race”. It just won’t, even at sprint distance that’s 50ish min race.

In that same light, if your 18-30 and have different motives than the culture of what is present among ST, it would make sense that demographic isn’t really present here, right?

So long winded post to say, in order to market to younger generation, it would take culture change from ST.

“They are giving them away to anyone right now, and still our best females are going single sport mostly.”

I think that the current crop of top end 17-18yr old girls grew up in the sport not having a college option and the mindset was to race until it came time for college recruitment and then pick swimming or running. I remember reading an interview in 2013 with Devon Dabney (finished 2nd at Nationals that year) who said she is swimming for LSU because there was no triathlon option at the time. Even though the college program is entering it’s third year a lot of these 16-19 year old girls in the USAT series would handily win against current girls at these colleges. I’m sure there is some uncertainty for the top girls getting ready to go into college if participating in NCAA would be a big step down in competition. I believe for the college option to survive there will need to be some top end coaches that join up with some larger D1 schools to get some name recognition to convince these girls that its legit.

I totally agree with Dan to cover less Ironman branded races and focus more on indepentent races.
Still i think most would agree that in the tri world the 70,3 champs is one of the biggest races of the year.

Read Dan’s post over carefully.

Ironman (the business/brand) and their races and events are great - some of the absolute best in the sport. It’s been a hugely successful business and an important promoter generally of the sport of triathlon.

However, it’s NOT the whole story of the sport of triathlon and multisport. Much of the triathlon media have been hyper-obsessed with Ironman over the past 15+ years. Slowtwitch can be included in this group, but there has always been more diversity promoted and covered here. Personally, I applaud that, and see that it’s the right thing to do.

Here’s the thing, while Ironman get’s all the hype, and focus, the actual athletes that sign-up and race it are starting to be a a narrower and narrower group - generally it’s wealthier, middle-aged men. Few younger people and low numbers of women.

I see some subtle shifts and changes going on behind the scenes. I hosted and emceed an open information seminar for an event client of mine earlier this year. It was promoted and billed as an information session for first time triathletes, and those interested in the sport. About 120 showed up - a great turn out. Over 75% had never done a triathlon of any kind, but were hoping to do one this year. In over 90 minutes of information shared and Q & A with an expert panel, the word Ironman, was never mentioned ounce!

ASU has started it w hiring one of best in coaching, cliff English. Lets hope other D1 schools like what they see.

I have always liked the simplicity and contend of slowtwitchs front page i but lately I find slowtwitch is changing, and not only visually. Nothing wrong with the visual change as iam sure many people will like it as it follows a pattern that everybody seems to do those days, it just dosnt seem to agree with me ( more fluff less content on the lead page) .

Anyway more importantly the content change, this weekend we have arguably the 2nd most important race in long distance tri and when I look at the front page I see nothing but swim run articles.

In a way i think its great that slowtwich seems to have decided to “promote” scandinavian races such as Otellio, Noreseman and lofoten “extreme” triathlon and swim run races as they represent and more old school flair of racing,

But I think slowtwich hould try to balance it a bit better, and the 70.3 worlds deserve more coverage.

Just my 2 cents.

Well the IM 70.3 worlds is a long was from America and there is only 1 American male Pro competing and its not T.O. or Potts. (Its Brad Williams and a Team RWB member).

So the interest will be very low on ST that I’m guessing is 90+ percent of S-T is American. (Yes Dev - Canada is our 51’st state :slight_smile:

Move the race back to America, convince T.O., Potts and a few others to compete and I’ll bet the coverage and interest on ST goes up.

Personally, I’ve love to see a lot of duathlon, sprint and Olympic distance coverage but that’s not the ST readership view of “important”

thaks for your repyl
but i think if we want more people trying to do that with lifestyle races that are more aimed for the rich 40s ( ie swim run entrance fees are quite expansive ) might not be the best way if we want to get more people involved for this demography triathlon caters quite well.
would we not be better of to promote the 750 swim and 5 k run aquathon that are really affordable ?

when i mean fluff i did not mean the contend I meant in the old lead page i saw pretty much every posted article within a few seconds a very small pic with a headline . Now its big pitcures and not as clear anymore to see everything in one go ( at least for myself)
overall to me that seems more emphasis on gear and less on the sport.

your post deserves an answer.

i competed in the first ironman in kona, in 1981. that was 35 years ago. i formally entered the industry 30 years ago this autumn. i entered my first 3-sport event in 1978 and my first swim/bike/run in 1980. so i think it’s fair to say i’ve seen substantially the entire arc of the sport, as regards participation, media and industry.

