I have 65 miles on a pair of Hoka Cliftons and I’m seeing what I think is significant wear on the left shoe, picture attached. Wanted to see if anyone else thinks it’s a lot of wear for 65 miles.
I don’t see the picture, but I imagine it is significant. I have 235 miles on mine and I wouldn’t classify any of the wear as significant. If they continue to wear at this rate I think I can easily get 500 miles out of them the tread. Its primarily under the ball of my foot. My friend has the same shoes and his heels are destroyed, but he also has some** bad** form.
Trying to upload the image, having issues. I will have to do it from my PC when I get home. The wear on mine is on the heel. I’ve worn away the tread and am into the foam. The wear on all my shoes is similar, but this has been at an alarming rate. I have never worn through the tread in 65 miles before.
This is a picture of my heels on my Clifton 1s after 200ish miles. I actually took it to make fun of my friend 😅
I train with Clifton 2 and yes they have a problem. They made some improvements over the years, but here’s the deal. If you make the sole stronger, they get heavy. If you keep the shoes light, they wear out fast. I have 1, 2, 3 and 5. 2 and 3 are almost same and color/print is slightly different on the shoes. 4 had bad reviews, so I skipped and got 5. 5 feels heavy and has less cushion, so I prefer 2. I don’t like 1 because shoe tongue is so thin, so it’s not easy to put them on properly. I don’t know your weight or running form, but most likely, Clifton is not for you. Try Clayton. Soles on Clayton are stronger than Clifton, but with less cushion.
Claytons aren’t in production any longer and they had the Rmat outsoles I believe. It may be worth checking out your form and trying to slowly work on that if you are going through the heels of your shoes at an excessive rate like that.
I’m no expert though. Just n=1.
My N+1—my Clifton 1s don’t look that much different at 200 except that I’ve got some wear on the outside of the heel, I supinate a bit and the Cliftons seem to exacerbate that. My NB Fresh Foams have considerably more even wear over the whole sole.
Clifton 2 is my favorite all time shoe. Over a thousand miles on them. I have a few pairs of Hokas with triple digits. I really liked the wide toe box of Altras but I had a couple of pairs tear on the outside after less than 200 miles. Altra replaced them but it just happened on the repalcement pair as well.
Here, finally, is a picture of my left shoe. As I said, only 65 miles. I do tend to wear down the left heel on shoes, but never at a rate like this.
I do this too. You have some instability in your gait and so you’re left foot is pointing out a bit when you combines with being a heel striker.
This is a picture of my heels on my Clifton 1s after 200ish miles. I actually took it to make fun of my friend 😅
Wow. I DESTROYED my cliftons in <150 miles. I’m talking wore through the soles into the foam.
Of course, since that happens to me with most shoes I assume it’s due to sh*t run form.
Seeing your shoies compared to mine its no wonder I have so many knee problems.
mine don’t look like that even after 350 miles!
These are my last pair after 600-650 miles (maybe half on treadmill)
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Here, finally, is a picture of my left shoe. As I said, only 65 miles. I do tend to wear down the left heel on shoes, but never at a rate like this.
As others have said, if that is a consistent pattern (regardless of rate) then have you had someone look at how you run? No idea what your background is but staying injury free should be everyone’s 1st priority assuming we want a long running career. If a professional can figure out where the imbalance is and you can get stronger/more flexible/more balanced over time then that might avoid problems down the line.
Obviously 65 miles is a very small distance to show significant wear. Reviewers seem obsessed by weight but I’d like to see durable shoes designed for training with a long lasting foam and a thick sole of black rubber. Then keep the light stuff for faster training and races. I’ve got some Hoka Conquest that used Rmat for the midsole and they have lasted a very long time. Maybe they last too long and it’s not great business for them?
I was going to suggest a dab of something like shoe goo on that spot, maybe that significantly extends their life span? On Hokas I own I’m actually fairly impressed by how that added material wears down without peeling. But that is after a lot more than 65 miles.
I know Milestone (now sadly nearing end of development as an outdoor pod) had estimates for shoe life for various models. Maybe a crowd sourced equivalent might highlight shoe durability and encourage better manufacturers to make more durable shoes?