Have you thought about Stan’s Alpha 340s laced with cx-ray spokes and some light hubs. They’re 23 mm wide and can easily be built sub 1200 grams. You get light and wide.
I can’t help with alternatives, but I’m a big 101 fan. I bought them because they were a good deal at the time (not much more than the DT465 wheelset I was looking at) for general training use. They certainly exceeded expectations and didn’t come off my bike most of last race season, even with a set of 404’s available. I don’t have any data, but they feel reasonably aero and have a great feel to them. I’m not saying they are my choice for TT’s, but they are great for crits,road races, and fast group rides. I almost feel guilty riding them for training (coming from a guy that trains on 404’s pretty often as well).
Have you thought about Stan’s Alpha 340s laced with cx-ray spokes and some light hubs. They’re 23 mm wide and can easily be built sub 1200 grams. You get light and wide.
They are only 20mm wide and 22mm tall.
Yep your right, they are only 20mm…My bad…Still would be a great wheelset to build up in my opinion though.
The zipp 101 seems like the best choice
Tour tested it and a bunch of other wheelsets. It didn’t do that well. Starts here: http://www.tour-qtr.com/epaper_4_2011
I’d guess that the shaping doesn’t work that well on a 30mm deep rim.
Yep your right, they are only 20mm…My bad…Still would be a great wheelset to build up in my opinion though.
Not so aero, but the Stan’s bead socket makes the tire wider and rounder than any other clincher rim. I’ve had a couple instances of tire beads stretching and blowing off, however.
The zipp 101 seems like the best choice
Tour tested it and a bunch of other wheelsets. It didn’t do that well. Starts here: http://www.tour-qtr.com/epaper_4_2011
I’d guess that the shaping doesn’t work that well on a 30mm deep rim.
Huh? Was that supposed to be pink?
If you aren’t going to have a second set of race wheels, I would suggest going with the Jet5’s. Honestly, that setup is a bit of a compromise (heavy, tweener aero), but it is durable enough for training for sure.
If you anticipate getting some race wheels in the future and you want to have a true training wheel I would either go with Hed Ardennes, or the Pacenti’s with Alchemy / CK / or DT 240s if you can find them for your pricing. If not, maybe you can build the Pacenti with DT350s to get it into your range.
I have the Belgium’s and they are a killer training wheel, but hard to get these days (Hed is pushing the Ardennes). You should be able to find 2012 Ardennes in your price range and it is a great wheel.
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3T is massively discounting their new Accelero 40 wheels, saw this deal on nashbar and amazon:
http://www.amazon.com/3T-Accelero-40-Pro-Wheelset/dp/B009HU5Q2Q
I’m tempted to buy and rebuild with Sapim CX-ray spokes…
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Hmmm…so, how does performing equal to, or outright beating wheels that are 20mm deeper equate to “didn’t do that well”?
It did worse than the 24mm deep Corima wheel, and worse than several of the “all-around” wheels. The best all-around wheel looks like a XR300 rim with 16 aero spokes (imagine if they put a 20mm tire on it instead of a 23mm). None of the all-arounders were 23+mm wide. The ALX 730 was 21.9mm wide and 23.2mm deep and it was just a hair below the 101 for aero.
The take away IMO, is that a rounded fairly wide rim does not need to be very deep to perform well for aero, and also be easy to handle in crosswinds. Many/most rims up to the 50mm range don’t do much for aero, and even the very deep ones provide little benefit until the yaw >10 deg… which is precisely where many riders decide that the wind is too scary and won’t use them!
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Hmmm…so, how does performing equal to, or outright beating wheels that are 20mm deeper equate to “didn’t do that well”?
The Zipp 101s are a pretty amazingly aero wheel for its shallow depth and aluminum construction. I’m curious to why someone would prefer the 101s to let’s say a set of Flo 6s or Hed 5 Express since the pricing is almost the same. Increased durability?
Well, it also got beat by the shallower Corima wheel. And if you compare the “watts” numbers to previous editions of Tour, (which obviously isn’t ideal but when similar wheels are tested across different editions they are usually very close, as they are using the same tunnel and test parameters) the Zipp 101 is no better than the Easton EA90 TT, definitely worse at low yaw but doesn’t “make up” for it at higher yaw.
I think 101 is a very good alloy wheel, but for $1325, I’d rather take some Bontrager Aura 5, Hed Jet 5, hell the Zipp 60 is close in price; or maybe some of the new wide toroidal blunt wheels from the up and comers like Flo, Boyd or November. Its just a weird price point for any alloy wheel.
If you want 101’s, you should try to find a used set. 2 sold on ebay yesterday for around $700-$800.
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Hmmm…so, how does performing equal to, or outright beating wheels that are 20mm deeper equate to “didn’t do that well”?
The Zipp 101s are a pretty amazingly aero wheel for its shallow depth and aluminum construction. I’m curious to why someone would prefer the 101s to let’s say a set of Flo 6s or Hed 5 Express since the pricing is almost the same. Increased durability?
If you race hilly courses… weight matters.
Also, ease of maintenance for training.
I flatted on my deep rims once and no-one in my group had a tube that worked.
Had to call for a lift home.
The Zipp 101s are a pretty amazingly aero wheel for its shallow depth and aluminum construction.
No they aren’t. Read the Tour tests… the “all-arounder” test also.
That one? I don’ think you can compare the aero data from that chart vs the one with the FC 808 and Hed Jet 9
Compare the wattage values at 50km/hr for the yaw sweep.
it does seem reasonable that they took the data in the same session considering they were published at the same time.
Either way, Tour’s data seems to be pretty consistent as I said above. Zipp 101 “watts” according to their calcs are 6.0/15.0/29.2 and the ALX shallow tubeless wheels were 6.3/15.0/29.4 and the Kinlin 30mm wheel was 6.0/14.1/27.6.