The Gay Animal Kingdom: 450 Species Exhibiting Homosexual Behaviors

Perhaps answering some of my own questions about documented cases of animal homosexuality and whether those behaviors were of the “domination” variety or really what we would consider to be “homosexual” behavior. It seems as if “sword-fighting” (penis play), anal intercourse, genital massages, rubbing together of genetials, oral sex, etc are the criteria.

The Gay Animal Kingdom: The Effeminate Sheep & Other Problems with Darwinian Sexual Selection

www.seedmagazine.com/?p=article&n=above&id=130

About the authorJoan Roughgarden, a professor of biology at Stanford University, wants to change that perception. After cataloging the wealth of homosexual behavior in the animal kingdom two years ago in her controversial book Evolution’s Rainbow—and weathering critiques that, she says, stemmed largely from her being transgendered—Roughgarden has set about replacing Darwinian sexual selection with a new explanation of sex.

My Comments While the author’s situation doesn’t cause me to ignore the information the present, his/her agenda does raise some flags. But the information is either backed up by scientific research or it isn’t. I admit, no one else without an agenda is going to go to all the trouble for this type of research . It is likely to point out that she is not being critiqued for stating that homosexuality is common in the animal kingdon, but for her explanations of how it challenges traditional views within Darwin’s natural Selection.

I have also not read up on the criticisms of his/her work that are discussed in the article

Selections from the article

"Male big horn sheep live in what are often called “homosexual societies.” They bond through genital licking and anal intercourse, which often ends in ejaculation. If a male sheep chooses to not have gay sex, it becomes a social outcast. Ironically, scientists call such straight-laced males “effeminate.”

“Giraffes have all-male orgies. So do bottlenose dolphins, killer whales, gray whales, and West Indian manatees. Japanese macaques, on the other hand, are ardent lesbians; the females enthusiastically mount each other. Bonobos, one of our closest primate relatives, are similar, except that their lesbian sexual encounters occur every two hours. Male bonobos engage in “penis fencing,” which leads, surprisingly enough, to ejaculation. They also give each other genital massages.”

"According to Roughgarden, classic sexual selection can’t account for these strange carnal habits. After all, Darwin imagined sex as a relatively straightforward transaction. Males compete for females. Evolutionary success is defined by the quantity of offspring. Thus, any distractions from the business of making babies—distractions like homosexuality, masturbation, etc.—are precious wastes of fluids. You’d think by now, several hundred million years after sex began, nature would have done away with such inefficiencies, and males and females would only act to maximize rates of sexual reproduction.

But the opposite has happened. Instead of copulation becoming more functional and straightforward, it has only gotten weirder as species have evolved—more sodomy and other frivolous pleasures that are useless for propagating the species. The more socially complex the animal, the more sexual “deviance” it exhibits. Look at primates: Compared to our closest relatives, contemporary, Westernized Homo sapiens are the staid ones."

"Despite this new evidence, sexual selection theory is still stuck in the 19th century. The Victorian peacock remains the standard bearer. But as far as Roughgarden is concerned, that’s bad science: “The time has come to declare that sexual theory is indeed false and to stop shoe-horning one exception after another into a sexual selection framework…To do otherwise suggests that sexual selection theory is unfalsifiable, not subject to refutation.”

“But I quickly realized that most scientists are pretty dismissive about same-sex sexuality in vertebrates. They think these animals are just having fun or practicing. As long as scientists clung to this old dogma, homosexuality would always be this funny anomaly you didn’t have to account for.”

"But Roughgarden believes that biologists have it backwards. Given the pervasive presence of homosexuality throughout the animal kingdom, same-sex partnering must be an adaptive trait that’s been carefully preserved by natural selection. As Roughgarden points out, “a ‘common genetic disease’ is a contradiction in terms, and homosexuality is three to four orders of magnitude more common than true genetic diseases such as Huntington’s disease.”

So how might homosexuality be good for us? Any concept of sexual selection that emphasizes the selfish propagation of genes and sperm won’t be able to account for the abundance of non-heterosexual sex. All those gay penguins and persons will remain inexplicable. However, if one looks at homosexuality from the perspective of a community, one can begin to see why nature might foster a variety of sexual interactions."

