And name names, too!
If you (his rightousness D.S.M. Empfield or anyone else) want to get a good idea of your eating habits or just a place to log everything, including goals and training try
Nice and free for the basic stuff. A bit cumbersome to use until you build-up a head of steam with your custom foods list and recent foods list but it has enough accuracy for most of our needs. Also, it does a lot of the math and is particularly useful for tracking trends - I found out exactly which foods at which times of day just explode my diet.
Good luck Dan - My goal is is 132-135 down from a slightly stocky 145 for a 1/2 IM in June.
For this I’m doing two week periods of roughly 600-800 calorie deficit days during easy weeks and then just trying to keep it even during harder weeks.
And for your goal - a lot of weight in short time, you may consider really going to extremes over an even shorter time. Like a sub 1000 calorie day of almost exclusively protein, calcium and Vitamin E on a day with a good solid coupla hours at Zone 1. This is how some amatuer Freestyle and Collegiate Wrestling Buddies of mine drop preseason poundage in a hurry without going in to serious conservation mode. One guy in particular wrestled at 175 and could get down there from 190 in a serious hurry, even with proper hydration.
You might even have some epic hallucination with this method - could be fun.
T
“And that dinner, yeah, it was more than 1000.”
the calories for soy enchiladas were right off the package. lean meat = 90 calories per ounce. so, 860 + minor amount of peppers/corn. right at 1000 at worst. 1 glass dry red wine = 90 calories. so, between 1000 and 1100.
you’re just a jealous naysayer. probably you should do this diet with me.
“I’m sure it has occurred to you that this idea is wrong on so many levels, right?”
i have come to the realization that nobody really knows shit about this process. so, i have decided two things:
- keep it under 2000 calories, all things equal, except:
- that doesn’t count calories taken during any longer bike rides, which are needed in order to spur fat metabolism.
so, i’ve got a couple of different mixtures coming from infinit nutrition. i bummed some off of bjorn when he was here, who bummed it off of gordo, who bummed it off of molina. or molina bummed it from gordo. i forget. in any case, i’ve got to formulae coming.
so, i don’t think i’ll be burning my muscles, or liver, or anything, but at some point you just need to declare war on your fat body and look at it largely as calories in / calories out. otherwise, you’re going to end up calling and ordering cortislim out of desperation, at which point, shit, you might as well just indiscriminently buy viagra and norton firewall from spammers.
I’m doing the diet with you Dan. Here goes my day…
Weight 142.6 26% body fat (hopefully not true, I bought the cheap scale)
Breakfast- 1 serving of oatmeal with 3/4 of a banana.
2 scoops of whey protein in a shake.
Snack-one piece of birthday cake. oops.
Lunch-Bagel sandwich with turkey breast.
Snack-Energy bar, 9g fat, 9 carbs, 14 protein.
Dinner-1 Chicken breast, one cup of cooked rice, two
slices of fat free cheese.
Snack-one thin mint…
Weigh-in tomorrow a.m.
Dude, just eat lean protein, fruits and veggies. TWO BAGELS??? Only one bagel and only on days where you run at least 90 minutes. Eat every few hours and include some protein.
And, didn’t you do this a few years ago??? 
Love ya.
Dude I am with you… 6’2" 183 at 5% fat and big calves!! I wish that I could shave 15 pounds off of my legs so that I can run like Peter Reid. Those 150 pounders can run my ass off on a recovery run!!!
OK, I am in. I just weighed myself and the last few days have been absolute pig-outs so I am starting at a slightly bloated 184lbs.
I usually can coast along at 178, my lowest, early a.m. just used the head weight was 168 around my half Iron man last year. I am 6’1" so I think that 170 would be extreme but all the goals seem to be there today.
Today I had:
Breakfast: Powerbar Harvest Bar (240cal), sm portion scrambled eggs, bacon 3 strips, sm portion diced roasted potatoes, 2 pancakes w syrup and butter (can you tell I was at a hotel with a buffet?) glass of OJ, coffee.
Morning snack: Butterfinger Crisp Bar 240 cal Arrowhead water.
Lunch: Chicken Breast Pesto sandwich with melted cheese, fries and a big pickle w water to drink.
Afternoon snack: Powerbar Performance bar, Glass of chardonay on train from San Diego to Los Angeles along with their snack service of tortilla chips and salsa, seaseme crackers and cheese spread, two butter cookies, dried fruit, 1 mento.
