It would be interesting to see what would happen with a Harris-Buttigieg ticket. My gut tells me the homophobia would be hard to tamp down on the right (maybe announce on Grindr?) and could work in the Dems favor. I know the left has had a hard-on for him for some time now so it would add the likability/excitement factor that Harris lacks on her own.
Wouldn’t happen, but it would be interesting to see play out. More so than what’s happening at the moment.
Harris will bring out the racist and sexist critics. Buttigieg will bring out the homophobes. I don’t want any part of that nonsense.
More importantly to me is that while Pete is more qualified than JD, but still pretty light on executive experience- as is Harris. He is generally likeable as well. The ticket would need more of both of those qualities.
And that’s why I suggested Democratic governors who have some likeability and popularity in their swing states to add executive experience to the ticket and move those swing states to the Dems.
You cant pull from any current US senator. The margins are too slim. So would have to be someone from the house, state legislature, or gov.
I would actually hope that the demmys just go with an f-that route, and select paul ryan or romney as a VP.
Thin Senate margins, agreed. But winning a vacated AZ seat with Kelly as POTUS, is easier than dealing with the 2025ers.
The twin brother can go to AZ.
You cant pull from any current US senator. The margins are too slim. So would have to be someone from the house, state legislature, or gov.
I would actually hope that the demmys just go with an f-that route, and select paul ryan or romney as a VP.
Manchin would be the smarter move I think. He’s the closest thing to reaching across the aisle either party would condone. Wouldn’t deliver WV but may be influential in other battleground states.
If we’re just throwing shit out there, my across the aisle pick would be Hogan. Never Trumper on the rise, not the way out.
You cant pull from any current US senator. The margins are too slim. So would have to be someone from the house, state legislature, or gov.
I would actually hope that the demmys just go with an f-that route, and select paul ryan or romney as a VP.
Manchin would be the smarter move I think. He’s the closest thing to reaching across the aisle either party would condone. Wouldn’t deliver WV but may be influential in other battleground states.
If we’re just throwing shit out there, my across the aisle pick would be Hogan. Never Trumper on the rise, not the way out.
Hulk or Larry? The former needs to know before he gives a speech tonight.
You cant pull from any current US senator. The margins are too slim. So would have to be someone from the house, state legislature, or gov.
I would actually hope that the demmys just go with an f-that route, and select paul ryan or romney as a VP.
Ha! I swear I just saw an nyt oped about Democrats living in a West Wing fantasy (which sounds great honestly). Not a joke at your expense I just thought it was funny given the Santos / Vinnick denouement (after Vinnick was talked out of running for the next cycle because he would be…70).
You cant pull from any current US senator. The margins are too slim. So would have to be someone from the house, state legislature, or gov.
I would actually hope that the demmys just go with an f-that route, and select paul ryan or romney as a VP.
Manchin would be the smarter move I think. He’s the closest thing to reaching across the aisle either party would condone. Wouldn’t deliver WV but may be influential in other battleground states.
If we’re just throwing shit out there, my across the aisle pick would be Hogan. Never Trumper on the rise, not the way out.
Hulk or Larry? The former needs to know before he gives a speech tonight.
WHATchagonna do brother!?!
We are down to only one degree of separation from achieving Idiocracy.
Hopefully Terry Crews makes an appearance at the DNC and cuts it down to 0.5
The main problem with Manchin as I see it, he’s 76 years old. This whole thought exercise as I understand it, is who can beat trump/vance. But also, reset the average age of the Oval Office back a couple decades while we’re at it.
Likely a white male with executive experience and low negative polling numbers.
Someone gay or trans.
Lia Thomas is available (no olympics), but, alas, not old enough. Though one could argue if we can throw out one distinction for college swimming, why not throw one out for VP?
Qualifications, shamallifications.
The main problem with Manchin as I see it, he’s 76 years old. This whole thought exercise as I understand it, is who can beat trump/vance. But also, reset the average age of the Oval Office back a couple decades while we’re at it.
I agree with this.
Create two juxtapositions.
Harris makes Trump look like a grumpy old man that is past his sell-by date.
Pick someone that makes Vance look like an inexperienced child, a terrible pick, not nearly ready to be a heartbeat away, while NOT being too old yourself.
That puts the VP between late 40 and early 60s, I think.
The “safe†and forward thinking ticket would be Harris-(popular white male D governor). I think that’s the likely scenario. If I were a betting man, I’d say Harris-Newsome but I just can’t get past his CA baggage in this cycle. He’s certainly the most high profile and dynamic candidate of the options. But that doesn’t move swing states much on policy or style, I wouldn’t think.
The “safe†and forward thinking ticket would be Harris-(popular white male D governor). I think that’s the likely scenario. If I were a betting man, I’d say Harris-Newsome but I just can’t get past his CA baggage in this cycle. He’s certainly the most high profile and dynamic candidate of the options. But that doesn’t move swing states much on policy or style, I wouldn’t think.
I’m not in CA and don’t know Newsome well. Do folks think he’d even have interest in the VP slot? Based on the very little I’ve seen of him I’m guessing not?
We can’t have a ticket where both candidates are from CA, as we would lose all those electors. Maybe one could argue that Kamala resides in DC, not CA, but I’d sure hate to bet the election on some court buying that argument. Rubio could perhaps have moved to GA, and thus solve the 2x Florida problem he and Trump would have had. But, Gavin is a Governor. Moving him to some other state seems problematic.
Hard to get past the two female candidate ticket. Doesn’t bother me a bit but, Iâ€m not a midwestern undecided.
I don’t know anything about Cooper. The KY Gov is intriguing, a better J.D. Vance but may not turn a swing state, and certainly not his home state.
Interesting though, have Biden and Harris do a joint town hall style debate on the first day of the convention, a non-contentious compare and contrast and let the delegates decide who they want on the top of the ticket. Should be a pretty easy choice and reassuring to Dems that they’re putting the strongest candidate forward. Biden could use it as a launching pad for her run and a graceful exit in front of an appreciative party.