Tyler's suspension compared to Palmeiro's in Sp-Ill:

Frank DeFord’s column this week:

Crime and (sort of) punishment Baseball could learn a lot from cyclist Tyler Hamilton Posted: Thursday August 11, 2005 2:49PM; Updated: Friday August 12, 2005 12:58AM http://i.a.cnn.net/si/.element/img/2.0/story/clickability/email_alerts.gif http://i.a.cnn.net/si/.element/img/2.0/story/clickability/email_this.gif http://i.a.cnn.net/si/.element/img/2.0/story/clickability/print_this.gif http://i.a.cnn.net/si/.element/img/2.0/story/clickability/save_this.gif http://i.a.cnn.net/si/.element/img/2.0/story/clickability/most_popular.gif http://i.cnn.net/si/images/1.gif http://i.a.cnn.net/si/2005/writers/frank_deford/08/11/doping/t1_hamilton.jpg Unlike how baseball has treated Rafael Palmeiro, cycling has forced Tyler Hamilton to sit while he appeals his suspension. Alexander Hassenstein/Bongarts/Getty Images http://i.cnn.net/si/images/1.gif http://i.a.cnn.net/si/.element/img/2.0/misc/cl/advlinks1.gif http://i.a.cnn.net/si/.element/img/2.0/misc/cl/whatsthis.gif Xavix BaseballGet off the couch and into your games. XaviX system technology senses your movements,… www.xavix.com http://i.cnn.net/cnn/images/1.gif Baseball DVDGet a free coaching DVD from the hitting expert for the Oakland A’s. Take control of… www.hitting.com http://i.cnn.net/cnn/images/1.gif Baseball Gear at The Batter’s BoxGet both feet in The Batter’s Box. Dig in for a full line of DeMarini, Worth, Wilson,… www.aluminumbats.com http://i.cnn.net/cnn/images/1.gif Save Money on Diamondbacks TicketsYou’ll get four Arizona Diamondbacks tickets plus a coupon for a premium product or a… www.mlb.com

Something is terribly out of whack here. Tyler Hamilton, an American cyclist, tested positive for blood doping last year. Even as he appeals, he is in the process of serving a two-year suspension. Rafael Palmeiro tested positive for steroids and endured a suspension of 10 days. The disparity in the penalties is simply ludicrous. Either the Olympic judgment, as meted out by the World Anti-Doping Agency, is too severe … or baseball law is a joke.

To be sure, Palmeiro has been disgraced, and in light of his sworn testimony before Congress, he’s been exposed as a liar as well as a cheat. He also may have lost his chance to be voted into the Hall Of Fame. But justice is not supposed to be about peripheral castigation. Do the crime, do the time. Ten days for an offense of this nature is asinine. Pete Rose was banished from the game for transgressions that were nowhere near as damaging to baseball.

The fact is that the players’ union has its integrity on the line. If it does not go along with Commissioner Bud Selig and dramatically stiffen doping penalties, then it reveals itself not to be a support force for its honest members, but an enabling agency for its culprits.

As a point of passing interest, it’s worth noting that Hamilton, the cyclist, actually has a good case for acquittal. Circumstantially, he looks so guilty he could also be fairly charged with killing Cock Robin. Blood doping means transfusing extra blood or blood products into your body. More red cells, more endurance. And Hamilton came up positive in a new test for blood doping after winning a gold medal at the Olympics last year. Then, only a few weeks later, Hamilton tested positive again at a race in Spain.

But here’s the rub. While the tests clearly showed that Hamilton had two different blood populations in his system, it can’t prove how the second blood got there.

But if not by transfusion, then how?

Well, some esteemed doctors claim that as much as 50 percent – maybe even all – of us are chimeric. That means that we have traces of other blood in our systems that have been there since the womb. This second blood either comes from the mother or from what is known as a “vanishing twin” – that is: a second embryo that was conceived but failed to develop.

