When and how to upgrade my bike

Hi Slowtwitchers, I would like to get your opinion on something, but first I should give you some background:

This year I really began to take triathlon training seriously. For the past 4 years, I have been a competitive swimmer and water polo player, but competed in triathlons in the summer. After retiring from those two sports, I have been able to really get into biking and running. Coming down to college in September I only had 250 miles on my bike (basically only from the triathlons that I had done, barely any training on it), but I now have about 3000 (about 2750 gain in 7 months!). Now that tri season has really picked up, I am thankfully seeing the results of all of my training and I’m pretty pleased – top in my age-group for the past two races, and first place in my first road race and time trial (Women’s B). I still have 6-7 races that I will be doing this season, not to mention any cycling races that I might decide to enter. So here is my question (finally!):

Something on my bike (Bianchi Veloce) seems to go wrong every time I go riding. First, the aerobars broke during the time trial. Then the shifting cable broke, then I crashed and had to get a new back tire. Now, my brakes are going quite bad, I think I need a new chain and cassette (still riding the stuff that the bike came with), and yesterday one of my cleats broke. I plan on being in the sport of triathlon and cycling for many, many more years, and am wondering if I should upgrade to getting a real triathlon bike? Instead of just buying nice new components for this road bike, I was thinking it might be a better investment to get a triathlon bike. Then I could maybe get some junky components for the road bike to train on, and have a nice racing bike. I just don’t know if it would be wise to get a low end bike, and graduate from that in a few years, or go all out and get a real nice set-up, and feel the burden of my purchase for a few years!! What are your thoughts???

Nice new tri-bike.

Your welcome.

You have to answer a few questions first.

  1. What is your budget if opting for a new bike.

  2. What are you going to do with this bike. Is it for triathlons and solo training only or do you also intend to group ride, etc. Also what kind of a terrain do you ride on? Is it flat and strait or hilly and technical?

  3. What year was it made and which gruppo are on your Bianchi. If it’s fairly modern maybe all you need is a decent mechanic. If it’s fairly ancient it’s worth replacing for something newer.

You’ve mentioned also doing cycling races so it seems that you’re definately needing a road bike rather than a tri bike.

keep the bianchi as a road bike then get a dedicated TT/tri machine
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I sincerely don’t mean to sound condescending when I say: I suggest you learn how to take care of your bike before you consider spending big $$$ for a new one. These are all simple replacements of wearable parts, except the broken aerobars. 3000 miles isn’t so much for a bike that it is anywhere near the end of its life-cycle. It can seem like it, though, if you haven’t done proper upkeep…cleaning/degreasing drivetrain, keeping nuts and bolts tightened, repacking wheel and bottom bracket bearings (if they aren’t sealed cartridge type).

I would not go for the low-end bike. Frankly there are going to be guys kicking your ass in all these races on bikes MUCH older than yours…they’ve just kept them up.

I completely understand the utter captivation of all the sexy gear. But as you’re just getting your feet wet…believe me when I say that if you’ll just put in a modicum of upkeep that your bike is not going to be your limiter for a long time.

I love stories like yours!
Nothing fancy…ALL motor and heart.

It sounds like you have quite a future in multisport,so I would say get a dedicated Tri bike.There are plenty out there for the budget minded.
If you can get fitted for a Cervelo Dual…its lb. for lb. one of the best going.

Keep your Bianchi.Get it overhauled as it has served you well and will continue to do so with some TLC.
I had one, they are fantastic.

Good Luck!

fish

  1. What is your budget if opting for a new bike.

I guess it’s unrealistic to say that my budget is cheap. I spent $1200 for the Bianchi, including shoes, new saddle, clip on aerobars, and computer. Unless I find a great deal on ebay or something, I guess I am expecting to pay around $1500 for the new bike, including wheels. Is it possible to get a nice tri bike for about that?

  1. What are you going to do with this bike. Is it for triathlons and solo training only or do you also intend to group ride, etc. Also what kind of a terrain do you ride on? Is it flat and strait or hilly and technical?

I would only use this bike for triathlons, and time trials in cycling. Occasionally I would probably train on it for some of my harder, shorter workouts. I train on mostly rolling terrain, not in the mountains, but not all flat.

  1. What year was it made and which gruppo are on your Bianchi. If it’s fairly modern maybe all you need is a decent mechanic. If it’s fairly ancient it’s worth replacing for something newer.

I think it is a 2002, with Campy parts. I don’t know if I gave the wrong idea, but I definitely want to keep the road bike, I am just looking into getting that back into shape and maybe getting another one for racing.

Thank you for your advice, you didn’t sound condescending at all! I agree that I need to be better about taking care of my bike, and also agree that it is in no need of replacement, probably just a new chain and possibly brake pads. I am really just wondering if it would be in my best interest to keep this bike for training and road races, and use a triathlon bike for triathlons and cycling time trials.

I just bought a brand new Felt s-22 (2004) that the shop wanted to be rid of before the 2005’s got built. This is Felt’s next to the top model. I saw some s-25’s going for $1300 at the shop too. Paid $1650 plus tax for my s-22. Had to swap the piece of crap saddle for a San Marco Aspide, but that was it.

