Texas’ Sovereignty Under 10th Amendment

http://governor.state.tx.us/news/press-release/12227/

That’s way cool that people stand up against oversized Federal Government. Nice that some people still know about the Constitution. Very nice!

http://governor.state.tx.us/news/press-release/12227/

That’s way cool that people stand up against oversized Federal Government. Nice that some people still know about the Constitution. Very nice!

Agree, this is spectacular.

Realize of course, that the entire state of TX is now on the DHS watchlist!

I agree. One positive outcome of the current economic condition and the US government response has been the increase in voices that are finally saying “enough”. I hope this is a trend that continues and results in a small, limited federal government just as the constitution stipulates.

Big O best not try to swing through these parts and stump that hope, change and believe crap! Most folks here see him as a socialist idealogue and are proud to see our governor standing up ad speaking out.

Funny how your governor found his voice on constitutional defense, limiting the growth of government, etc., only after the Republican president and former Texas governor left office. Better late than never, right?

the last guy running the show wasn’t a blanket socialist so I guess the playing field has changed some now don’t you think?

Now that’s just funny. The Republican standard-bearer who occupied the White House, who grew the national deficit to record levels, and who arguably posed a greater threat to Constitutionally ensured civil liberties than any president since Lincoln, escapes Governor Perry’s wrath for nearly a decade, because his successor is “more” “socialist?”

Yes, the playing field has certainly changed. The rival team now has possession and is driving through the red zone.

I’ll bet your big 'ol Texan heart is just swelling with pride right now.

At what point is there a schism in this country? It seems like we might be on the tipping point. Let the liberals all have their “American Dream” Country (Country A). Let the entrepreneurs live in a society powered by their collective ingenuity, imagination, and financial freedom (Country B).

How many businesses would move to Country B? How many people would actually stay in Country A? I would absolutely support such a revolution.

Funny how your governor found his voice on constitutional defense, limiting the growth of government, etc., only after the Republican president and former Texas governor left office. Better late than never, right?

Wow. I’ve got to give you credit. I wouldn’t have thought anyone could have found a way to squeeze in a “b b b b Bush” on this one! Certainly not this early in the thead. Well done!

And I’ll give you credit for seeing why it’s relevant to the discussion, your “But Bush!” smoke grenade notwithstanding. Perry took office in the same year President Bush assumed his, but only now does he jump to the defense of small government and the Constitution.

Which offends you more, David - the opposition party acting in accordance with their principles and priorities, or your own standard bearer violating those principles you hold sacred?

At what point is there a schism in this country? It seems like we might be on the tipping point. Let the liberals all have their “American Dream” Country (Country A). Let the entrepreneurs live in a society powered by their collective ingenuity, imagination, and financial freedom (Country B).

How many businesses would move to Country B? How many people would actually stay in Country A? I would absolutely support such a revolution.

As a resident of the state (New Jersey) that receives the lowest return on federal taxes paid, I’m all for those socialist states (like Alaska and Arizona) going off on their own. Us liberal states (like NJ, CT, MN, NH, IL, DE, CA and NY) that foot the bill for the rest of the states would love it. Those other states (like MS, LA, AK, WV, ND, AL, VA, KY, SD) can raise money on their own. Good luck with that.

Hmm, I see a pretty strong pattern there.

Which offends you more, David - the opposition party acting in accordance with their principles and priorities, or your own standard bearer violating those principles you hold sacred?

The latter, for sure. I like to think that I’ve always been pretty straight forward about that.

Let the liberals all have their “American Dream” Country (Country A). Let the entrepreneurs live in a society powered by their collective ingenuity, imagination, and financial freedom (Country B).

You might be surprised to learn that nearly all the countries that score highest for “economic freedom” are also socialist… by US standards.

Interesting that you’re continuing to spout that baloney, after all the evidence to the contrary that has been pointed out to you.

But, whatever…

???

Canada, Austrialia, New Zealand, Japan and all of western Europe are quite “socialist” compared to the US.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/archive/e/e2/20090215144510!GM_-_Countries_by_Economic_Freedom_Index.png

I’m getting ready to take the afternoon off (doing a long hard bike ride before my trip), so this won’t be an extended conversation. But I think you need to take another look at that list (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_economic_freedom). Of the countries you named, only Australia and New Zealand were ranked as economically freer than the US–and I certainly wouldn’t regard either of them as hotbeds of “socialism.”

The US ranked 6th in economic freedom. Canada (not that socialist either) ranked 7th. Japan ranked 19th, Germany 25th, France 64th, etc.

And once again, if socialism equated to economic freedom, then according to the list North Korea, Zimbabwe, and Cuba would be the three most “capitalist” countries in the world–lol.

That’s not “standing up” to the Federal Government. These concurrent resolutions have no power whatsoever, and are purely symbolic, sort of like Earth Hour.

If the Texas brain trust really understood the Constitution, and really wanted to stand up to the Federal Government, they’d pick a specific issue (such as the stipulations for receiving stimulus $$), craft an argument that could be plausible or at last compelling to the U.S. Supreme Court, then start working it up through the court system.

But that would take work. Much easier to put out a glorified press release and whip up cheap populist anger.

At what point is there a schism in this country? It seems like we might be on the tipping point. Let the liberals all have their “American Dream” Country (Country A). Let the entrepreneurs live in a society powered by their collective ingenuity, imagination, and financial freedom (Country B).

How many businesses would move to Country B? How many people would actually stay in Country A? I would absolutely support such a revolution.

As long as you can do it without coming back and explaining what you in a diarrhea of thousands and thousands of words in a radio address diatribe.

/shrugs.

trail, you make a valid argument. The one that will push the button for texas will be if Big O tries jacking with gun controls or federally accepting/mandating gay marriages. That would be the test issue that would bring some of this to a head in Texas and then launch a nice state’s rights test case.

Nothing new under the sun:

http://www.civil-war.net/pages/texas_declaration.asp
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