Wetsuits are an abomination

Swim splits from my 45-49 AG at today’s NJ Triathlon (Olympic), wetsuits not allowed (name/swim rank overall/swim split):

Kenneth Lehner 37 22:09
Rick Hrabchak 100 25:57:00
Jorge Espinosa 103 26:03:00
Richard Morrison 107 26:15:00
Jim Sonneborn 141 28:00:00
Robert Kelly 144 28:05:00
Stuart Young 157 28:32:00
Donald Ferguson 158 28:32:00
Charles Logan 172 28:50:00
Thomas Casey 189 29:15:00
Bruce Kuo 200 29:32:00
Christopher Cummins 206 29:38:00

The other 35 finishers were over 30:00. Doesn’t **anyone **know how to swim?

(the race featured the 2005 Best of the US champion Christopher Martin at 19:32 and 2006 Best of the US champion David Silver at 18:32 (fastest swim split of the day))

If I accuse you of drive-by-gloating on the first reply, I really think this thread can go places. Did you end up winning the race?

The other 35 finishers were over 30:00. Doesn’t **anyone **know how to swim?

Nope, most don’t. Why would they invest the time in learning properly when they have a wetsuit for most of the races, and the swim for most AG’ers is a very insignificant part of the race due to it’s disproportionate length compared to the other 2 disciplines?

Swim splits from my 45-49 AG at today’s NJ Triathlon (Olympic), wetsuits not allowed (name/swim rank overall/swim split):

The other 35 finishers were over 30:00. Doesn’t **anyone **know how to swim?
Not in low-prestige, obscure local races like that. Take a look at your AG’s swim results from Vineman today when they’re posted (there were wetsuits, which was a joke in that 77F water). But evena wetsuit can’t cover up THAT bad of a swimmer. For what it’s worth, I swim 37:XX half-IM with or without.

You’re a bad man, Martin.

:wink:

There were a handful of other races in the tri-state that rated a tad higher on the scale than that one today; perhaps the dilution of talent is to blame?

PS - no, nobody knows how to swim. why, is there a need?

19 417 I Kenneth Lehner 49 M TINTON NJ 36 22:09 24:36 1:02 41 1:02:06 22.4 0:43 38 40:51 6:36 2:06:48 1 M45-49 19 M

20 763 I Des Nunan 53 M OCEAN C NJ 32 21:54 24:20 1:44 12 59:24 23.4 1:12 70 43:06 6:58 2:07:19 1 M50-54 20 M

Apparantly the 53 year oldster that finished just behind you in the overall knows how to swim! (take that you young whipper-snapper) :slight_smile:

Nice race, what ya doin’ to celebrate?

Wetsuits are an abomination
while i may sympathize with your perspective about weak swimmers, do a race with a 1500 meter swim in the pacific ocean in northern california, and you will conclude otherwise about the abomination part.

Did you end up winning the race?

Surely you jest.

You mean this guy?

http://qpplus.partypics.com/events/26228055/0001/0099.jpg

Taken at our race last weekend. Des and I go way back :slight_smile:

(for the record, Des won the 2001 World AG 45-49 championships)

How was the race? I was hoping to make it up there, but I was not able to do so last minute. I would have enjoyed a good non-wetsuit swim…

How cold is the ocean over on the west coast? just curious. 58* in Maine

don’t live there right now, but a few years ago, i did 1+ mile swims (in a tri) in 56 deg. water.

atlantic or pacific, for those of us without a lot of ‘natural’ insulation, wetsuits are no luxury in those conditions …

How was the race? I was hoping to make it up there, but I was not able to do so last minute. I would have enjoyed a good non-wetsuit swim…

Nice swim, albeit a bit crowded (3:00 between waves), but navigable. Bike course was funky (three out-and-backs into various parking lots!) and short, around 23 miles by my computer, with some rolling but mostly flat. Well done, but the awards (a medal on a little plastic stand) and the post-race food (everyone got a cookie, a pretzel, some apple slices, and some pizza sans cheese) left much to be desired.

Good to do a non-wetsuit swim in a reasonable body of water: no current, no chop.

I keep going back and forth on whether I want the wetsuit when I ocean-swim or not. I have an aversion to the thing for several reasons… but that water is cold. I never notice the temp if I’m just playing in it, but when you start trying to really swim the cold is exhausting!

So you know how to swim. Want a cookie?

I wouldn’t have a problem with wetsuits if the temperature cutoff was 68F. You’re getting to a point where the cold is a legit problem with those temps.

But when you’re allowing wetsuits for temperatures that are perfectly normal swimming pool temperatures, then it really is nothing about warmth issues.

72 deg. and you got a deal.

yeah, i only need and like my wetsuit when is cold.

otherwise, i’d much rather fight it out without one.

Killer swim, killer race. Guess I am toast next year. :o(

Dave

What may be even worse is that 51 people still chose to wear wetsuits in that very warm water!

I, by the way, swam a 27:30 which I was quite happy about. I am improving while still needing improvement.

Chris.