The Return to Kona ... It's Complicated. The Slowtwitch Podcast

Originally published at: The Return to Kona … It’s Complicated. The Slowtwitch Podcast - Slowtwitch News

Former IRONMAN CEO Andrew Messick celebrates with an athlete just before the start of the 2022 race in Kona. Photo: Kevin Mackinnon

The Slowtwitch Podcast is back! And there’s nothing like getting the 2025 season off and rolling with a spirited discussion. This week we cover the big news that the IRONMAN World Championship will be returning as a one-day event on the Big Island starting in 2026. Slowtwitch’s Eric Wynn and Kevin Mackinnon were joined by pro triathlete Tamara Jewett and Pro Tri News’ Kyle Glass for this weekend’s podcast, which you can listen to here.

Jewett’s IRONMAN debut

We kicked things off with a discussion about Jewett’s recent full-distance debut, where she finished sixth and earned herself a spot for the IRONMAN World Championship in Kona this October. After a disappointing swim, Jewett felt that the bike went reasonably well. Despite running the day’s second fastest pro women’s marathon split (2:57:02), Jewett felt that she was a bit conservative on the run and is looking forward to pushing the pace a bit earlier in her next full-distance race in Lake Placid in July. That said, the former running star was overall very pleased with the result and the Kona qualification.

Kona Qualifying

We’ve done extensive reporting on the news that the IRONMAN World Championship would be returning to Kona, starting with the story below.

IRONMAN Returns Men’s and Women’s World Championship to Kona

There’s little argument from athletes and all four of our podcast participants that the move makes sense and is what IRONMAN athletes want. The discussion in the podcast on this topic centered on the qualifying process and the breakdown of men and women competing. IRONMAN has announced that the qualification for Kona will be “mostly proportionate.” Slots would be allotted based on the number of people in each age category, but there would be a higher proportion of women competing in Kona through “programmatic initiatives” including the Legacy and Women For Tri programs. What that means is that while women make up 18% of the typical IRONMAN field, it is likely that at least 30% of the field would be women.

Not Your Typical World Championship

There’s often a false-equivalency when it comes to talking about the IRONMAN World Championship. Critics of IRONMAN’s proposed proportional qualifying process often say that other sports don’t follow that process. For me it’s important to remember that ours is not like other sports. (Yes, there was a triathlon in San Diego in 1974, but what put the sport on the map was IRONMAN. The one race eventually grew into a large endurance event company, which dominates much of the sport as we know it.) World Athletics doesn’t put on a world championship event for age group athletes. Neither does the UCI. They’re focussed on elite or pro athletes. World Triathlon puts on a number of world championship events for age groupers (including a long-distance world championship), and there’s equal opportunity for men and women to qualify there, but those world championship races aren’t nearly as popular, or renowned, as the race in Kona.

Some Options?

During our pre-podcast discussions with Jewett, I had floated a suggestion – what if the top three men and women in each age group earned qualifying slots for Kona? Kyle Glass suggested exactly the same concept. It’s an idea we explore during the podcast. Would such an approach fill the race? How is that going to sit with men who might find themselves in an age category with 140 competitors in it (IRONMAN Texas, men’s 35-39 – there were four less in men’s 40-44) when the largest women’s category at the same race (40-44) had 77. And that’s at an event in North America, where there are typically a higher number of women’s competitors.

Proportionality, Field Strength and Being “Fair”

Jewett points out that critics of the proportionality argument will say that it doesn’t matter how many people are in an age group – the question is whether or not the people who should be getting to the world championship are qualifying. There’s data, Jewett says, that shows that when you look at how close the top athletes are in various age categories, the differences aren’t that great. She also notes that there is something to be learned from other sports, which have used various measures to improve women’s participation.

Jumping the Gun

Did IRONMAN try to create a women’s only world championship too soon? That’s what Wynn suspects, pointing out that ever since IRONMAN has hosted a women’s only race-day for the full-distance world championship, the numbers have been decreasing. In 2022 there were 1,324 women who raced on the Thursday (along with roughly 1,000 men) in a field that included a number of deferrals from previous years. There were roughly 2,000 women in Kona in 2023, thanks to generous qualifying opportunities. Last year, in Nice, there were roughly 1,250 women who started.

