Anybody know of a tubeless wheel that has a deep dish aero rim? 40mm is fine. I know you can convert a lot of clincher rims, but am curious what else is out there. Can’t seem to find much…
It’s the tire, not the rim that’s tubeless. With airtight rimstripping, you can make any rim work (see the Stan’s NoTubes site). If the rim starts with no spoke holes drilled in it, it’s ready for tubeless tires from the get-go. Examples would be the HED Trispoke, and the Mad Fiber wheels; as well as most true discs.
I run tubeless dura ace currently and love them. But I was under the impression “2 way fit” wheels have something special on the rim that allows the tubeless tire to fit more securely.
Thanks!
I run tubeless dura ace currently and love them. But I was under the impression “2 way fit” wheels have something special on the rim that allows the tubeless tire to fit more securely.
Thanks!
They do profile the bead slightly differently, but all “non-tubeless” rims work fine as well. I ran tubeless tires on my Mavic Ksyriums for a year with no issues (on my road bike, so plenty of sprints, hard cornering, and fast descents). Finally switched back to Conti4000s tires because (while I liked the tubeless concept) the Hutchinson tires were expensive and not all that durable (wore through them twice as fast as the Contis).
With the advances in rolling resistance for tubeless tires, I was searching the forum for tubeless aero and found this thread… was googling around and found two:
http://www.bicycling.com/bikes-gear/new-bike-gear-previews/corima-aero-tubeless-s
http://blog.velocite-bikes.com/2013/03/velocite-rt50-road-tubeless-carbon-clincher-wheels-part-ii
Any more?
I’m not a big fan of tubeless anyway, but I am an even lesser fan of full carbon tubeless clinchers. As hard as tubeless tires are to mount, do you really want to be torquing the tire onto a carbon rim?
With the advances in rolling resistance for tubeless tires, I was searching the forum for tubeless aero and found this thread… was googling around and found two:
http://www.bicycling.com/...rima-aero-tubeless-s
http://blog.velocite-bikes.com/...ncher-wheels-part-ii
Any more?
What “advances”??
With the advances in rolling resistance for tubeless tires, I was searching the forum for tubeless aero and found this thread… was googling around and found two:
http://www.bicycling.com/...rima-aero-tubeless-s
http://blog.velocite-bikes.com/...ncher-wheels-part-ii
Any more?
What “advances”??
With the advances in rolling resistance for tubeless tires, I was searching the forum for tubeless aero and found this thread… was googling around and found two:
http://www.bicycling.com/...rima-aero-tubeless-s
http://blog.velocite-bikes.com/...ncher-wheels-part-ii
Any more?
What “advances”??
Show me where ANY tubeless road tires show Crr as low as the best clincher tires with latex tubes…
I use fulcrum racing zero 2-way fit for my road bike. I find them beautiful to ride on.
But I think that tubeless deep dished wheels might be difficult to achieve just now.
I may be wrong, but I think there could be an issue getting an air-tight seal around the valve if you used a deep profile rim. Tubeless tyres require an airtight seal at the valve hole. This is achieved by having a stand alone valve that has a rubber collar on it that is pushed through the valve hole (from the tyre side) and then secured into position (using one of those locking nuts that most people dispense with using a normal tube).
If you were using a deep profile, you’d then have to add a valve extender to the equation. I think it could be messy/impossible. I don’t know of any long length tubeless valves on the market.
Additionally, despite liberal use of cafe latex sealant, I find my pressures drop by as much as 40psi between rides (I inflate before every ride). As such, I think I’d be a bit concerned about having to rack a bike for hours before I used it if I were using tubeless.
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Show me where ANY tubeless road tires show Crr as low as the best clincher tires with latex tubes…
The Schwalbe Ultremo ZX tubeless are pretty darn close. Consider ride quality and puncture resistance… I’m willing to bet on tubeless technology in the near future.
Considering the performance of the non tubeless schwalbes in rruffs test, I doubt the tubeless version stacks up that well really.
Irc has a super light tubeless tire out that would be interesting to see data on but I’m not even sure it’s widely available yet.
Show me where ANY tubeless road tires show Crr as low as the best clincher tires with latex tubes…
The Schwalbe Ultremo ZX tubeless are pretty darn close. Consider ride quality and puncture resistance… I’m willing to bet on tubeless technology in the near future.
Like I said…show me the data…
Considering the performance of the non tubeless schwalbes in rruffs test, I doubt the tubeless version stacks up that well really.
Irc has a super light tubeless tire out that would be interesting to see data on but I’m not even sure it’s widely available yet.
I don’t think you can make any assumptions based on the non tubeless schwalbes.
FWIW, Cancellara is using the tubeless Schwalbes.
Considering the performance of the non tubeless schwalbes in rruffs test, I doubt the tubeless version stacks up that well really.
Irc has a super light tubeless tire out that would be interesting to see data on but I’m not even sure it’s widely available yet.
AFM tested a version of that when it was only available in Japan and was called the “Top Secret”…it rolled OK…nothing stellar.
Oh yeah…and they also cost north if $90 a tire…yikes!
maybe
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_O9PLorYPA
LOL. That video is awesome!
You want awesome, I think this one is even more impressive, and by a long shot. Same general topic, carbon composite vs metal:
Good points.
Properly seating the valve is crucial. The valve itself is a single super long valve so there are no valve extenders to worry about.
Regarding pressure drop, during our testing we eventually had none at all, not even the expected leak due to porosity for more than 3 continuous weeks…until the rims were destroyed as part of testing.
This was an excellent result, and we’ll track this over time now that we have more wheels to work with. We are monitoring them to see how repeatable this performance was. The sealant was Caffeelatex, we are now also trialing the Hutchinson sealant.
V.
Considering the performance of the non tubeless schwalbes in rruffs test, I doubt the tubeless version stacks up that well really.
Irc has a super light tubeless tire out that would be interesting to see data on but I’m not even sure it’s widely available yet.
I don’t think you can make any assumptions based on the non tubeless schwalbes.
Well, judging by the fact that it uses the same casing and tread compound as the non-tubeless Ultremo ZX…and also understanding that tubeless tires typically require an additional layer of butyl rubber for air retention…I think it’s safe to say that as a minimum, it will be no faster than the non-tubeless Ultremo ZX with a butyl or latex tube.
Unless you have info and/or data that something is different…
FWIW, Cancellara is using the tubeless Schwalbes.
In the context of this thread, not much. Heck, I can point to pro athletes using Tufos…