Travis Tygart participated in an anti doping conference in Norway today. Here you have his presentation (it is in English;-)
http://bambuser.com/v/4174553
Just fast forward the Norwegian introduction.
If you understand Norwegian you will also have the opportunity to hear how former Norwegian cycling pro start doping in 1998 and later at UP Postal.
Thanks for posting. I don’t have the time right now to watch it but am interested in doing so later tonight.
Here is a write up in English of what Norwegian drug cheat Steffen Kjaergaard talked about, his road from a anti doping stand to doper and cheater.
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/tygart-armstrongs-essentially-shut-the-door-on-usada-cooperation
Tygart used broad strokes to describe the systemic doping that existed in cycling in the 1990s and 2000s, stating, “Athletes from almost every country that we’ve seen, at different teams, participated in a corrupt culture that took over the sport of cycling for a period of time, and it’s why we’ve been pushing so hard for an independent process to get to the bottom of that culture and finally set the sport on a new path, and to give athletes a genuine choice.”
Interesting, is he saying there is period of time in which a cyclist didn’t really have a choice if they wanted to compete? If so, he is basically calling dopers in that era, victims of a corrupt system. I expect the hard core anti-dopers on this board to come on here and assail this comment.
Based on this it is hard for me to believe that he and Lance cannot get on the same page. They are both saying the same things about the sport publicly.
Unless he is saying LA started the culture (or perfected it).
Unless he is saying LA started the culture (or perfected it).
Cannot say that Lance had control of the entire peloton. Certainly not pre-1998, he wasn’t the face of the sport when he started doping. You have evidence within the same article that proves someone from US Postal doped long before joining Postal.
Tygart used broad strokes to describe the systemic doping that existed in cycling in the 1990s and 2000s, stating, “Athletes from almost every country that we’ve seen, at different teams, participated in a corrupt culture that took over the sport of cycling for a period of time, and it’s why we’ve been pushing so hard for an independent process to get to the bottom of that culture and finally set the sport on a new path, and to give athletes a genuine choice.”
Interesting, is he saying there is period of time in which a cyclist didn’t really have a choice if they wanted to compete? If so, he is basically calling dopers in that era, victims of a corrupt system. I expect the hard core anti-dopers on this board to come on here and assail this comment.
Based on this it is hard for me to believe that he and Lance cannot get on the same page. They are both saying the same things about the sport publicly.
Travis has made many statements that are sympathetic to the situation that riders, including lance, were in. They have supposedlly talked at least once off the record, Lance is just hoping for a better deal with WADA/UCI, but time is running out. Lance is also much more open to lawsuits than other riders that have testified.
Tygart used broad strokes to describe the systemic doping that existed in cycling in the 1990s and 2000s, stating, “Athletes from almost every country that we’ve seen, at different teams, participated in a corrupt culture that took over the sport of cycling for a period of time, and it’s why we’ve been pushing so hard for an independent process to get to the bottom of that culture and finally set the sport on a new path, and to give athletes a genuine choice.”
Interesting, is he saying there is period of time in which a cyclist didn’t really have a choice if they wanted to compete? If so, he is basically calling dopers in that era, victims of a corrupt system. I expect the hard core anti-dopers on this board to come on here and assail this comment.
Based on this it is hard for me to believe that he and Lance cannot get on the same page. They are both saying the same things about the sport publicly.
It always makes me laugh when I hear people defend them by saying they had no choice. Sure they do, get another job. It is a JOB after all. If you don’t like your current job, get a new one. If you aren’t qualified to do anything, get better qualifications.
There is always a choice.
I presume you are talking to Tygart and not me, since I didn’t make the statement.
Travis has made many statements that are sympathetic to the situation that riders, including lance, were in. They have supposedlly talked at least once off the record, Lance is just hoping for a better deal with WADA/UCI, but time is running out. Lance is also much more open to lawsuits than other riders that have testified.
I believe only USADA can give Lance that deal, and Tygart has said the door is now officially closed.
I don’t recally Tygart saying as much about Lance. He appears to have held him out as the devil in the sport as the mastermind of all things doping. I may have missed however it seems had Tygart taken a softer stance publicly he may have gotten more cooperation. Same can be said of Lance of course.
Agree Lance is going to protect the family fortune or at least enough of it so his kids don’t have to suffer for his sins from a financial perspective. His formal cooperation would likely come after his settlements/suits are finished.
Travis has made many statements that are sympathetic to the situation that riders, including lance, were in. They have supposedlly talked at least once off the record, Lance is just hoping for a better deal with WADA/UCI, but time is running out. Lance is also much more open to lawsuits than other riders that have testified.
I believe only USADA can give Lance that deal, and Tygart has said the door is now officially closed.
I do not know the if only USADA can make give Lance a deal, I would think that WADA since USADA is a member would have some say. Even then, I think a WADA/UCI deal could lead to USADA, in terms of Lance getting what he wants from WADA/UCI deal, but needs to talk to USADA first or something.
Tygart did say that door was closed something like six months ago, but in the article he states that they were talking even a few weeks ago. Tygart was clearly giving a deadline as a negotiation tactic. Tygart is not out to get Lance, he wants to help clean athletes compete. If Lance has any info that Tygart believes could help further that cause, he will be willing to give Lance some sort of deal. I believe that Tygart knows what Lance has and does think it is valuable to his mission, but the value of that information may go down as more people testify.