not widely appreciated is that we (triathlon in north america) hit a high point in 1988. in 1994 our sport had fallen to half of what it was in 1988. by 1999 we were about back to where we were in 1988. between 1998 and 2012 we saw 14 years of almost uninterrupted growth, and that 2012 total in the united states was several times the size of the market of users at the point of the previous high, in 1988.

since 2012 we’ve seen a drop-off in the united states and in canada, steadily, each year. the big drop-off is in youth and in 1-day memberships, which means the deeply committed triathletes remain, but those dating the sport, and those who might come in as youngsters, we’re suffering.

we’re not doing a good job of attracting newcomers.

why? in my view, because our sport is now dominated by professionals and corporations and moneyed interests. for upwards of the last decade the operative interest in everything having to do with triathlon - race production, manufacturing, media, governance - has been money, bonuses, careers, and return on invested dollar.

that first swim, bike run race in did, in 1980, the swim took place at the end. i was in 3rd. i came out of the water and got outsprinted in the beach, and i ended up 4th. the guy who outsprinted me, that corksucker, is “monty” on this forum. if you wander over to the your perfect race thread, you’ll see that monty and i are almost exasperatingly pleading that you all think outside the box when coming up with your perfect race. the most recent additions to that thread are brilliant. exactly what i hoped for. this kind of thinking is what our sport needs. first you think it. then you do it. then you reproduce it for others.

but if you keep doing what you’re doing, you’ll keep getting what you’re getting. if our sport simply follows the money, and if we follow those who follow the money, we have no one to blame but ourselves if our sport doesn’t begin to grow again, as it began to grow again in the late 1990s.

accordingly, i am not going to omit coverage of the traditional races. but when you say, “slowtwich should try to balance it a bit better,” in my view that’s exactly what we are doing. for every race dominated by traditional, mainstream interests we’re going to write about a race that some guy thought up, drew up on a napkin in a coffee shop with his buddy, and put on for no reason other than it sounded like a really cool race.

i’ve never done, seen in person, or gotten a cent from a swim/run race. but i dig the videos. the reason norseman and otillo are important is not that they line my pockets. it’s because these races line no one’s pockets! including the organizers’ pockets. this is the ethic and the operating principle that built our sport.

the very first thing i did when i came back from the first ironman in kona in february of 1981 is plan and produce a triathlon in my hometown, which happened in august of 1981. the very last thing i had on my mind was a profit. in fact, it was a privilege to lose money on those early races, and losing money was the cost i gladly bore for the thrill of reproducing for my fellows a multisport experience.

as to what we’ll cover here, i’m going to honor those who honor my idea of what has historically pushed this sport forward. that means the little race, the no-money race, the new product, the 1-man manufacturing company, the idea so good i wish i’d thought of it. these are going to get just as much interest from me as a new bike from a $1 billion company or a big race produced by ironman or IMG.

as regards the current races this weekend, yes of course we will cover 70.3 worlds. but rightly or wrongly - and maybe it was a poor choice on my part - when i was presented with the choice of whether to have timothy carlson spend his time on a forecast of this race or a woman with gran mal seizure epilepsy holding off liz lyles for the win at penticton, that just wasn’t even a close call. could we do both stories, you might ask. perhaps. but i’d already worked timothy to the bone on covering the olympics, alongside the other stories he covered, and my pick was jen annett.

now, you might call some of our stories fluff. they’re all interesting to me. i found herbert’s before/after photo essay a brave try. was it a success? that story has 4,400 facebook likes and rising. so, one man’s fluff is another man’s compelling read.

i promise you - i promise you - i’ll make editorial mistakes in judgment. and i want you to point them out. but the above is my answer to your question of where slowtwitch is going, and what you can expect going forward.

I agree it’s the future of our sport. But I don’t think that jives with the mindset of most of ST. So that is my point. How do you cater to a demographic that basically goes against what I think is current culture of ST.

I don’t think it’s swim-run. I think that’s more Herbert’s baby, and Dan/ST letting him go with it.

ST i don’t think is very open minded about anything that isn’t LC related (I’m talking the users not ST management). Go look at ITU thread and there are the same 6 people who actually post on that. How many parents ask about youth triathlons or gear? I’d say less than 2 a summer if that. How many Xterra posts are there?

Maybe ST’s fb presence and likes is much different than what I see/read from the forums, and if so fair enough.

Dev, you and I have discussed people tuning in to ITU races and you used your wife as an example. But you have said she only watches events that are in 3-30 min viewing time frame. My response is always “triathlon is an endurance sport…it’s not going to get dumb downed to 16 min race”. It just won’t, even at sprint distance that’s 50ish min race.

