Looking for to purchase a tri suit here soon to try and get some marginal aero and comfort gains over a half ironman.
I have a mid September race and I’m not sure if it will be wetsuit legal. If not I thinking about getting a swim skin.
Looking for recommendations on suits and I’ve seen some people roll their sleeves under the swim skin and I’ve seen some that just leave the shoulders on. I know it’s probably tri suit dependent, but looking for recommendations and people’s preferences.
I wear the Desoto lift foil swimskin over my trisuits. Sleeves up.
I guess a better question would be with some of the higher end tri suits do you even need a swim skin? Just worried that mobility in the shoulder will be restricted if you don’t roll it up under a swim skin.
I guess a better question would be with some of the higher end tri suits do you even need a swim skin? Just worried that mobility in the shoulder will be restricted if you don’t roll it up under a swim skin.
The reason for a swim skin is often the fabric is treated to repeal water, not so often with tri suits. Also swim skins will usually be tighter helping you present a narrower profile to the water.
I’ve swam in a sleeved swim skin with a sleeved tri suit a few times and never even thought about it. Of course ymmv on that. If you think it will impede you in any manner get a sleeveless swim skin, wear your sleeved race kit under it normally or if it has a zip maybe leave it anywhere from partially to fully unzipped.
Has anyone tried using the chamois as a buoyancy device? Surely there’s a way to design a chamois that’s good for cycling, non-obtrusive for running, and floaty enough to pull your hips up. Seems like you just could take a regular chamois and make it non-absorbent.
Has anyone tried using the chamois as a buoyancy device? Surely there’s a way to design a chamois that’s good for cycling, non-obtrusive for running, and floaty enough to pull your hips up. Seems like you just could take a regular chamois and make it non-absorbent.
I suspect that would be deemed a “flotation device” and, therefore, a violation of the rules.
Has anyone tried using the chamois as a buoyancy device? Surely there’s a way to design a chamois that’s good for cycling, non-obtrusive for running, and floaty enough to pull your hips up. Seems like you just could take a regular chamois and make it non-absorbent.
I suspect that would be deemed a “flotation device” and, therefore, a violation of the rules.
That’s what the Desoto Liftfoil does.
Super plush chamois and water seems like it would turn into a fair bit of drag or just be super uncomfortable.
I’m thinking about going with a sleeved Zoot tri suit or the Wyn Republic with a sleeveless swim skin.
Should allow me to wear the sleeves as long as it’s not restricting in the shoulders, but I can always roll it down under the swim skin.
Has anyone tried using the chamois as a buoyancy device? Surely there’s a way to design a chamois that’s good for cycling, non-obtrusive for running, and floaty enough to pull your hips up. Seems like you just could take a regular chamois and make it non-absorbent.
I suspect that would be deemed a “flotation device” and, therefore, a violation of the rules.
That’s what the Desoto Liftfoil does.
Come on man. We are all seasoned triathletes here. I really like De Soto products, but no need to sell us on marketing b.s.
And, regardless you are misdescribing their own product.
Liftfoil3™ - This fabric created by Emilio De Soto is extremely technical. It’s manufactured in Italy and is a De Soto exclusive. It is neither available nor sold to other companies. Liftfoil3™ is a FINA approved hydrophobic and compressive fabric. It is hydrophobic because of a very tight Microweave™, so tight it limits absorption of water and/or sweat. Like our previous Liftfoil fabrics, we have incorporated Forza™ Compressor fibers into the Liftfoil3™. It lifts and supports the muscles; reducing and delaying onset muscle fatigue which is often experienced during endurance performance. Liftfoil3™ is knitted with coldBlack® technology. At speeds below 5 mph (8 kph) the best surface to flow though water is a smooth, hydrophobic surface like Liftfoil3™. Liftfoil3™ is designed to be worn very tight. When stretched on a moving body, Liftfoil3™ becomes thinner, so it absorbs less water. Because it compresses against the skin, it reduces passive drag, and acts as a foil to lift the body at the water surface.
You’re describing the suit. Are we not talking about the pad? 🙄
You’re describing the suit. Are we not talking about the pad? 🙄
I’m not describing anything. I’m literally quoting de Soto’s description of “liftfoil†that you refer to above according to the company website. According to de soto, liftfoil is a material that has nothing to do with its pads.
The Liftfoil is the name of the swim skin as well as the technology. The Liftfoil swim skin has a buoyancy pad in it. The OP was asking about swim skins. Someone else mentioned how someone should put a buoyancy pad in one. So when I said that’s what the Desoto Liftfoil does I was referring to the swim skin with the buoyancy pad.
Are you good now or do you need further clarification?
The Liftfoil is the name of the swim skin as well as the technology. The Liftfoil swim skin has a buoyancy pad in it. The OP was asking about swim skins. Someone else mentioned how someone should put a buoyancy pad in one. So when I said that’s what the Desoto Liftfoil does I was referring to the swim skin with the buoyancy pad.
Are you good now or do you need further clarification?
I don’t need any clarification. You should check out the site of your tagline-lots of info about their products that you are misdescribing here. Emilio himself doesn’t even claim the secret buoyancy you are claiming. And, if I’m OP, I’m very hesitant to take advice from someone swearing a swim skin under a trisuit. Jus sayin’. But, you do do.
You’re awful butt hurt for some reason. The pad in the Liftfoil is called a Float Pad. I never said it was magical. Just said that’s what’s in there and perhaps checked the box for the person wondering if it had been done. Why would someone wear a tri suit over their swim skin? If that was a dig at me I’m not following.
Why would someone wear a tri suit over their swim skin? If that was a dig at me I’m not following.
I have no idea but that’s the advice you gave.
Huh?
Edit - obviously I meant over in my first post. 🙄
time out, boys
GMAN - in post #2 you said you wear your trisuit OVER your swimskin. Don’t you wear the swimskin on the outside, in other words, the swimskin over the trisuit?
DFW Tri - I have an older liftfoil suit, with the zipper in front. They used to advertise the floatation of the pad, but it isn’t mentioned on the current web page. If you look up the clasico pad on the desoto website, it does mention that the pad floats. I think the current liftsuit has a pad but I’m not sure. The website mentions that you can run and swim in it.
Of course. Typo on my part.
I also have an older Liftfoil. 2011 or 2012 I think. With that pad you speak of.