"Japanese macaques, an old world primate, illustrate this principle perfectly. Macaque society revolves around females, who form intricate dominance hierarchies within a given group. Males are transient. To help maintain the necessary social networks, female macaques engage in rampant lesbianism. These friendly copulations, which can last up to four days, form the bedrock of macaque society, preventing unnecessary violence and aggression. Females that sleep together will even defend each other from the unwanted advances of male macaques. In fact, behavioral scientist Paul Vasey has found that females will choose to mate with another female, as opposed to a horny male, 92.5% of the time. While this lesbianism probably decreases reproductive success for macaques in the short term, in the long run it is clearly beneficial for the species, since it fosters social stability. “Same-sex sexuality is just another way of maintaining physical intimacy,” Roughgarden says. “It’s like grooming, except we have lots of pleasure neurons in our genitals. When animals exhibit homosexual behavior, they are just using their genitals for a socially significant purpose.”

“Consider the Eurasian oystercatcher, a shore bird that enjoys feasting on shellfish. A consistent minority of oystercatcher families are polygynous, in which a lucky male mates with two different females simultaneously. These threesomes come in two different flavors: aggressive and cooperative. In an aggressive threesome, the females are at war; they attack each other frequently, and try to disrupt the egg-laying process of their fellow spouse. So far, so Darwinian: Life is nasty, brutish and short. However, the cooperative threesome is everything Darwin didn’t expect. These females share a nest, mate with each other several times a day, and preen their feathers together. It’s domestic bliss.”

"Of course, most humans don’t see sex as a way of maintaining the social contract. Our lust doesn’t seem logical, especially when that logic involves the abstruse calculations of game theory. Furthermore, it’s strange for most people to think of themselves as naturally bisexual. Being gay or straight seems to be an intrinsic and implacable part of our identity. Roughgarden disagrees. “In our culture, we assume that there is a straight-gay binary, and that you are either one or the other. But if you look at vertebrates, that just isn’t the case. You will almost never find animals or primates that are exclusively gay. Other human cultures show the same thing.” Since Roughgarden believes that the hetero/homo distinction is a purely cultural creation, and not a fact of biology, she thinks it is only a matter of time before we return to the standard primate model. “I’m convinced that in 50 years, the gay-straight dichotomy will dissolve. I think it just takes too much social energy to preserve. All this campy, flamboyant behavior: It’s just such hard work.”

“Despite Roughgarden’s long list of peer-reviewed articles in prestigious journals, most evolutionary biologists remain skeptical of her conclusions. For one thing, it’s tough to measure the benefits of diversity—or lesbian pair bonding. It’s even harder to imagine how traits that are good for the group get passed on by individuals. (As a result, group selection has largely been replaced by kin selection.) In the absence of anything conclusive, most scientists stick with Darwin and Dawkins .”

"Other biologists think Roughgarden is exaggerating the importance of homosexuality. Invertebrate zoologist Stephen Shuster told Nature that Roughgarden “throws out a very healthy baby with some slightly soiled bathwater.” And biologist Alison Jolly, in an otherwise positive review of Evolution’s Rainbow for Science, conceded that Roughgarden ultimately fails in her ambition to “revolutionize current biological theories of sexual selection.” As far as these mainstream biologists are concerned, Roughgarden’s gay primates and transgendered fish are simply interesting sexual deviants, statistical outliers in a world that contains plenty of peacocks. As Paul Z. Myers, a biologist at the University of Minnesota, put it, “I think much of what Roughgarden says is very interesting. But I think she discounts many of the modifications that have been made to sexual selection since Darwin originally proposed it. So in that sense, her Darwin is a straw man. You don’t have to dismiss the modern version of sexual selection in order to explain social bonding or homosexuality.”

Roughgarden remains defiant. “I think many scientists discount me because of who I am. They assume that I can’t be objective, that I’ve got some bias or hidden LGBT agenda. But I’m just trying to understand the data. At this point, we have thousands of species that deviate from the standard account of Darwinian sexual selection. So we get all these special case exemptions, and we end up downplaying whatever facts don’t fit. The theory is becoming Ptolemaic. It clearly has the trajectory of a hypothesis in trouble.”

My comments I find it somewhat interesting that the scientists don’t seem to disputing all of the homosexual behavior in nature, only challenging her work in regards to how it poses problems for Darwin’s natural/sexual selection.

I tried to link to the page that lists 450 animals that exhibit sexual behaviors, but you need to be a subscriber to the magazine to view . Same to say many of our “favorite animals” our on there. Surprisingly, of the Big cat family, only cheetehs are on the list.

That is very interesting! Thanks for sharing.

I find it somewhat interesting that the scientists don’t seem to disputing all of the homosexual behavior in nature, only challenging her work in regards to how it poses problems for Darwin’s natural/sexual selection.

That’s funny… When I read it I thought that it posed much more a problem for Intelligent Design. Why do you think God created homosexual behavior in animals?

Well it’s no biggie.

