The JackMott Protocol: Need a latex tube properly installed at IM Texas

anyone at the Texas race who can do this for me?

I was there last year, and did a bunch of wrenching for the ST’ers of IMTX, but sadly I am not there this year.

Help!

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Is this just for one of your athletes or for a number of participants? If you are just looking to help an individual with this install you could reach out to the Ventum guys that are there at the expo.

one athlete

Is Jimmy at the Ventum expo?

Is this just for one of your athletes or for a number of participants? If you are just looking to help an individual with this install you could reach out to the Ventum guys that are there at the expo.

I’m not sure if Jimmy is there, but Chris Blick is on site and he’s spent a lot of time wrenching bikes!

People go to a race without knowing how to install a tube?

Do you have a link to the protocol you mention?

Did josh make a vid while he was at zipp? I remember turning to that on YouTube for a refresher when I last installed latex.

What is the protocol? In my experience, I install latex tubes like regular tubes other than I am a bit more careful not to pinch them as I do it. But all in all anyone that knows how to change a tune can change a latex tube. No magic.

Bingo!

People go to a race without knowing how to install a tube?

Do you have a link to the protocol you mention?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9W85RCHoukI

What is the protocol? In my experience, I install latex tubes like regular tubes other than I am a bit more careful not to pinch them as I do it. But all in all anyone that knows how to change a tune can change a latex tube. No magic.

I’ve always wondered why folks make a big deal about installing latex tubes. It’s no different. I do nothing different compared to installing butyl tubes.

Yup! And I reuse tubes when I wear out tires too. Honestly if you are ham fisted enough to screw up putting in a latex tube, you’re likely to do the same thing with a butyl one.

What is the protocol? In my experience, I install latex tubes like regular tubes other than I am a bit more careful not to pinch them as I do it. But all in all anyone that knows how to change a tune can change a latex tube. No magic.

I’ve always wondered why folks make a big deal about installing latex tubes. It’s no different. I do nothing different compared to installing butyl tubes.

People go to a race without knowing how to install a tube?

Do you have a link to the protocol you mention?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9W85RCHoukI
That’s a great video - so clear and that guy as a great voice.

Yup! And I reuse tubes when I wear out tires too. Honestly if you are ham fisted enough to screw up putting in a latex tube, you’re likely to do the same thing with a butyl one.

Totally disagree with that. Butyl is much less elastic and therefore much less prone to seeping under the bead. I have never had a butyl tube explode after it was mounted. When I first used latex (about 20 years ago), I had latex tubes explode a bunch of times after they were mounted and inflated. More than once, they exploded in the garage, 5 or 6 hours after I inflated them to pressure. That would never happen with a butyl tube.

Maybe the tubes have become significantly better in the last few years. I’ve been using them since I switched to clinchers about 6 years ago and have never had that happen, ever. So we agree to disagree.

Yup! And I reuse tubes when I wear out tires too. Honestly if you are ham fisted enough to screw up putting in a latex tube, you’re likely to do the same thing with a butyl one.

Totally disagree with that. Butyl is much less elastic and therefore much less prone to seeping under the bead. I have never had a butyl tube explode after it was mounted. When I first used latex (about 20 years ago), I had latex tubes explode a bunch of times after they were mounted and inflated. More than once, they exploded in the garage, 5 or 6 hours after I inflated them to pressure. That would never happen with a butyl tube.

same. I train on rough NC roads with Turbo Cottons or Supersonics w/ latex tubes with zero flats and a cycling experience that is way more enjoyable than when I used to ride on gatorskins or the like.

Maybe the tubes have become significantly better in the last few years. I’ve been using them since I switched to clinchers about 6 years ago and have never had that happen, ever. So we agree to disagree.

Yup! And I reuse tubes when I wear out tires too. Honestly if you are ham fisted enough to screw up putting in a latex tube, you’re likely to do the same thing with a butyl one.

Totally disagree with that. Butyl is much less elastic and therefore much less prone to seeping under the bead. I have never had a butyl tube explode after it was mounted. When I first used latex (about 20 years ago), I had latex tubes explode a bunch of times after they were mounted and inflated. More than once, they exploded in the garage, 5 or 6 hours after I inflated them to pressure. That would never happen with a butyl tube.

Yup! And I reuse tubes when I wear out tires too. Honestly if you are ham fisted enough to screw up putting in a latex tube, you’re likely to do the same thing with a butyl one

I think the point of the OP was to give his athlete a no brainier, minimum -risk set of instructions to install a latex tube … acknowledging that he / she knows perfectly well how to do that, but wanting them to do it as correctly as possible to minimize the chance of a pinched tube. There’s a big difference between ‘follow the protocol’ and ‘don’t be ham-handed!’

(Assuming Josh’s video was the protocol in mind. But for fun, look at many of the other YouTube videos on changing a tube on a clincher, and you’ll see that there are plenty that omit, for example, the step of partially inflating the tube after installing one bead … to minimize the chance of pinching the tube.