I’d also put about $250 into your Bianchi and then $15 for a book on how to maintain it, and $100 for your basic tool kit. Learn to fix your bike, it’s a skill you will keep for a lifetime and will pay for itself many times over!

Happy racing, Karma

“I think it is a 2002, with Campy parts.”

It’s seems very likely that you’re doing zero maintenance on your bike. There is no way that a three year old Bianchi with Campy should be breaking things as you describe. Bikes ae mechanical machines and need regular maintence. For example cables and chain should be replaced every year just as routine.

You have a very good road bike but you need to take it to the LBS and spend $100-150. on a full tune up. This should be done at least once a year.

If it was me, I’d keep the Bianchi and save up for a good bang for the buck tri bike like a Cervelo Dual or a Felt. It’s always nice to have both bikes and if you can only have one, IMO it would always be a road bike.

I should also add that I’m in full agreement with Karma that you should invest in a few tools and good bike maintenance book such as Zinn’s “The Art of Road Bike Maintenance”.

Check around, often the LBS may offer a basic course on bike maintenence. Sometimes such courses are also available as evening general interest courses at local community colleges.

I own a tri shop in New York that does not sell bikes, so a lot of people turn to us for advice about what bike to buy because our recommendations are 100% neutral.

Remember that after you buy your bike there’s a lot more equipment you’ll need or want. (See the list at the end of this post). All that’s going to run at least an extra $400-$600, probably more. You also need running and swimming gear which might include a wetsuit. That’s money you need to subtract from your total triathlon budget before you buy the bike. Bike shops don’t tell you about all those extras until after you’ve spent your entire budget on the bike.

Competing at your level, getting a triathlon specific bike makes sense. However, and this is very important, a Tri bike is your second bike. Every triathlete needs a road bike, not every triathlete needs a tri bike. You’ll end up doing a lot of your training on your road bike, and your Tri or TT specific training on your Tri bike. You’ll also use your road bike for group rides and more casual riding.

So you need to figure out how much money you have available to invest in the sport. Then figure out what equipment you need that you don’t have yet and subtract that out. Then figure out what you’ll have to spend to get your road bike in decent shape and to learn how to take good care of it. After all that, you’ll have your budget for a Tri bike. If you’ve got at least $1500 available, it’s worth getting a tri specific bike.

If you are going to get a tri specific bike, the measurements are VERY important. Don’t just get a bike that’t the right size for you, because frame size is just teh seat tuve length. You care about more than that one dimension – you need the seat tube angle, the top tube length, and the height of the headset crown to all be correct for your optimal position. Don’t just buy the Cervelo or the Felt or whatever else your LBS has in stock.

First, the seat tube length + seatpost length controls how far your pelvis is from the pedals. The ideal is mostly a function of the length of your bones, although stronger cyclists can tolerate more leg extention, which translates to a higher saddle.

Then you have to worry about finding your most powerful hip angle. Here’s what I mean: sit on your bike totally upright riding with no hands and you’ll output a certain amount of power. Now lean forward absolutely as far as you can go with your hands in the drops and you’ll output a different amount of power. Those are the extremes of your hip angle. Somewhere inbetween is your maximum power and comfort, and it’ll take you a while to find it. Professional bike fitters will put you on a fitting bike and a computrainer, and will vary the hip angle as you ride and graph your power output. But as your muscles develop and your recruitment patterns change, your ideal hip angle will change. Likewise, in longer races some of your muscles will fatigue before others, so your ideal angle will be different for long vs short rides. That’s what makes bike positioning an art.

Once you know the hip angle you want to aim for, you can look at the combination of effective seat tube angle and handlebar height. If your hip angle stays the same and you move the saddle forward, the handlebars need to be lower and further forward. The further forward your bike will let you move the saddle, the more aggressive and aerodynamic your position will be. But you have to be careful to keep your power output the same by keeping your hip angle the same – you literally want to rotate your whole body in space around your feet without changing your hip angle. Many triathletes will ride right on the nose of a very long saddle like the Arionne, but for long races you may find that uncomfortable to say the least. You also have to be worried about the clearance between the tops of your knees and the bottoms of your elbows – the lower your front and the tighter your hip angle the more likely you’ll bang your elbows into your knees.

It’s only once you get the saddle in the right place and the handlebars in the right place that you can determine the right top tube length. The bike that offers a geometry that accomodates those dimensions is the right bike for you. A professional bike fitter, with a fitting bike that allows him/her to vary the geometry while you ride, is the best way to do this analysis. Once you’ve done that, you’ll know the seat tube length and top tube length to look for, and only then should you start shopping for a bike.

Hope that helps a little. Attached is a short list of other essentials for triathlon that you should think about as you do your budgeting.

“What else do I need for triathlons besides the bike?”

Here’s a partial list:

Must haves: Helmet Tri shorts Sports Bra(s) Sunglasses (shatter resistant) Multitool Tire levers Spare tubes Saddle bag Pump that mounts on your bike frame or CO2 cartridge systemWater bottle cages Running shoes Wristwatch with stopwatchVery nice to also have Cycling Shorts Tri specific top Clipless Pedals Cycling Shoes Aerobars Professional bike fitting Cycling computer Waterproof jacket Wetsuit Runner’s Cap Indoor bike trainer Gym membership

Lee Silverman
JackRabbit Sports
Park Slope, Brooklyn