Have any of you using this combo found a fix for this…
Usually once per ride or so… the power on the KICKR in ERG mode using TR shoots up for a few seconds. It then settles back down… but those few seconds can be super annoying especially if you are aren’t ready for it. Feels like you are riding into a wall… and can hurt your knees.
I Emailed back and forth with the TR people… and they say it is on the KICKR side not theirs.
I have 3 other friends who use the KICKR and TR as well… 2 using BT and 2 using ANT+… we all have the spikes.
Here is an example… see the end of the second interval… spiked to nearly 400W during a 15 minute interval at 218W… totally caught me off guard. I had my eyes down at the time.
I’ve never seen it, I’m using a Kickr with TrainerRoad via ANT+ and riding in erg mode, I’ve ridden maybe 30 rides so far without any unintentional spikes whatsoever. I do get power drops but that has more to do with placement of my laptop.
I get this as well - maybe once every 3-4 rides. Very similar spike - just for a second or two it goes up a couple hundred watts and then back to normal. I assumed it was some interference in the signal but maybe it’s a Wahoo firmware issue (potentially handling signal drops, etc.).
I’ve never seen it, I’m using a Kickr with TrainerRoad via ANT+ and riding in erg mode, I’ve ridden maybe 30 rides so far without any unintentional spikes whatsoever. I do get power drops but that has more to do with placement of my laptop.
I’ve got about 6 rides on the Kickr so far and no spikes or dropouts.
My challenge is aligning power levels with my Quarq. First few rides were all over the place but its settled to the Quarq reading about 10w higher at 250w although its about the same at 100w, once I calibrate the Quarg several times over the first 20 mins or so. The Quarq is still so variable with power numbers jumping around all over the place while the Kickr is a rock solid number never changing by more than +/- 1w in ERG mode.
I’ve got about 6 rides on the Kickr so far and no spikes or dropouts.
My challenge is aligning power levels with my Quarq. First few rides were all over the place but its settled to the Quarq reading about 10w higher at 250w although its about the same at 100w, once I calibrate the Quarg several times over the first 20 mins or so. The Quarq is still so variable with power numbers jumping around all over the place while the Kickr is a rock solid number never changing by more than +/- 1w in ERG mode.
Makes me wonder if the KICKR is really that precise or accurate; I would more likely believe the Quarq than the Kickr power.
I suspect it is simply different methods of measuring power. Strain gauges in cranks vs however the Kickr does it. I had a PT hub before and it was far more steady than the Quarq.
I train in a very cold garage so once I’ve warmed everything up for about 20 mins it settles down. The offset of the Quarq changes 10-15 points through the warm up as the ambient temp is about 3-5 degrees ao it certainly physically warms up when I’m training. The temp measure on the Kickr can change 20 degrees across the hour!
I agree but I have found that when both are calibrated and warmed up and stable, the two are within 2-3%. The spike is certainly a Wahoo thing and I suspect it is a feedback response to a low power measurement or a dropped power reading that settles down after it gets the power readings again, but I can’t prove that.
I suspect it is simply different methods of measuring power. Strain gauges in cranks vs however the Kickr does it. I had a PT hub before and it was far more steady than the Quarq.
I train in a very cold garage so once I’ve warmed everything up for about 20 mins it settles down. The offset of the Quarq changes 10-15 points through the warm up as the ambient temp is about 3-5 degrees ao it certainly physically warms up when I’m training. The temp measure on the Kickr can change 20 degrees across the hour!
Does the KICKR actually have a strain gauge in it? I was wondering if it was just ANT transmitting the programmed power it’s supposed to put out, but not actually measuring real power. Seems like such a flat power profile - I know with my powermeter, even with 3sec smoothing, there’s no way it would ever look that smooth.
It certainly measures power - just switch to Level mode and watch the power number on the Wahoo app or TR for example.
I dont see any surprise that the power number is flat when in ERG mode as thats exactly what its designed to do - keep the power constant at the programmed level.
This happens to me on every ride. The power spikes and drop outs. I did a 2 hour ride today and had no less than 30 power drops on TR and a couple spikes. It is effing annoying.
I run TR through a dedicated desktop. I also run the wahoo fitness app as well on my iPad to compare the two. The funny thing is the wahoo app never shows the spike or drop in power which leads me to believe the drops/spikes are coming from the TR side.
This happens to me on every ride. The power spikes and drop outs. I did a 2 hour ride today and had no less than 30 power drops on TR and a couple spikes. It is effing annoying.
I run TR through a dedicated desktop. I also run the wahoo fitness app as well on my iPad to compare the two. The funny thing is the wahoo app never shows the spike or drop in power which leads me to believe the drops/spikes are coming from the TR side.
send it back and get a new one. Sounds like a warrantee issue if its not fixed with firmware and hit or miss whether or not a particular Kickr is going to produce them.
Nate…any further updates on this issue? I have not seen any KICKR firmware updates… and still happening at least once per ride. Twice on tonight’s ride.
Nate…any further updates on this issue? I have not seen any KICKR firmware updates… and still happening at least once per ride. Twice on tonight’s ride.
Kind of makes me want to cancel my order. Got one on backorder. You think it’s still worth it with this issue?
Nate…any further updates on this issue? I have not seen any KICKR firmware updates… and still happening at least once per ride. Twice on tonight’s ride.
Kind of makes me want to cancel my order. Got one on backorder. You think it’s still worth it with this issue?