If all that sounds like something out of a Stephen King novel – and, indeed, the anti-doping people hoot at it – Hamilton owns serious medical support for his appeal, which comes up in September.

Unfortunately for Palmeiro, he can’t claim that it was his evil vanishing twin who took the steroids. He’s just very lucky that his sentence is only 1.4 percent what Hamilton – or any Olympic athlete – must serve for the same first offense.

Too much of our discussion about baseball’s drug users is devoted to the past. Can we excise the records of those who are so transparently guilty of steroid use? Can we bestow asterisks? Can we undo those things that ought not to have been done? No, we can’t. We can’t re-write history. Get over it.

Instead, what we can do is deal with the present and the future, and the prime thing on that agenda is to force the baseball union to own up to its responsibilities and properly punish the bad guys.

T

Baseball is a joke. It’s a little bit more athletic than golf, and twice as boring.

In a free country, athletes should have the right to use steroids and die young (see Alzado, Lyle; Payton, Walter; Matuzak, John…). On top of that, your johnson shrinks from steroid use. Maybe some of you can afford that, but this white boy is fightin’ with a short stick from the git-go. How stupid would someone have to be to cut their life expectancy in half?

Next comes the whole discussion about whether the unfair advantage of PEDs would force people to use them. Maybe that’s something only the elites need to worry about. Doping in sports makes only slightly more sense than suicide bombing as a career path.

Your saying Walter Payton used steriods? You know this to be fact or are you just throwing his name out there.

From my perspective using steroids et al is silly - the might help me win the 40 + age group at a local tri at best. For someone who grew up in a bad inner city or destitute country and from an early age is told he has say pro football potential? Say he gets to junior year in college and all the coaches and scouts are telling him he now probably wont get drafted because he’s just a touch slow and a touch light. A few pills and bam is round pick guaranteed 20 mil. I’m not saying its right, but its easy to see the temptation.

Styrrell

Sweetness died of cancer. Not heart failure.

Nothing to do with Payton, but various forms of cancers have been linked to steroids, EPO is linked to haert failure.

Styrrell

I’m not 100% sure, but I don’t think Tyler tested positive at the Olympics. That is why he still has his medal. He tested positive a couple times after the olympics. If 50% of us have this condition of blood mixing, then here’s my question. WHy do not 100’s of athletes tested also test positive for this. The only other case was a teammate of Tylers. I’m not saying that it is not possible, but to listen to the doctors defending Tyler, I just have to laugh. They are like the paid experts that testify in court for a living. Just justify what the client needs said. One doctor says one in a million, the other 50%, and it somehow conviently disappears from time to time. I’m sorry, it just doesn’t pass the test of reasonableness in my mind. Maybe Tyler is the one in a million, but with his clowns defending him, he looks guilty as hell.

As for Palmerio, he is a moron, and every interview with him just furthers that image. The10 days is a joke, but he will suffer for the rest of his life on this one. I hope they fry him in congress, and his buddy Bush who blindly defends him. Hard to tell who is the bigger moron here…

Hello Monty,

Tylers initial sample tested positive at the OG, his second sample was frozen and could not be retested so he keeps the medal. When I’ve read the testers side he’s guilty as sin, when I read Tylers side he’s being railroaded. This test is new (not the actual test, but the application). I sincerely hope that the test is correct and their is not politics involved.

Styrrell

Payton died from a rare liver disease. The disease, primary sclerosing cholangitis, afflicts just three in 100,000 people, said Payton’s physician, Dr. Joseph Lagattuta. The cause of the disease, which blocks the bile ducts, is unknown, but isn’t related to alcohol, steroids, hepatitis or immune deficiency, he said.

Thanks for the clarifycation, I just remembered that he still had his medal, so figured it was the later tests that got him. He did get away with one there, but just like Palmerio, he will suffer for this for the rest of his career. And they took two of his best potential years away from him for this, so I do hope it was a valid test. I have to believe it was after all I’ve seen and read…

You beat me to it. I heard that on Wed and was waiting for them to print it on Frank DeFord’s page on SI.com

Nice that someone is taking notice of the disparity in sports.