All of this is covered in much more detail, of course, in the podcast, but what became abundantly clear is that there’s lots more to follow up on, too, including a deeper dive into how we can get more women taking part at IRONMAN races. Stay tuned for more from Slowtwitch on this and many other topics.

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off course world athletics and uci put on world champs for age grouper.

Yes, UCI age group world championships are gender-balanced. The UCI has a policy of gender balance across all cycling disciplines, and this includes the age group world championships, according to the UCI. Men and women compete in the same age categories, and there are separate results and podiums for each gender.

World Athletics aims for gender balance in all aspects of the sport, including leadership, judging, and coaching at various levels, including the Age Group World Championships

Thanks for this, PK. I could only find info on the UCI Gran Fondo worlds for age groupers. The UCI worlds that I have attended for track and road have been for elites, U23 and juniors, which is what I was differentiating from IRONMAN, which has a world champs that includes both pros and age groupers on the same day. Similarly, I am familiar with the World Masters Championship and am differentiating that from the World Championships that is run with elites only.

If you want anyone to listen to this it’s gotta live on the places where people actually listen to podcasts.

and I do agree the world masters are a different location

but at the same time since we got rid of the mass start its not just one race in triathlon either
anyway my point was more in swim bike run we have equal slots so in world tri and only ironman does not ( as a matter of fact not saying that is a good or bad thing ) but I would disagree that ironman is different ironman just took another way. but the original ironman Hawaii was also equally open for both sexes for many years

We are plugging those in today.

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I “think” it’s ST+ only

No it’s not anyone can listen to it

Hmmmm, something changed in the last hour.

I guess I was too anxious to hear it LOL

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What is rarely talked about but is important: 1) IRONMAN is a private for profit Endurance Sports Event Production Company - they are NOT a sports governing body. It still amazes me that within the world of Triathlon the numbers of people that DON’T understand this. If they were a true World Governing Body in Sport - World Triathlon, World Athletics, FINA, UCI etc - they would HAVE TO do things in an equitable manner. 2) In Triathlon generally there is a blurring of the line of what is truly Professional/Elite and what is generally Age-Group/Masters Competition. Not between what is a Pro/Elite and an Age-Grouper/Masters - but between the Championships for the two. Again - IRONMAN encourages some of this confusion as they host THEIR self declared “world championships” for both Pro/Elite in concert with the Age-Group/Masters. In many other sports under the Governance of a World Governing body, these are completely separate Competitions. Even within Countries - for say Cycling - there is a Pro/Elite National Championships, and there is a physically separate National Championships for Masters aged Cyclists’. The UCI does this at the World Championships as well. But again, IM is a private business entity and can do as they like. I’m not saying they are right, here or taking a side, just pointing out some differences and realities that almost NEVER are brought up, and are important in understanding the whole of the situation!

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Let us know what you think :muscle:t2:

YES!
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I bring this up ALL the time, Steve, to no avail.

I liked the format of guests

The topic of fairness of ag slots….i’ll leave that to the 6 forum threads debating it

Btw, this is why I thought it was st+, see the bottom

The reason why so many people get it mixed up is because IM itself acts as a psuedo sport governing body when it needs to because it’s a private for profit business…IT CAN. Because it has the ability to do whatever it wants it can then actually blur the lines of an self appointed governing body. So I don’t think it’s that people are confused, I think it’s that IM gets to play the best of both sides. They get to claim they are a for profit business, so they don’t have to be tied to the rules/regs that governing bodies are, but then they get to act as a governing body when they want to make/amend rules.

They have their own rulebook that is IM logo’d out even if it’s just a copy of the governing body’s rules with their own amended additions; they have their own specific IM officials, not the governing body or federation; they are “IM officials”. So they act as their own governing body whenever they want/need too. So I think it’s a bit unfair to say your shocked people are confused on that.

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I dont think people are really confused,most slowtwitcher would know that world tri is the governing body, but they look more what is the reality .

ie when the ironman pro race official can overrule the fed referee at the race, that really counts , it does not really matter that much who is the official governing body, what matters is, who calls the ultimate shots.
so the lines are blurred