Thanks for the great swim advice!

Can’t remember who posted the advice, but a few weeks ago someone put up an elegantly simple paragraph of swimming advice. Basically, “lead with your shoulders” if I was to paraphrase. Took this advice to heart and took almost 5 seconds of my 100 yrd time (I didn’t time myself for a 100 yrd sprint, this is average time savings on each 100 as part of 500 yrd swim).

Last year I typically swam about 9:20, for a good moderate effort doing a 500 yrd swim. Went to a swim clinic in the fall (only 1.5 hours long, put on by a local college swim team, included videotaping) which provided some basic instruction for the first time. Found out I was “crossing over” and that I was not getting my right elbow high out of the water (resulted in bad entry for right arm). Almost immediately upon understanding these problems I was able to start doing about 8:55 to 9:00 500 yrd swims. Two months later in an indoor triathlon, with a 15 minute timed swim, I was able to do 900 yrds (I probably would have done more if I could do flip turns).

With the “lead with your shoulders” tip, this week I did a 8:43 500 and then followed that up with an 8:24 as my warmup. I then did 10 x 100yrd on 1:45 (I think I am ready to do this on 1:40, based on not feeling too beat after this workout), which combined with the 2 500 yrd swims, was a huge breakthrough workout.

I know these are very mediocre times, but I feel amazed I was able to take nearly a minute of a 500 yrd time, in about 6 months of off-season training, that involved only one 2500 yrd swim session a week. Just getting a short coaching session and a little good advice did the trick for me, so I am sure it could do the same for others.

Can you post the link for anyone who missed it?

Shaner-

I’m not sure where that advice came from, but my guess is Doug Stern. There is a mention by Doug of leading with the shoulder in a response to a post by Pony Boy titled “shoulder soreness with increased pool time”, but I’m sure he talked about this in more detail elsewhere. Try doing a search at the bottom of this page keying in “Doug Stern” - lots of great info is there if you missed it first time around. And let me know if you find the exact reference to leading with the shoulder.

Tri_Yoda

I hope that post at the timberman forum yields better advice than it has so far. And hey - GREAT race at Timberman last year!!

I know these are very mediocre times…

yeah, but at least you aren’t at risk of stealing someone’s coveted Kona slot…

Shaner, I think this is the thread:

http://forum.slowtwitch.com/gforum.cgi?post=366043;search_string=shoulder%20doug%20stern;#366043
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Tri-Yoda,

Just think shoulder, elbow then hand on recovery.

You times will keep dropping because you are swimming in a straighter line and you will be able to apply force in the direction you are doing.

DougStern

http://forum.slowtwitch.com/gforum.cgi?post=361475;search_string=dougstern;#361475

This is the advice I was talking about. “The biggest little mistake in swimming”

Searched Doug Stern, lots of other good swim advice. Geez people should charge money for this stuff!!

Tri,

When I work I do charge. Here I like to share it. Knowledge is useless if it is not spread around.

DougStern