Last weekend at Xantusia I saw a mostly eaten bag of Famous Amos cookies, some chocolate easter eggs (little ones), and remnants of what appeared to be chocolate chip muffins…but they could have been bran.
No candy bar evidence though.
“To lose that about of weight in April you will need to workout 4 1/2 hours per day on average”
i think your analysis is probably about right, with the following thing left out. nobody ever seems to count the increase in metabolic rate during recovery.
i rather expect to burn closer to 3000 calories a day while sedentary IF, and ONLY if, i produce enough work to require the necessary recovery. and, this would be off more like 750kcal/hr at the rate i train. so, for me, i reckon 3.5hr fo work, 6 days/wk ought to do it.
i doubt i’ll be putting in this amount of workout time, as i’m fairly untrained right now. but, we’ll see how it goes. i’m 1.5hr to the good so far today.
Check this out, Dan. Its from Anne’s cakes, its her famous Coconut Cream Cheesecake. It doesn’t probably melt in your mouth, it WILL melt in your mouth. The pie is served a tad warm so one of the many thin layers of chocolate, in this case, probably the white Belgian chocolate layer, melts in your mouth. And yet despite the hidden treasures of chocolate layers, the pie has a tangy, lemon like zest to balance out the coconut sprinkles. The outer rim of this delectable pie tastes more like a light French Souffle, which has a hint of a mild, dark Bourbon flavor. All of the ingredients melt and mold together into a sugary, delicious, heavenly Coconut cream, perfect for the dieting triathlete.
Sounds to me like you need to break out either the bad fish diet or the altitude sickness diet.
And I’m in the same boat but will not be posting about the Cheetos and Diet Coke I have for breakfast. But you have inspired me to take on my bloated ass except I’m giving myself to the end of May since that is when the race season really takes off around here.
Im 225lbs, I need to at least get down to 210, 200 would be great. I usually fluctuate from 210 (summer) to 215 (winter). This winter I gained too much weight. Im going to try fruits and veggies.
“Sounds to me like you need to break out either the bad fish diet or the altitude sickness diet.”
you remember this? once i did a cycling trip from mexico city to oaxaca. right around cuautla i either got altitude sick (i’d been riding up around 11,000’ earlier in the day) or i ate a very bad something.
either way, i spent the most horrible night of my life. the next day i was weeeeeak, but i HAD to stay on some sort of schedule, so i suffered thru 40 miles. each day got better.
by the time i’d finished 7 days of riding i was 10 pounds lighter, fit as a fiddle, and ready to race. (i’d been hauling panniers around, up and down lots of mountains, during the ride).
in this case, i’d done it all in a week. but, i basically don’t want to replicate the sickness part, tho this did get me halfway to the goal, i reckon. same basic thing happened to me on a colorado trip, same basic result.
hopefully not true, I bought the cheap scale
If it helps, if you are talking about the tanita body fat scales and the like, they are laughably and hugely inaccurate!!! Those scales are worthless for accurate body fat assessments for way too many reasons to list here. Just use the total wt. portion of the scale and ignore the “bodyfat” numbers.
I think that I need to get in on this. I’m currently around 185 (up 16 lbs since Kona last October … crap!) and after a winter with a 6 week break from running due to an injured calf I ran a 10k on Sunday after 3 and a half weeks of running. I ran 36:40 which is the slowest I’ve run 10k since I was 14 years old. Seems like some heavy training and crash dieting might be in order 
Man, guilt is setting in reading all of this. Or, I could just take down all of the mirrors in the house.
Okay, I’m in.
Breakfast: 1 slice whole-wheat bread before swim; 1 peanut butter Clif Bar after
Lunch: 1 turkey sandwich on french bread; 1/2 c. potato salad; 1 bag kettle chips; 1 slice chocolate cake (business lunch - ugh!)
Dinner: 1.5 c. Menestra (Spanish vegetable stew); 2 slices french bread; 1 piece string cheese; 1 c. fruit
Workouts: 45 min. swim in AM; 45 min. spin class in PM (got to class late from work)
What’s with this “work” thing messing everything up??!
CLM?
Reads familiar; from Tri-dead forums of past? Not sure if you remember jane, Eric, et al?
- Keep on preachin’ the good word!
That’s me! Of course I remember Jane, and Eric (both of them). 
