The guy who finished 2nd at IMCDA lifts weights, rides powercranks and XC skis all winter....Dr. Tommy is my hero

Jonny, the wife and I have told you many times now that you can talk the dog to the park just as soon as you finish my yard work. There is gas in the lawn mower so come on over. Taking Sadie along the beach this long weekend could really spice up the rest of your summer :slight_smile:

David, tell your wife I could not see much of anything at the end of the run (I was in la la land) so sorry I missed her. Whats you next IM??

Dev, I think if either of us are going to be competitive in the Apex climb it will have to include the downhill. 

To quote Scott Molina ā€œthe best workout is the one that gets you out the doorā€

Tom

Clearly you were praising Tommy for his variety and style of training because it’s a reflection of how you feel people should be training. My decision to contribute to the thread was because I’m seeing a specific trend in your posts where you also seem to take jabs at people who ā€œrace by the numbersā€ or ā€œget bogged down by specifics.ā€ I see a similar trend in Fleck’s posts. I greatly admire your passions for the sport and hate to see when someone like you feels the need to do this.

Remember (Fleck too), the terms ā€œcomplicatedā€ and ā€œsimpleā€ are relative terms. What’s complicated to you might not be complicated to the next person. Much depends on our ability to process information which is different in each and everyone of us. I try to respect people who demonstrate consistent passion and execution independent of how they choose to train and/or race.

Thanks, Chris

Chris, Fleck and I are just concerned that most people new to the sport, are getting turned away by all the complications and barriers to entry that they see :-).

**I try to respect people who demonstrate consistent passion and execution independent of how they choose to train and/or race. **


Chris,

I agree, 100%

As long as they are out there doing it, loving it, having a great time and achieveing their goals, that’s all that matters!

Hey Dev,

do you think that old school way might work for a 20-year-old ironman? I started my ironman career with a 10h25 race (with a 44K marathon) at the age of 19. I have been doing tris for 3 years having an obesity background before and have gone old school way most of the time. I have tried to work with a few coaches but none of them have been very loyal. I’ve also found that too much planning doesn’t work bc life often gets in the way (studies, work, finnish crappy weather…). So what are your thoughts because everyone around me is saying that I am just hitting my head in a wall. My goal is to be the best ironman triathlete I can and I guess I have a lot of time to progress…

Jaakko from Finland

to start training for ironman at age 19 is a recepit ofr burnout, if you really care for becoming the best ironman athlete you can be, you need a long term plan and that plan most likely have to send you to short olympic distance for many years to developpe your speed and ability in each events. And a good coach will save you time and mistake, find a coach that fit your personality. Paulo is very close to what you could call old school… we dont use any log book for complicated schedule and hr or track…we get the work done!

Why does the name jo-ann king comes to mind??
wonder what will happen with colucci…

nice to get an answer from an idol! Of course I have been doing all kinds of distances but have been focused on iron-distance. However as I only started to swim at age of 17 and totally selfcoached with collar-bone fractures on both sides I now that I would never get to the level where I could do well in Oly and shorter races. But maybe if I focused on halfs for a few years with an end of season iron-distance (fun) that would give a good base so that I could kick some asses in Kona in 2016! How’d that sound?

And by the way Jonnyo you really are one of my heroes! Especially because the (nonexistent) triathlon community in Finland is WAY too serious…

Jaakko from Finland

i know what you mean and i can relate very well as i wasnt a athlete when i started triatlon and started swimming at age 17. I was very bad buy learned a lot with short course racing and training

Half ironman is already a lot better for you, your body at 19 years old dosnt have what it take to recover and race ironman…and keep doing it for long. it s just not as strong as what it will be at 30 years old… so be patient and you never know how fast you can become with focus and hard work, never say ā€˜ā€˜I know you will neve be good at olympic distance’’ you dont know that…it s just a llong way and you need to go step by step.

i m not saying to do one ironman will be very bad for you but to focus on that distance for the years to come will do mostly the same results as many other that have tried… some early success follow by desapeering from the scene and never reaching the full potential. and the secret of succes to be good at ironman is to be consistant and stick with it for many many years to come…

and the good exemple of DR TOMMY…starting triathlon pass 30 years old and now been a world class ironman athlete at 38… and he is only getting better years after years…

good luck!

        Hi Jaakko,I'm hoping you can help me with some information.We are trying to track down Finland's Ironman Canada Champ Teemu Vesala to be part of the 25th Anniversary this year.If you could give me some idea of how to contact him that would be great.Also for all the U.S tri geeks out there could someone please tell Chuckie V to contact either the Ironman Canada office or  N.A.S.I'm not sure if he is out in the woods, hiking some isolated trail somewhere again. 

        As far as your Ironman racing goes,for what it's worth I agree with Jonnyo.Don't burn out as it seems you have huge potential for Ironman racing.It would be a shame to end your Ironman career before it begins.

Hey Nick!

Thank’s for advice!

I did a search on Teemu Vesala but found that there are 100’s in Finland. However I am 90% positive that you can reach the righ one at

teemu@ironwill.fi or +358505222664

I’m not taking any responsibility but I hope it is theright Teemu Vesala.

Jaakko from Finland

            Thanks for the info on Teemu.I hope he can make it over for IMC it would be great to see him again.He was a great guy and a humble and gracious champion that year.I did some background study on him when he turned up that year and as we were getting our stuff ready to on race morning(we were on the same bike racks) I told him that I was picking him to win.He laughed and then asked me how fast I though I would swim that year.Teemu isn't the best pro swimmer and when I said I'd hoped to do about 56 min he put his arm around me and said "great,then we swim and race together".It was my turn to laugh then and had trouble convincing him that I would not even be in the same time zone by the end of the day.I'm glad I got it right and he won.