In that same light, if your 18-30 and have different motives than the culture of what is present among ST, it would make sense that demographic isn’t really present here, right?

So long winded post to say, in order to market to younger generation, it would take culture change from ST.

I THINK the culture of ST can be changed by what is on the front page. If you have enough content on the front page that appeals to 18-28 year olds, then it gradually pulls more of them into the forum ,and in numbers it changes the culture of the forum. I think the direction on the front page can affect that. I don’t think that swim-run or niche events like Norseman will pull in 18-28 year olds.

At the same time I don’t see anything wrong with appealing to 35-55 year olds. If that’s the core demographic of the site then fine. But you can’t change the direction of the sport by appealing to your existing customers entrenched in long course cookie cutter racing (I am one of them and I grew through the sport in the time of innovations and different course formats). I guess Dan would have to decide it he wants to use the platform of the site to change the direction of the sport and industry, or if he wants to use the site to cater to what his existing readers want to see. It’s a bit of push-pull.

This weekend, I don’t want to read about swim-run but that’s me. I want to read about in depth stuff from 70.3 World’s. I am having to go off to all kinds of other websites to get that. I would prefer to get that here, since most of the guys I compete with happen to be on this forum, or at least this forum influences them and we race the same format as those pros this weekend.

I don’t mind reading about swim-run and seeing the pictures any other time. Today, I want to head about Kienle vs Sanders. During the Rio Olympics I wanted to read about Brownlees vs best of of the rest. At the end of the day, I am an athlete first, and then a fan of the sport itself. But I am a fan foremost of the events that the best athletes in the sport are in. At Olympic distance I want to read about ITU athletes, and at half and full IM about those athletes. I’ll read with curiousity about Norseman or Swim-Run Otillo, but those guys are not the best elites in our sport. If they were, they would be winning ITU or at 70.3 Worlds or Kona and they are not.

In any case, every sport moves on. When I was doing tris in the 80’s the non drafting USTS tri series was huge. Scott Molina was cleaning up every weekend. These guys were already going 1:45-1:48 range with no drafting on 1985 equipment. It’s not surprising…Joan Benoit Samuelson ran 2:24, in LA84, the same winning time as the Rio marathon. Rob DeCastella ran 2:07 in the Rotterdam Marathon…4 min faster than Rio’s winning time (yes, I realized guys are running 4 min faster now at Berlin etc). The point being, at that time, some of the cookie cutter formats that we accept today were just exploding. And as a young person it was cool to aspire to break 2 hours in an Olympic tri or run a sub 2:40 marathon. We were revv’d up by that. My son is 20 and even though he is definitely non elite, his buddies who I coached are elite at tris and XC skiing. They don’t care to break 2:40 in a marathon. They don’t care about breaking 2 hours in an Olympic tri. Actually most of them think it would be cool to finish an IM at some point, but I think they are influenced by their ex coach having done that. I don’t think they are the norm.

I believe the sport has moved on from innovating with unique formats. Its an established sport where people care about fairly fixed formats. What type of racing and lifestyle do 18-28 year olds care about? I think this would be good for Dan to get more visibility into because that’s where we need to backfill the sport from.

Spasmus mentioned the youth development program, but having lived through watching all of that and the Kids of Steel stuff here in Canada etc etc, while some of this leads to a few pointy end performances, I don’t really care about grooming our next champions. What I care about is the next 100,000-500,000 participants in the sport. They can’t all be driven by Ironman, and they can’t all be driven by draft legal ITU racing either. That’s our problem. As a sport we have 2 extremes…IM long course that is a massive time and economic sink but is participant oriented and then for young people ITU racing which is a front of pack sport only and the numbers related to that are low relative to more “mass participation”.

So where do you go from here?

“What type of racing and lifestyle do 18-28 year olds care about? I think this would be good for Dan to get more visibility into because that’s where we need to backfill the sport from”.

i guess in the first place thease races need to be affordable
the swim run races we see here ,have similar entracne fees of ironman races and i think we see that the under 30s are priced out .

you’re crazy. I’ll take a D1 swim/runner over a college triathlete any day. Look where the money is… it’s in swimming and track.

It won’t shock me that by 2024 Olympics that not a single athlete in the pipeline will have a “single sport” background.
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Want to know which USAT event is by far the funniest for the big wigs at USAT?

Collegiate nats

Because it’s part fast front pack racing, but mostly team commradie of “average” athletes just busting their butt doing the best they can. It’s 2500 athletes scrapping all the money they can for a fun weekend of racing representing “their” university. It’s just such a drastic vibe than other triathlons, and it’s only seen at that event. They get no publicity, they barely can afford the trips, but they have such genuine commradie/care. It’s a really cool event that everyone should try and take in, plus you can cheer for “your” team (who doesn’t like seeing their school win).