Dinner At Union Station Traxx: Waldorf Salad and Carrot soup with a glass of Cambria Chardonay 3 slices of olive bread with butter.
Got home and had a bowl of Ice cream cookies and cream.
Can you see why I am bloated? I am so in on this.
Perfect timing. It seems that over the years (6 or more on this forum?) we have had similar weight and training ups and downs. I am 175 right now with a goal of 162 or so. Finally getting back to some more regular training after working too hard for the past few years (I defend my Ph.D. dissertation in May), and I’ll try to follow you on your epic diet.
I’m in, I have been on a diet but still have 12 lbs to go. Want to get to 150 right now and 145 for a 1/2 beginning of august.
Tues april 12 breakfast: 2medium eggs scrampled with 2 corn tortillas, green pepper, jalepeno, onion, and tomato.
you’re just a jealous naysayer. probably you should do this diet with me.
Ok yer on beeatch. All irony aside, about a week ago I started writing down everything I ate. Aside from being OCD, I wanted to see what I was ingesting. The calorie intake was not what I expected (it was much higher), nor was the content of the food very good. My unstated goal was to drop below 150lbs. It was not much of a goal as I weighted about 153 last week and already met my goal However, I will go lower - for you sweetie.
Oh, and if you are reading this missive with your two bagels again this morning, skip the second one chubby.
P.S. Your minimum caloric intake should be about 2300, not less than 2000.
“And, didn’t you do this a few years ago??? ;-)”
oh, probably. i just have to lessen the lock food has on my life. but i can’t ease my way out of this. i just have to go cold turkey.
did you get rid of all the candy bars you have at Xantusia??
Slowman,
15 pounds in 3 weeks, huh? I think you can do it. However, I don’t think you can keep the weight off.
Here’s my challenge to you: whatever you weigh on May 1st, I bet you weigh at least 5 lbs more on May 31st. If you manage to keep the weight off, I will give you a free pair of running shoes of your choice (from any of my vendors). If you don’t, I get a banner ad on Slowtwitch for one month.
Think you can handle it?
Lee Silverman
JackRabbit Sports
Park Slope, Brooklyn
Slowman - have you considered using the weight watchers point system vs counting calories?
Points take into account fat and fiber along with calories. I find it easier to keep track of points vs calories.
I’m in the same boat - I need to drop 10 lbs for Memphis in May.
You don’t need to join WW - you can download the a point tracking spreadsheet here: http://www.rjrudy.org/cgi-bin/file/download.pl?file=flex_spreadsheet.zip
“have you considered using the weight watchers point system vs counting calories?”
no, i just thought i’d read the package of the thing i’m eating.
I just got up, used the restroom, and weighed myself. 154lbs.
I’m off to eat.
OK, well I need to loose the same amount of weight so I’m in. Damn you though because I was going to have a Margarita Day this Sunday! I know that you mentioned this in your post, but I definitely think it would be good to post what activity you are doing along with what you are eating. I’ll do the same. Good luck!
i just have to lessen the lock food has on my life…
Hmmm, that sounds a bit sad. I tend to try to look at food like I look at many things around us: most of it is somewhere on the scale poor-lousy-junk-trash. It is not that hard (but more $$ and more work) to surround myself with better quality, better tasting foods. How can I settle for a candy bar when I can have fresh or dry fruits and nuts. Of course there is also wine/beer and 85% chocolate and smoked meats/fish and even butter… in that improved category: why not?
After a few months of this I have to be paid to swallow a cinnabon or a burger… I may not be leaner but food will be my friend 
– hopefully not too much so.
brkfast: 2 x glass oj & 3 x slice home baked wheat++ & 1 cup 0% yo + berries.
lunch: home smoked ham & yams & broccoli
snacks: peanuts & 5 apples & 2 oranges & 5 choc cats from joe’s + more peanuts
dinner: sth? BBQ’ed/smoked last WE & wine &…
15 lbs @ 3500 cal / lb = 52,500 calories deficit required
52,500 calories / 19 days = 2763 cal/day deficit required
Assuming your basal metabolic rate is about 2000 cal and you are eating 2000 cal / day you need to burn 2763 cal/day working out.
2763 cal/day / 600 cal/hr = 4.6 hr / day working out
To lose that about of weight in April you will need to workout 4 1/2 hours per day on average (or dehydrate yourself and lose the weight in water).
That’s pretty aggressive, even for a triathlete.