“Qualification: Top 18 in each age group rolling down to 25th place after applying the age-up rule. Athletes must be present at the awards ceremony to accept their slot. Failure to accept your slot at the ceremony will result in a forfeiture of your slot.”
So there’s 18 slots. So what happens to the forfeited slots? Do they keep offering slots to finishers until they find 18 “takers”, assuming those takers don’t age out of the group? Say, for example, the first 15 finishers all say “nope, I’m not interested in going to Worlds”. Does that mean that age group finisher #30, hanging around the podium celebration, drinking his 3rd beer, and with his arm around some new-met doxie, is suddenly, to his great surprise, offered a slot at Worlds?
Asking for a friend. No, that’s not right. I’m asking for me. The doxie business was just “color”. Nothing brings out the fidelity in a guy like marrying a lawyer.
Top 18 auto qualify. If they don’t pay on site, slots will officially roll down to 25. Then, when there are not 18 total people willing to drop the insane amount of money to do the race, they will continue to roll down past 25th I reckon.
My understanding is that they offer the first 18 their spots at the awards ceremony. The age-up shuffle can make significant changes in who gets in and who doesn’t among those finishing after 12 place or so. If you finished 23rd, you will need to wait a few days or few weeks until they find out how many spots were not taken. You probably will get a spot since there is a good, good chance that a number of people will say, “Nope.” If you finished outside of the top 26th, you cannot be selected.
My understanding is that they offer the first 18 their spots at the awards ceremony. The age-up shuffle can make significant changes in who gets in and who doesn’t among those finishing after 12 place or so. If you finished 23rd, you will need to wait a few days or few weeks until they find out how many spots were not taken. You probably will get a spot since there is a good, good chance that a number of people will say, “Nope.” If you finished outside of the top 26th, you cannot be selected.
I believe that this is correct; I asked and received an email from the team USA coordinator confirming this, because I was very interested in competing in Rotterdam, but not good enough to finish in the top 25 in my age group.
That one is interesting, when I qualified it was 10 from the DL qualifier and 8 from Nationals. If the 10 don’t take their spot then it rolls back to Nationals. What is unclear is if one of the 10 from the DL qualifier already has a spot from Nationals (which is held earlier in the season) do they go to number 11?
Top 18 auto qualify. If they don’t pay on site, slots will officially roll down to 25. Then, when there are not 18 total people willing to drop the insane amount of money to do the race, they will continue to roll down past 25th I reckon.
Top 18 auto qualify. If they don’t pay on site, slots will officially roll down to 25. Then, when there are not 18 total people willing to drop the insane amount of money to do the race, they will continue to roll down past 25th I reckon.
Do you have a ballpark figure as to what the insane amount of money would be to do the race?
Top 18 auto qualify. If they don’t pay on site, slots will officially roll down to 25. Then, when there are not 18 total people willing to drop the insane amount of money to do the race, they will continue to roll down past 25th I reckon.
Do you have a ballpark figure as to what the insane amount of money would be to do the race?
How much of this has to be paid on site?
Generally is 50 bucks to hold the spot.
Race fees are the cheap part. The traveling is what is expensive. My 12 days in Penticton in August is, well, expensive.
Top 18 auto qualify. If they don’t pay on site, slots will officially roll down to 25. Then, when there are not 18 total people willing to drop the insane amount of money to do the race, they will continue to roll down past 25th I reckon.
Do you have a ballpark figure as to what the insane amount of money would be to do the race?
How much of this has to be paid on site?
You pay $50(some kind of admin fee) to hold your spot then wait a few months until they roll out race entry fees, uniform cost and parade uniform fees. These will run you in the $800-$1K total range in my experience. It’s super jacked for a Sprint or Oly but the experience is pretty awesome. Enjoy meeting, chatting with and racing with folks from around the world. I digress, the rest are travel costs.
I don’t think they roll past 25th.
Rotterdam looks thin… I checked my AG and it looks like single digits for both Sprint and Oly last time I checked. I qualified for both but generally only do the Oly and this time around you had to choose one since the races are on the same day.
When I realized that 2018 Worlds was going to be in Australia my first reaction was, “No way I could afford that, maybe they’ll get closer.”, but then I looked up the cost to fly to Switzerland (location of 2019 Worlds) and found that it wasn’t much cheaper. The key variable seems to be getting a good deal by carefully choosing what days to fly and trying to buy the tickets while prices are low (6 months out? I dunno). But the key variable was not “Switzerland is a lot closer therefore a lot cheaper”.
Yes, the cost would run up credit card debt, but big adventures are important.
If you ship your bike, you don’t have to fly right into Switzerland. I’m sure flying Paris or London, then taking a cheaper regional flight or train over to Switzerland would be more cost effective.
To stay kinda on topic, the whole qualification cycle is 2 years, correct? So I would qualify this year for Nationals in 2018. Then at Nationals I would qualify for Worlds in 2019?
That’s correct. This year qualifies for Australia. I was down there the last time and it was a great experience. If I had time to train for Tris right now I’d definitely go for it again.
Waterboy will have some comment about the water temps and the aquathon but it was awesome they did a great job overall.
To stay kinda on topic, the whole qualification cycle is 2 years, correct? So I would qualify this year for Nationals in 2018. Then at Nationals I would qualify for Worlds in 2019?
You can still qualify for nationals this year (2017) up to a certain point (mid July maybe). Then 2017 nationals would qualify you for 2018 worlds.
Sadly, logistically it just wouldn’t work out. Plus it looks like I’ve got to put in some work to qualify for worlds. I don’t see the point in going to nationals if you don’t have the intention of going to worlds.
If you ship your bike, you don’t have to fly right into Switzerland. I’m sure flying Paris or London, then taking a cheaper regional flight or train over to Switzerland would be more cost effective.
To stay kinda on topic, the whole qualification cycle is 2 years, correct? So I would qualify this year for Nationals in 2018. Then at Nationals I would qualify for Worlds in 2019?
I guess if you look at it that was, qualify for nationals, 1 year, then worlds off that nationals, 2 years, then yep.
Nationals is always qualifying for TeamUSA the next year.
then I looked up the cost to fly to Switzerland (location of 2019 Worlds) and found that it wasn’t much cheaper.
Yes, the cost would run up credit card debt, but big adventures are important.
for Lausanne 2006, I flew into Frankfurt, rented a car and drove down - that was about half the price of flying into Zurich. Drive about 5-6 hours IIRC, at first on autobahn so reasonably low-stress, then the Swiss driving was in such scenery I scarcely noticed the drive.
Camped at http://www.campinglausannevidy.ch/en/
for about $20/night…
A 2km walk to the race site on bike paths, or could drive and pay parking fees, I just walked.
“big adventures are important” totally agree…
The good thing is not many US athletes think much of going to Switzerland to race, so qualifying may be easier than some years. Top 25 is necessary though.
If you think that’s complicated, look at sprint distance qualifications. Talk about a puzzle.
Yeah, Sprint is very complicated. If you’re not top 6 at Oklahoma, but your time is within 130% of the top finisher in your adjusted age bracket, you could get an email offering you a slot at Worlds some evening months later when you’re at a bar, 3 beers to the wind, arm around some new-met doxie, having almost forgotten you used to be a triathlete. Even if you finished lower than 25th.
How many “at large” spots are offered to the August NDL Sprint Championship finishers below 6th hinges on how many at large spots are awarded at the October DL Qualifier, and that number hinges on the spread from first to 18th in the age bracket at the previous year’s NDL Championship race. And THEN there are roll-downs. You following?