These shoes have about 120 miles on them. I was using the Brooks GTS 13 and decided to try out the Hoka Bondi 2. It seems there is a lot of wear on the outside heels as well as the arch. My feet use to hurt a little running in these for the first 20 or so miles but now feel good. I don’t believe there is much support in these shoes. Am I a severe over pronator? Am I more likely to get an injury with these shoes? I know I have low arches and wide feet. I’m just not sure on the pronation part. Thoughts?
From what I can tell by the picture your first point of contact is your heel. It’s a good indication that you have a stride rate that is on the low side and you’re not landing with your feet under your hips. No matter what shoe you wear or stability control you use, heel first contact will increase your chance of injury. Most common thing would be shin splints.
I’d focus on quickening your cadence and landing under your hips before worrying about an equipment change. I have to admit I have no experience with Hoka clown shoes so hopefully someone else chimes in.
Also on the topic of pronation: People love to throw around (especially in shoe store) “oh you definitely pronate”, “you need orthodics” etc.
Everyone pronates, you’re supposed to. Don’t let anyone on the forum or in a store tell you that you over pronate without them watching you run. Walking doesn’t count, everyone’s form changes from walk to run.
You are right! I have a slow cadence and have been working on increasing my cadence recently and landing beneath my hips. Thanks for the info. As for the clown shoes, if only there was a way to put goldfish in the heels I would be complete.
You my friend have a business partner if you ever want to bring that idea to fruition!
On a serious note, I’d say you’re headed in the right direction with that work you’re putting in. Throughout high school I was plagued with shin problems despite using stability shoes and orthodics, seeing doctors etc. Went to college, met a crazy tri dude who insisted on changing my stride. 4 years later and I haven’t had a problem.
As for shoes I’m on the complete opposite side of the spectrum, do most of my runs basically in flats. So as to what effect the Hokas have on your problem, definitely seek some other insight.
I’ve seen a few shoes and I can’t remember seeing a pair with wear on the arches that didn’t have at least some wear at the first metatarsal or toes. Not sure what that means other than the foam in the arch is super soft and prone to wear. Most shoes dont have that much ground contact space at the arch though. Definitely a heel striker, but I’d save judgement about how much pronation until I saw you run. Being a heel striker isn’t a sin, but it does have its disadvantages as the poster above stated. Having heavy pronation isn’t necessarily bad either as long as you get the right amount of shoe stability.
You went down 50% in heel drop as well. 12 to 6 which isn’t insignificant. All in all, the bondi 2 and adrenaline are not really close to the same shoe. Did a shop fit you for either one of these?
To assess pronation, you need to be watched while running. Your shoes tell me that you land heavily on the outside of your heel, possibly from your stride reaching too far in front of your body, but again, you need to be watched while running to really confirm that. If you’ve got a PT or podiatrist that owes you a favor, ask them to take a look. My feet and arches were sore for my first couple of runs in Hokas, and it sounds like your feet adapted fairly quickly, so that is a good sign. Hokas help to mitigate that initial impact, so it should lessen the injury risk of overstriding, and it sounds like you are heading in the right direction by shortening your stride.
Now if you are severely falling over the instep in Hokas and start to notice some pains associated with that, Hokas might not be a good fit. Again, hard to tell with out seeing you running in the shoes.
These shoes have about 120 miles on them. I was using the Brooks GTS 13 and decided to try out the Hoka Bondi 2. It seems there is a lot of wear on the outside heels as well as the arch. My feet use to hurt a little running in these for the first 20 or so miles but now feel good. I don’t believe there is much support in these shoes. Am I a severe over pronator? Am I more likely to get an injury with these shoes? I know I have low arches and wide feet. I’m just not sure on the pronation part. Thoughts?
I’ve seen a few shoes and I can’t remember seeing a pair with wear on the arches that didn’t have at least some wear at the first metatarsal or toes. Not sure what that means other than the foam in the arch is super soft and prone to wear. Most shoes dont have that much ground contact space at the arch though. Definitely a heel striker, but I’d save judgement about how much pronation until I saw you run. Being a heel striker isn’t a sin, but it does have its disadvantages as the poster above stated. Having heavy pronation isn’t necessarily bad either as long as you get the right amount of shoe stability.
You went down 50% in heel drop as well. 12 to 6 which isn’t insignificant. All in all, the bondi 2 and adrenaline are not really close to the same shoe. Did a shop fit you for either one of these?
Good points, and the Bondi is actually a 4.5mm drop, so even lower (The Stinsons are 6mm), which is what I am attributing his initial foot soreness too. If you do need a more stable shoe but enjoy the cushioning/ concept of Hoka, our new Conqest has tested to be just as stable (pronation wise) as your old Adrenaline.