If one was around animals long enough one would also notice that some animals have the habit of trying to screw other species different from their own. Ever had a dog try to mount your leg? (If the owner is not around or the owner is not a friend I know, said dog will be in for unppleasant surprise in the form of a good swift kick.) We don’t need extensive scientific study to observe that. That’s not an excuse for us to go around screwing apes and the such and citing it happens in the animal kingdom as well.

Lot’s of odd things happen in nature such as the birth of hermaphrodites having a mixture of male and female characteristics and genitalia. If we are going to invoke God’s name into the question of why …there will never be a conclusive answer.

One thing about the natural process of nature and the interaction of our genders and sexually related attraction and related behaviours, it’s all about natures way of propogating the species ie mating and rearing of young’uns… And in this case many scientific studies bring to light such behaviour between the genders, much of which is instinct and we are not even consciously aware of, pointing to this nature’s way of ensuring the most suitable match ups for survival of the species. And in this same gender match and sex doesn’t factor into nature’s equation for the homosapien.

For those who can’t help it, fine and for those who experiment with it, it’s like a dirty mounting the leg habit that deserves a good swift kick.

That’s not an excuse for us to go around screwing apes and the such and citing it happens in the animal kingdom as well.

Certainly. I’m not sure if it is apparent or not, but that’s not why I made the post. Many animals also practice the act of cannibalism, killing other male’s children, etc. Human behavior and animal behavior should be different (IMO)

Actually I cleaned out my mailbox at school, and the magazine was in there, and I saw the title “450 gay animal species” and looked up the artcile since this is unoffically “Gay week” at the LR. :wink:

I posted it because I questioned what consititutes “homosexual behavior” in animals, because I have heard “mounting” be described as simple domination behavior … but the article described "genital massages, anal sex up to ejaculation, etc.

Just clearing up any potential confusion.

If find your final statement’s subtext (that those of undecided sexual preference deserve derision and even physical violence) offensive in the extreme.

While some ‘homosexual’ activities may exist in the animal kingdom, the arguement is irrelevant since the reality of homosexuality is not one solely made up of of simple lust or desire for dominance (though these things certainly exist, they exist equally in the heterosexual world and are related to the sex drive rather than the sexual preference). What makes homosexuality perfectly reasonable is that - like heterosexuality - at its best it combines physical desire with intense intellectual and spiritual connection in the form of ‘love’. Whether the physical manifestation of that love can produce offspring is irrelevant. (Or do you and you friends also suggest that married couples who choose to remain childless are unnatural?)

“killing other male’s children,”

Isn’t that just so …

Seen it on Animal Planet how male Lions do it when they defeat an older male Lion of a pride and take over. Also I saw one of this huge Bull Hippo who suddenly turned aggressive on a cute baby hippo chasing the baby full bore until he eventually caught it and ripped it apart so that it’s mother could come into heat and be more receptive to him.

My favourit animals are the Orca. Powerfully strong, good looking, incredibly intelligent and good family and social values. ie no ripping babies apart in the pod. I saw one footage of killer whales rip into a Great White Shark off the coast of South Africa. Suddenly the shark infested waters became devoid of sharks for several weeks.

In my biology class, we watched a DVD called “Big Cat Challenge” that compared the different big cats to try and decide which “adaptations” allowed for the specific cat to be the “victor” (natural selection) most often (since they live in the same area and eat the same prey). Leopards are just plain cool, tree-climbing spotted ninjas, they are.

The video did a good job pointing out that by killing the other male’s cubs, this ensures that the cubs of a pride are always the offspring of the strongest male.

Ironically, in humans, a greater percentage of children are killed by their biologicval fathers than are by their step-fathers. .

Powerfully strong, good looking, incredibly intelligent and good family and social values.

… and it’s interesting to watch them play “volleyball” using their tales and a seal pup. Orcas like to play with their food more than cats.

  1. “If find your final statement’s subtext (that those of undecided sexual preference deserve derision and even physical violence) offensive in the extreme.”

Try not to take it so hard, it was more metaphorical than anything else. I’m no gay basher. If anything I’ve had cause and more than sufficient capability to do so, when unwanted advances in the gym used to be too common place. But instead I took it as a joke and laughed it off. I even liked some of the sissy boys for the humour they brought. But I will never accept the non-merit of legalized gay marraige. Not in a kazillion years.

  1. “Whether the physical manifestation of that love can produce offspring is irrelevant. (Or do you and you friends also suggest that married couples who choose to remain childless are unnatural?)”

Go ahead with all the lovey dovey homosexual stuff, that’s fine. But if you don’t see any difference between homosexual and lesbian couplings versus natural heterosexual couplings as you have described here …well let’s just call it a difference of opinion and leave it at that since no one is going to be convincing anyone anytime soon.