Looked like Wout Poels was just putting out just over 7 w/kg to finish a climb FTW.
Any other interesting numbers out there??
Zakarin did ~5.2w/kg for a 70min race. DeGendt was putting out serious power when he was flagged
Zakarin did ~5.2w/kg for a 70min race. DeGendt was putting out serious power when he was flagged
Unfortunately, the Joe Schmoe who was with De Gendt wasn’t. Said Monsieur Schmoe was doing 560 W for a full 6.5 minutes, all the while with avg HR in the 130s.
Therein lies the issue with zwift.
There are no problems with Zwift, there is a problem with people thinking those are legit races. I am soooo tired of all the whiners complaining about nation x with so much guy with big numbers or rider y with so high watt and so on. Cheating in sport is inevitable but cheating connected at home ? It’s super easy. It’s absolutely impossible to guarantee all trainer are properly calibrated within 2%, that all weight are reight or up to date. Then some we’ll cheat, it’s in the very nature of man and competition.
Just enjoy your ride and don’t think too much about guy X who push too much watt.
Lawson Craddock has been doing the zwift Austin Driveway series races. Won both so far. Did 5.3w/kg for 52 min last race.
There are no problems with Zwift, there is a problem with people thinking those are legit races. I am soooo tired of all the whiners complaining about nation x with so much guy with big numbers or rider y with so high watt and so on. Cheating in sport is inevitable but cheating connected at home ? It’s super easy. It’s absolutely impossible to guarantee all trainer are properly calibrated within 2%, that all weight are reight or up to date. Then some we’ll cheat, it’s in the very nature of man and competition.
Just enjoy your ride and don’t think too much about guy X who push too much watt.
they flagged De Gendt (who was either doing the effort to which the guy responded or vice versa), but not the guy doing 550W for 6.5 min at 130 bpm. that’s an algorithm issue, alas Zwift issue
Either both should have been flagged or neither should have been flagged. To have selectively give one person a pass while flagging someone else doing a similar effort is the manifestation of some whack algorithm
At the 2004 time trial up Alpe d’Huez only 11 guys went sub 40 min, in fact there is only about 50 performances recorded to be sub 40 min and that of course includes a bunch of druggies. Compared to Alpe d’Zwift, plenty of guys sub 37 min (somewhat equivalent as the distance is shorter). I have done both, and actually find the real deal easier at least mentally. But then again some guys are just really good at indoor stuff.
FYI, not saying none of the top Alpe z’wift performances are legit, just find it hard to believe that real word class guys like Brajkovic or Cavagna get beaten by a bunch of random semi-pros even if they aren’t fully trying.
This was due to a bug that Rappstar identified and rectified with the most recent update. 3 of my teammates (haha, teammates) were coned.
Zwift races right now are the Wild West.
Alpe du Zwift is much faster than the real thing.
Without weigh in and calibration, this problem has existed from the first computrainer interactive ride ever. The other thing that is totally different from the real world is aero position. Indoors, you have no incentive to make yourself small. Outdoors, you trade off making yourself smaller vs less watts for more speed (or not). Even on the real Alpe d’Huez, some switchbacks are tailwind, and you can open up, or stand and others you can have a howling headwind and its worth getting smaller and riding at slightly lower watts. When you have a 20 kph headwind and you’re riding 15 kph, its still 35kph relative wind. If you have a mate to ride with, drafting can make an appreciable difference even at those low speeds (if not, drafting would make no difference in running and we know it does).
Definitely disagree, I found the real climb easier. To each their own.
Still, looking at the stats, semi-pros holding 6 w/kg over 35 minutes seems a bit suspect, not for a world tour guy though.
There are no problems with Zwift, there is a problem with people thinking those are legit races. I am soooo tired of all the whiners complaining about nation x with so much guy with big numbers or rider y with so high watt and so on. Cheating in sport is inevitable but cheating connected at home ? It’s super easy. It’s absolutely impossible to guarantee all trainer are properly calibrated within 2%, that all weight are reight or up to date. Then some we’ll cheat, it’s in the very nature of man and competition.
Just enjoy your ride and don’t think too much about guy X who push too much watt.
Exactly, Helen Keller could pick out a winner before the race and it would be as accurate as the final results. Trainer companies calibrate power different, Internet speed, racer weight, WiFi signal strength. Racing is good for a hard workout but thats all.
Definitely disagree, I found the real climb easier. To each their own.
Still, looking at the stats, semi-pros holding 6 w/kg over 35 minutes seems a bit suspect, not for a world tour guy though.
Maybe their weighing scales have lbs, kilos and stones and they confused the stones setting for kilos haha !!!
I was grinding up some 10% climb when passed by a dude doing, I swear, better than 20mph. Check his w/kg — 9.7 and colored orange. I figured he’s got his ebike on the trainer!
I was grinding up some 10% climb when passed by a dude doing, I swear, better than 20mph. Check his w/kg — 9.7 and colored orange. I figured he’s got his ebike on the trainer!
Lance would have given a second body part for that type of orange juice if Ferrari could have come up with it!!!
YOu speak like you’ve done the climb before. Maybe you have. Maybe it was on an aluminum Soloist =)
I am soooo tired of all the whiners complaining about nation x with so much guy with big numbers
Please, do say more.
Like how there’s a very significant portion of faked rides on the Zwift segments on Strava that happen to be from a certain region?
Alpe du Zwift is much faster than the real thing.
for sure… no altitude. funny as I was doing it, half way through my wife closes the house door and heat went through the roof, causing me to drop 20w. I guess that can be altitude simulation
Oh how I chuckled… I know a thing or two bout folks who can hold 400w+ for 60mins.
Guess I’m mostly surprised at how many guys on there are right around 60 kg or less (sarcasm). Most of the citizens races I have done end in someone doing 6-7 w/kg for the last 3-5 minutes. Any idea how Zwift actually verifies weight?