But how many college threads do we have? Have many under 30 aged columnists/mang does ST even have.

Monday is first NCAA race, and I bet there won’t even be reporting on it nor a thread on it. Like I said, I get it. ST is for the IM middle aged guy. Nothing wrong with that, but when you want to change a culture, you have to be willing to shake things up. But then do you do that for the sake of change? Let’s be real ST is still a business at some point, you can’t alienate your customers entirely. That’s just reality.

(I coached uni team for 4 years but quit to focus on more high performance and I was volunteer coaching).

In 2016 and 2020 very likely true. In 2024 and beyond, I guess we’ll see, but I’m just crazy apparently.

Triathlete turned D1 swimmer is different than say a KZ who was runner and could swim but had zero Tri background.

Eta: pretty much all males will be single sport due to lack of college money. My point was they will all have JE DL background. Not this “hey you are fast D1 swimmer/runner who’s college career is over, want to try this sport called triathlon”.

That I don’t think will be the case at that point.

wait, are you saying that in the 2024 olympics, the track and swimming stars will have had triathlon experience?

Or are you saying in the 2024 Olympics the no top triathlete will have had a background like Gwen or Katie, whom I consider non-triathlete background peeps.

Or Javier Gomez, or the Brownlies, etc.

In 2016 and 2020 very likely true. In 2024 and beyond, I guess we’ll see, but I’m just crazy apparently.

Triathlete turned D1 swimmer is different than say a KZ who was runner and could swim but had zero Tri background.

That I don’t think will be the case at that point.

Eric I’m saying pretty much all the top pipeline athletes will have triathlon background. Of course the males will have to go “single sport” for the scholarship. But the GJ’s and KZ’s type of athlete who suddenly try riding a bike for 1st time at age 23, nope I don’t think they’ll be good enough by then. We already see that basically in the men’s side. If you don’t have 3 sport background your racing for 10th at best on international stage.

I think the junior elite series will be good/big enough that they can turn top JEs into D1 swim/runners and then stay in triathlon in summer/cross train and more easily filter into ITU.

The days of single sport athlete who have never done triathlon and still making it I think is going to be limited. As I said I think it’s 2 Olympic cycles and that athete won’t be able to make it.

Want to know which USAT event is by far the funniest for the big wigs at USAT?

Collegiate nats

Because it’s part fast front pack racing, but mostly team commradie of “average” athletes just busting their butt doing the best they can. It’s 2500 athletes scrapping all the money they can for a fun weekend of racing representing “their” university. It’s just such a drastic vibe than other triathlons, and it’s only seen at that event. They get no publicity, they barely can afford the trips, but they have such genuine commradie/care. It’s a really cool event that everyone should try and take in, plus you can cheer for “your” team (who doesn’t like seeing their school win).

But how many college threads do we have? Have many under 30 aged columnists/mang does ST even have.

Monday is first NCAA race, and I bet there won’t even be reporting on it nor a thread on it. Like I said, I get it. ST is for the IM middle aged guy. Nothing wrong with that, but when you want to change a culture, you have to be willing to shake things up. But then do you do that for the sake of change? Let’s be real ST is still a business at some point, you can’t alienate your customers entirely. That’s just reality.

(I coached uni team for 4 years but quit to focus on more high performance and I was volunteer coaching).

I think I am in the core ST demographic (aside from the white guy part), and I would rather see coverage of the collegiate racing and profiles of the top up and coming college age kids over norseman/celtman/swissman/swim-run. I also do want to see coverage of the major 70.3 and 140.6 race. We don’t need to see them all covered which I think is a waste of ST colunmist horsepower. I can just go to Ironman.com and go to the athlete tracker and see which pros did what. That’s a waste of ST resources having to chase down info that is elsewhere on the web anyway. I want to see a fairly in depth article on every ITU WCS race

I’d like to see coverage of some coverage of “local events”. Ex Set Up races, or John Salt’s regional events here in Ontario, just to show a local flavour. These don’t need to be written by ST columnists, then can be written by ST members at the local scene, just so the readership can see a sprinkling of “local events”. These articles don’t need to focus on the race winner (they could mention them in passing), but the local race ambiance, background with the race director on his/her community etc…the grassroots side of local racing that feeds the IM series. Would love to hear background on some local tri in Okinawa, or in Goa India, or in Eindhoven in the Netherlands, or a local tri in Oahu Hawaii. Don’t you guys think that would be cool?

