W400 Free Finals (McIntosh, Titmus, Ledecky, Fairweather etc)

Looks like Summer qualified 4th for 400 free finals

https://www.cbc.ca/sports/olympics/summer/aquatics/swimming/olympic-swimming-mcintosh-mac-neil-july27-paris-1.7277569

In Saturday’s heat, McIntosh finished 1-10th of a second behind winner Erika Fairweather of New Zealand.
American Katie Ledecky (4:02.19) took the third and final heat over Australian rival and world record holder Ariarne Titmus (4:02.46).

Finals later today. This should be amazing

Looks like Summer qualified 4th for 400 free finals

https://www.cbc.ca/sports/olympics/summer/aquatics/swimming/olympic-swimming-mcintosh-mac-neil-july27-paris-1.7277569

In Saturday’s heat, McIntosh finished 1-10th of a second behind winner Erika Fairweather of New Zealand.
American Katie Ledecky (4:02.19) took the third and final heat over Australian rival and world record holder Ariarne Titmus (4:02.46).

Finals later today. This should be amazing

I predict Titmus wins in sub 3:55.

Looks like Summer qualified 4th for 400 free finals

https://www.cbc.ca/...ly27-paris-1.7277569

In Saturday’s heat, McIntosh finished 1-10th of a second behind winner Erika Fairweather of New Zealand.
American Katie Ledecky (4:02.19) took the third and final heat over Australian rival and world record holder Ariarne Titmus (4:02.46).

Finals later today. This should be amazing

I predict Titmus wins in sub 3:55.

I agree, Ariarne in 3:54.5-ish for a new WR. (Current WR is 3:55.38 by Ariarne.)

I’m not sure the WR goes down as this pool appears (at least for now), not that fast.

I got money on Titmus to win.

I agree that I think this pool is really slow and we wont see many if any WR’s this time around. The qualifying times just seem really slow to me in both the mens and womens, and keep in mind the 400 is one and done. So folks were drilling it like a final, except for perhaps Titmus and Summer. Ledecky seemed intent on winning the heat and looked to be going hard, all for a 4;02+??

pool depth is 20 cm less than max depth?

It’s .85 m shallower than the recommended (2.15 vs 3 m). Minimum is 2 m. Tokyo was 3 m.

Why would they do that? You would think you’d want to create as fast a pool as possible to drive eyeballs.

Likely someone was put in charge that doesn’t understand the hydrodynamics of pool design or the effect it can have on a major swimming competition. Or someone just trying to cut costs.

Maybe save heating costs after Olymics is over is over. 0.85/3.00 = 28% less overall costs to heat the water.

400 free womens finals at 14:52 EDT

You do know that the olympic pools are temporary?? Thus no heating costs, which is a ridiculous assumption. They paid over a billion Euros to clean the river(which seems to have fallen short) you think a couple bucks for heating would be a thing??

You do know that the olympic pools are temporary?? Thus no heating costs, which is a ridiculous assumption. They paid over a billion Euros to clean the river(which seems to have fallen short) you think a couple bucks for heating would be a thing??

Where did you get Olympic Pools being temporary? Minimally, I have used Munich, Montreal, Seoul, Bejing, Barcelona, London all up and running so I know they exist and so does Tokyo. From what I know this pool will be a permanent facility after the games. Having said, that , I don’t know which budget Seine cleaning and which budget pool building and subsequent pool operations come from. Pool heating cost IS a big cost in Europe (energy is expensive relative to North America).

1.5 hrs to go for the big event!

You do know that the olympic pools are temporary?? Thus no heating costs, which is a ridiculous assumption. They paid over a billion Euros to clean the river(which seems to have fallen short) you think a couple bucks for heating would be a thing??

Never underestimate the ability of an MBA to focus on what they can measure vs. what they can’t… ;-))

The swimming will be held in a temporary pool at La Défense Arena, an indoor stadium that is home of the storied Racing 92 rugby team and has been the venue for major concert tours such as The Rolling Stones, Taylor Swift and Paul McCartney.22 hours ago

Sorry Dev…😥

ps I/m registered in Montreal you going??

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OK this is what I read on the Olympics.org website. Regardless, it does not matter, it is a “less deep pool”:

https://olympics.com/en/news/the-aquatics-centre-at-the-paris-2024-olympics-an-example-of-eco-designed-infrastructure-and-thought-to-ensure-a-lasting-legacy

DESIGNED FOR THE PARIS 2024 OLYMPIC GAMES, AND AFTER?
One of the most important aspects of the project was to ensure that the infrastructure could be reused by the general public. After the Games, the pools will be redeveloped to make up for the lack of sports facilities in the Seine-Saint-Denis department (one child out of two enters secondary school without knowing how to swim).

From July 2025, the grandstands will be halved (from 5,000 to 2,500 seats), and the pools will be reduced to two – one of 50 metres and the other of 25 metres – allowing the installation of a fitness area, a climbing gym, a five-a-side football pitch, a restaurant and a sports recycling centre.
The multi-purpose space, designed for families, schools and sports clubs, will also be used by the French Swimming Federation, which will use it as a high-level federal training centre so that its best athletes can benefit from this facility. It will also be used in the coming years as a venue for sporting competitions – including the European Swimming Championships in 2026. The diving boards, meanwhile, will remain to house the French diving centre.

https://olympics.com/en/paris-2024/venues/paris-la-defense-arena

Apparently, like many arenas it is a multi use building, which like the old saying that starts “jack of all …“then ends”…master of none”.
This too will please no one.

Think Skydome with flair!

That was quite the race. All times in M400 and W400 were a fair bit slower than world record pace. I think Titmus and Summer was right around 1:56 at 200m (I was just eyeballing it)

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A. TITMUS
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S. McINTOSH
3:58.37
0.88
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K. LEDECKY
4:00.86
3.37
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E. FAIRWEATHER
4:01.12
3.63
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I. GOSE
4:02.14
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P. MADDEN
4:02.26
4.77
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M.F. COSTA
4:03.53
6.04
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J. PERKINS
4:04.96
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If it was a 450m race Summer would have caught her!!!..😥
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The cost to heat a pool is based on area not volume as all heat lost must go through the walls and the air (water surface). While the volume difference of the pools would be about 39% the area difference is only the .85m * (225+250), which is about 4.5%. The actual costs are probably less because the largest drain is almost certainly the water surface exposed to the air. Good chance that is more than half of the actual losses. If I had to guess I think the cost difference to maintain heat in the pool would be under 2%.

If it was a 450m race Summer would have caught her!!!..😥

Add 30 second to the times (for your 50m) and you have Summer’s 400IM range
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