I’m in. I weighed in this morning at 134 and should be around 125. I’ll go for the more realistic 129, though, for the time allotted. I don’t want to talk about what I ate yesterday. So far, nothing today except some coffee.
Update:
Tuesday: Bagel with Country Crock (285); chicken quesadiilla (my own recipe: chicken corn, green peppers, green onions, black beans, mild chedder, pepper jack) (I have no idea how many calories, but it was really yummy and cheesey, so I’ll say probably about 600); rice crispie treat (90); small package of Pringles; banana; 5 pieces of Dominos pizza (medium) with italian sausage and green peppers. Workouts: 4 mile run; 90 minutes on trainer
Fine, I’m in. I’m not happy about this, but I’m in. Yesterday I read this thread and told myself that I’m too fat to be in this thing, what with all you people having to lose 5 or 10 or 15 pounds. I hate you all.
So, I’ll be the fat guy, at 232 pounds last Monday. I was having a great eating week until I had a mess of chinese food last night. So, I feel impelled to get in this thing.
So, while you guys and gals – i.e., the “cool kids” of this thread – are losing your 5 pounds or so each, I’ll be the fat kid in the corner, the chess/band/math geek.
Please don’t throw food at me.
I spent the first of the calendar year training for a marathon. Before abandoning it due to injury, I progressed up to 20-milers without losing an ounce in spite of higher mileage. It appeared I would have to race and carry 10 pounds more than usual. Within 2 weeks after ending the training, I lost 5 pounds. 30 days later and in very light exercise it is still gone. The most significant dietary change has been the absence of post-training recovery drinks, along with the carbs on the runs.
What’s going on here? At 51 years of age, do I have to re-think sports nutrition?
Good to see the support you guys are giving each other. I personally got into triathlon after deciding to tackle my weight problem. I was 5’7" and 172 lbs. Weight watchers did the trick, personal supportive environment but I soon grew out of it because I could not train and eat 28 points a day! I’m now a steady 145 for the past two years and acheived lifetime status at weight watchers. I still stop in now and then to add support for others who are stuggling and hear the stories to remind myself it’s a daily challenge. Don’t kill yourself. The first few weeks are the hardest. If you fall off the wagon, dust yourself off and hop back on. I hear it’s like quitting smoking. Most people try several times before they are successful. See if you can find a place to test your basal metabolic rate. It will tell you the calories you need to just sit on your ass at your desk and then adjust it up each day to reflect your exercise regime for that day.
Good luck, Karma
Well…I’m afraid I need to get in on this as well. Curently 173…fighting trim is 163. Training has been hampered by work and bum knee…and the college I work at has an amazing pastry chef program. I tend to rely on less starch, lower glycemic index, less breads and pile on the greens when I need to lose weight.
Hey Slowman,
All I have to say is: you’re doing it about as right as you can. Everytime I get into a discussion with someone on how to lose weight, I say, “simple answer: eat less (in most cases a lot less), follow the four food groups, and exercise more”
Good Luck, this might actually inspire me to do the same thing
Mark
I’m in with ya! I’ll be your bigGER brother, fellow geek and all that other stuff. I used to run, race, do the tri-thing last century. This century, I decided to get my _hit together, lose the ‘cask’ (I was a fighting 272). I’m down to 234, with goal of 198# by 8/05.
So… you push me. I will push YOU harder. I drive a Dura Ace 10, Kestrel Talon SL with XLAB wheels, complete carbon set-up maintained by B&L and Nytro (yea, they’re both good to me). I don’t do the red meat thing, I do chicken and fish, bottled water and don’t have a real plan to lop off the cask. I just ride, run, walk a lot. I can sprint a hill by mashing gears (read: no technique), but I can still pull down a 90+ cadence with some of the local bike clubs on Saturday mornings. This is getting me to the 12-pack.
In 45d, we’ll be at the 6pack - beating the ‘guys and gals’ at their own chess game.
Deal?
- mike
if you want to cut a few pounds…say 15…try cutting down on the starchy stuff for a couple months. keep your calories the same, because if you lower the cals you will slow the metabolism. Replace the starch with fruits and raw veggies, and add 1500 to 2000 mg of top grade fish oil…this will keep your energy up later in the day…especially when training hard or long runs. trash the canola…use more olive oil.