Finally, I realize that I am asking to see a lot of stuff, but Dan asked what we want to see. When I get better healthwise, would be glad to help generate some of that content, and I think there are many others in the community that would be glad to help with some of that.

I don’t care to read about gear that much unless they are proper technical reviews like Dan does. Seeing pictures of bikes and bike porn, is relatively uninteresting for me, but that’s just me. I know others love the equipment stuff. The only reason why I have lost interest in equipment, is that 20 years from now, no one (probably other than me) will remember who was riding what. How many of you guys remember which bike Lothar Leder rode 20 years ago at Roth 1996 when be broke 8 hours? Well the story is he broke 8 hours, not the bike. But I’ll tell you what the bike was. It was a dual 650 Bianchi tri bike…5 minutes of searching on the internet and here it is…how many of you remember that? But the gear is not the story that stands the test of time.

http://ironjuergen.beepworld.de/files/lotarleder.jpg

I like it. It is a bit difficult to navigate at first but once you sort the general lay out it is intuitive.

I really like the international component to the forum. I like hearing perspectives from around the world. It makes sense to have articles that are of interest to people from all over and about interesting events.

I utilize the forum for technical advice. If swimming advice comes from a triathlete, a pure swimmer or a swim runner it really doesnt matter.

I also like the forum for commraderie. There is plenty of common ground between those doing tri/du/mono endurance sport to make good connections.

interesting articles about interesting people doing sports we like from anywhere at all suit me fine. Slowtwitch is clearly american but it would be nice if that became a little more blurry. I think the move to more global scope and eccentric view is positive.

The sport has changed a number of times since it began in the early 1980’s and the industry has been largely reactive instead of proactive in responding to the changes.

I would suggest the current trend in triathlon is toward the new athlete. The beginner. So if the goal of publishers is better readership, they need to adjust their editorial calendars to run content of interest to newer athletes.

Editors need to be pragmatic about those athletes too, since the industry- especially in triathlon cycling- has not been very realistic.

The narrative in bikes over the past decade has been the “wind-tunnel developed, white paper verified super bike”. But the bike you see most frequently at grass roots local triathlon is the $800-$2000 road bike with aerobars. The triathlon media has largely ignored that entire category in favor another article about how another $7000+ superbike has tested fastest in the wind tunnel. For the growing bottom 70% of triathletes who are new to the sport, that product is irrelevant. It isn’t even aspirational. In fact, it is a barrier to entry.

I think an editorial policy that included honest product reviews that are balanced but pull no punches and return no favors would build readership. Reviews of relevant product would build readership. Articles that talk about entry level concerns like overcoming swim anxiety, learning how to train consistently, building a healthy lifestyle to support balanced involvement in the sport- that editorial voice would resonate far and wide.

This is not to say the deep-tech content should go away. It should not entirely, but that voice needs to be moderated against a voice of inclusion rather than fostering the perception of exclusivity.

I think if you want to grow the sport then races with skiing and or kayaking elements and such is not the way to do it. It might sound extreme and fun and different but imo the biggest limiter to the sport is cost. Nothing more complicated than that. And these elements add to that cost. I mean lets be honest -you want an example of privilege look at triathlon- and especially long course - 700 dollars for a one day race on a course that isn’t even closed to traffic? Why the hell do we do that??? And I’m just as guilty. We should grow the sport by sharing the feeling it gives us- and simplify the perceived technology limits outsiders may feel stop them from entering ( most people have a hard time justifying the entry costs because they aren’t like the average upper class triathlon participant)

I think if you want to grow the sport then races with skiing and or kayaking elements and such is not the way to do it. It might sound extreme and fun and different but imo the biggest limiter to the sport is cost. Nothing more complicated than that. And these elements add to that cost. I mean lets be honest -you want an example of privilege look at triathlon- and especially long course - 700 dollars for a one day race on a course that isn’t even closed to traffic? Why the hell do we do that??? And I’m just as guilty. We should grow the sport by sharing the feeling it gives us- and simplify the perceived technology limits outsiders may feel stop them from entering ( most people have a hard time justifying the entry costs because they aren’t like the average upper class triathlon participant)

Newguy has a great point. When guys like Slowman and I were doing the sport as 20-30 year olds, we could do a local Olympic tri for $35 and an IM $150. Even taking inflation into account, those entry fees were accessible by doing entry level jobs. My first road bike was $400 that I used with running shoes and a speedo and a bell V1 pro helmet and googles. All in, I was racing for under $500 and you could be competitive on that gear. You can still do the sport with the same gear, but you may not be as competitive. Minimum total off ebay second hand gear, you’re looking at $1500 for a third hand basic tri bike, second hand wetsuit, bike shoes and running shoes.