There are a few differences between Tyler’s and Raffy’s cases that are worth pointing out.

One, Raffy has no way to prove his innocence, unless he has a video of Jose Canseco spiking his protein shake. I’m no hematologist, but it seems logical Tyler could prove chimerism with a bone marrow biopsy.

The other point is that it just doesn’t make sense for Palmeiro to juice at this point when he already has Hall of Fame numbers. The risk/reward ratio is not favorable for him. Tyler on the other hand is in a position to be more hungry for fame and fortune, and his form of cheating is more directly related to performance benefits.

The whole “I have no reason to cheat” thing is bull, for anyone. The 3000/500 thing is his ticket to the hall of fame. Assuming he has a big ego thats reason enough, not to mention money. He never said he was retiring so he’s play for a contract and theirfore millions of $$. Besides people take steroids just to be the best weightlifter in a little poducnk gym.

Styrrell

A couple more observations…

Palmerio didn’t just start juicing, probably been most his career. If he went off the stuff, he would shrivel up and disappear, especially at his age. He probably started taking more to compensate for his age. He went undetected for so many years, he just probably figured he could get away with it. As I said before, he is not the shinest penny in the jar…

If all Tyler needed to do is another test of bone marrow to prove his innocence, then why hasen’t he??? I’ll answer my own question here, because he already has, and it didn’t prove anything. Come on people, if he was truly innocent, and a simple test would prove it, wouldn’t you do it the next day, and avoid all this suspension and humilation??? Test of reasonableness once again…

You may be right, but he can’t have that big of an ego… Would you want to be the Viagra spokesman?

Howdy,

I don’t want to sound like an apologist, but when you read his side he has been tested and found to have some abnormalities. At his first hearing 1 out of 3 judges agreed with him. He now is having his last shot with the CAS. According to him (from articles) his frustration is in getting the authorities to look at his testing and evidence.

Styrrell

I’m as big a Tyler skeptic as the next person but just because I do not understand something does not mean it is not true.

The cultural disregard for science these days is very scary to me. If we all went be the “reasonable test” the world would still be flat.

Every time there is an advance in technology that changes the paradigm, you will always find people saying “that just ain’t right…. It does not pass the test reasonableness …… look you can see the earth is flat, we would fall off if it was round”.

I do not know who is right in this case but when I see the wada dismiss the test out of hand, it disturbs me. I would hope they would have their experts look at the evidence without prejudice.

gb

I’m sure some of the problem that the authorties are having with this, are his quack doctors. The authorties are probably asking the same questions we are, if 50% have it, then why don’t 50% test positive. If a bone marow test would prove conclusive of chrimerism, then where are your results. It just seems that they are making up the defense as they go along, kind of like OJ’s case. Deflect from the real issue with all these other possibilties, and maybe confuse those in charge. It worked for OJ, maybe Tyler is using the same tactic…

I agree with you on all your points. I believe that science has to police itself as it goes along, and it is often flawed. My test of reasonableness was directed at Tylers doctors comments about the 50% of us that have this anomoly, and why half of us are not testing positive for it now…That just smacks of quackery to me, but I actually hope he is innocent, and he is that one in a million. Most great athletes are quite different physicaly than the general population, that is why they rise to the top… His testing procedure definately needss to be scrutinized further…

Where are you getting bone marrow test?..Not trying to flame here, just never heard that one before.

As I understand it, the MIT doctor called Tyler and said hey their test does not sound reasonable based on what we know now of blood. Maybe he is a quack but even one of wada’s scientist who signed off on the test, agrees the basic assumptions of tylers defense. If wada has looked at all the new test and research and tyler is guilty as hell, great. It just looks like they are dismissing it out of hand. My issue is with the process.